[meteorite-list] Ok, all Cali meteorite pages are up.

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Farmer
After about 18 hours of work, all pages are up and running. Tomorrow I will make corrections, and post links to all of the newspaper articles regarding the meteorite fall. There are a lot of them, but all in Spanish. I don't know why the english news never picked up on this one. Notkin? You busy

Re: [meteorite-list] Juvinas Eucrite Micrographs are posted!

2007-07-29 Thread Jeff Kuyken
Hey Tom, Spectacular as usual! Indeed... these are certainly worth checking out as are all your other images. Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Juvinas Eucrite

[meteorite-list] Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset of damage.

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Farmer
Armando, we did measure the hole/impact offsets, of 3 of the 4 house smashers (Cali #004 did not enter the home, so there was only the initial impact point). The other two were offset from ~9 cm for Cali #003 which hit the top of the refrigerator so did no travel very far after penetrating the

Re: [meteorite-list] Ok, all Cali meteorite pages are up.

2007-07-29 Thread Armando Afonso
Interesting report. Something maybe feasible could be the determination of the vector between the hole on the roof and the marks on the floor. This for each stone, and compare them with a 3d plot. Would they be paralel or radial? Would they focus? - Original Message - From: Michael

[meteorite-list] Do meteorites fall hot and cold?

2007-07-29 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - Hmmm... if the surface were heated, but the interior remained very cold, then depending on compostiion (conductivity), ablation (heat lost), size, and too many other factors for my small brain to think of right now, then perhaps that may be why some meteorites are cold to the touch

[meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread steve arnold
Hi list.I was told that a certain martian meteorite that was all the rage in tucson this year has possibly a couple of pairings.2 of them are NWA 2975 AND NWA 2786.Does anyone know this nwa number.I was told there was about a kilo of it and lots of small individuals. Steve

Re: [meteorite-list] Ancient Asteroid (Libyan Desert Glass) on NationalGeographic Channel

2007-07-29 Thread Jerry
don't forget!!! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Peter Marmet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteoritenliste Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:30 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Ancient Asteroid (Libyan Desert Glass) on NationalGeographic

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset ofdamage.

2007-07-29 Thread Chris Peterson
As I've noted often in the past, it requires very unusual conditions for a meteorite to retain any of its horizontal velocity component when it reaches the ground. The conditions of the Cali fall wouldn't seem to support this. These lightweight stones may have had a slight north to south angle

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset ofdamage.

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Farmer
I don't think so, as it should have then been seen to explode over Cali, and from what I gather, the largest explosions were at least 30 km north of the city, but I dont know. Isn't is odd though, that three of the four home smashers weighed less than 100 grams, and two of the four weighed less

Re: [meteorite-list] Amazing daylight fireball

2007-07-29 Thread Jerry
Too bad. neat photos though! Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jerry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; giovannisostero [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset ofdamage.

2007-07-29 Thread Chris Peterson
Agreed, it doesn't seem that such light stones should be able to penetrate the roofs. It would be interesting to experiment with an air cannon and figure out just what velocity is required for that kind of energy. The material evidence of the fall does suggest that the components still carried

[meteorite-list] Re-2: Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset ofdamage.

2007-07-29 Thread bernd . pauli
Chris wrote: The material evidence of the fall does suggest that the components still carried some of their original velocity, but I can't see any mechanism by which such small stones could retain that over 30 km of low altitude travel. Mike wrote: From all accounts, the body entering the

Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread Dave Carothers
Ssteve, Not possible NWA 2786 is a mesosiderite. You're confused. NWA 2986 is supposedly paired NWA 2975. See Jim Stropes fine web site to learn more. Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July

Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread Dave Carothers
This URL might help you out too. http://meteorites.wustl.edu/id/fusioncrust.htm Dave - Original Message - From: steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 12:09 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread Martin Altmann
And NWA 4766, but Steve, even don't ask... :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Carothers Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. Juli 2007 21:16 An: meteorite list; steve arnold Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show

Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread Martin Altmann
And this dream: http://www.chladnis-heirs.com/35.782g-shergottite.jpg -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Dave Carothers Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. Juli 2007 21:18 An: steve arnold; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re:

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-29 Thread AL Mitterling
Hi Alex, Elton, Sterling and all, Nininger did a number of investigations where people picked up meteorites soon after the fall. His conclusions were they were cold to the touch (a number of them frosted over) after falling. Seems however there is always an exception to the rule and this seem

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2007-07-29 Thread Notkin
Listees, Greetings All: Amazing thunderstorms, heavy rainfall and flooding here in Tucson. Not a bit like the Tucson you know and love during the Gem Show. It always seems odd to me that we get our annual rainfall in July. Just doesn't feel right for the desert to be wet in the summer.

Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offsetofdamage.

2007-07-29 Thread Chris Peterson
Yes, my thoughts are in the same general direction. I don't have any good sense of the mechanism by which energy is coupled into a falling meteorite in such a way as to actually produce an explosion capable of blowing off pieces at high speed (rather than just disrupting the object). So I'm

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite sounds like, looks like, taste like...

2007-07-29 Thread Mr EMan
Zag, the salt box. Mike's mention of slickensides and the photos of the light gray matrix, uniformly small chondrules -- describes Zag, IMHO, and may have literally shared adjacent lots on the same parent body. I'm curious what analysis will ultimately show. Elton

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-29 Thread Robert Woolard
Mike, Al, etc., With the assumed-evidence of frost forming on some freshly observed falls, and the seemingly logical assumption behind the physics of heat-transfer-rates vs the relatively short time a falling meteor travels at hyper velocity, I tend to believe that meteorites are probably cold

Re: [meteorite-list] new martian from tucson show 2007

2007-07-29 Thread Jim Strope
Steve, What you are referring to is NWA 2986. (see link) http://www.catchafallingstar.com/nwa2986/nwa2986.htm NWA 2986 and NWA 4766 are paired with NWA 2975. NWA 2975 was only ONE stone most of which went to one collector with the exception of the classification repository and a

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali meteorite sounds like, looks like, taste like...

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Farmer
This one looks quite different than Zag though, the chondrules are not even close in my opinion. They are much more prevelant in Cali. Mike --- Mr EMan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zag, the salt box. Mike's mention of slickensides and the photos of the light gray matrix, uniformly small

Re: [meteorite-list] Re-2: Cali meteorite fall trajectory and offset of damage.

2007-07-29 Thread Michael Farmer
One thing about this fall, it came over the Andes Mountains just to the north of the city, and then impacted only ~8 km from the mountains. This was ~4:30 on a very sunny Friday afternoon, so in a city of ~2.5 - 3 million people, perhaps the sky was too bright and the noise level too high to see

Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!

2007-07-29 Thread PolandMET
With the assumed-evidence of frost forming on some freshly observed falls, and the seemingly logical assumption behind the physics of heat-transfer-rates vs the relatively short time a falling meteor travels at hyper velocity, I tend to believe that meteorites are probably cold to the touch when

[meteorite-list] MORE FREEBIES

2007-07-29 Thread steve arnold
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Re: [meteorite-list] MORE FREEBIES

2007-07-29 Thread Bill
[meteorite-list] to the list,an apology 2005/07/17 Hello list I will be short.I want to apoligize to all the good people on this list for my brash email I sent this morning.There was no harm intended.It was plain stupid.I should have just kept it private.From now on,no more sales,no more

Re: [meteorite-list] MORE FREEBIES

2007-07-29 Thread Bill
From now any sales,ebay,givaways, or non-meteorite items will strictly be done on another list that was meant to be for that reason,I will post to that.And here is promise I will keep and you can truly count on,if I do post something like I just stated, I will unsubscribe from this list