Apparently Director Nuñez del Prado does not believe
in PUMPS. It would seem that, in Peru, geologists are
not familiar with digging holes. (How do they mine there
without digging holes?) They will "retrieve the meteorite"
without any "attempt to extract the water from the crater."
They will use sc
Chris --
The seismic measurement is of a 20-21 GJ event.
The Russian formulas for scaling crater energy,
developed from their work with the various sizes of
the Sikhote-Alin craters, would make it about 18 GJ.
The ground at Carancas is not merely wet soil, it is
wet rocky soil, a different kettl
http://www.livinginperu.com/news-4827-environmentnature-perus-geological-institute-crater-where-meteorite-landed-is-disappear-2-months
(LIP-ir) -- Peru's Geological, Mining and Metallurgical Institute (INGEMMET)
announced today that the crater left by the meteorite that landed in a small
town in
The name of the village closest to the
crater site is CARANCAS, not Carnacas.
Under the naming convention, the nearest
named human settlement would end up
as the name of the meteorite when all the
dust settles, no?
Let's all practice: CA - RAN - CAS.
Sterling K. Webb
it is a meteorite deduce put private emails text in pubblic?
Matteo
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Da : Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Oggetto : [meteorite-list] More threats from Mr Gregory.
Data : Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:10:12 -0700 (PDT)
> This is what I g
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 21:33:37 -0700, you wrote:
>Perhaps I am dumber than a bag of hammers, but
>I am confused Are Carnacas and Titicaca two separate falls
>Or one in the same? Is anyone else confused on this issue?
>Michael
>
Apparently, Carnacas is the name of the town or something.
Perhaps I am dumber than a bag of hammers, but
I am confused Are Carnacas and Titicaca two separate falls
Or one in the same? Is anyone else confused on this issue?
Michael
on 10/2/07 5:59 PM, Michael Farmer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Chris, it is a hell of a crater, at least 13 me
3rd post...1st and 2nd didnt seem to go...sorry if it gets on the list
more than once.
This looks like the real thing when compared to others I have seen or
heard discribed.
Any comments about the features welcome.
As Mike Farmer said it seems difficult to work out which is crust and
which
Hi Michael-
As a physicist (and not on the scene), my instinct is simply to perform
some simple calculations to get some sense of what the various
possibilities are.
Assuming wet soil, which seems like what the crater was formed in, it
requires about 5 GJ (~1 ton TNT) to produce a crater tha
2nd post...1st didnt seem to go...sorry if it gets on the list twice.
This looks like the real thing when compared to others I have seen or
heard discribed.
Any comments about the features welcome.
As Mike Farmer said it seems difficult to work out which is crust and
which might be shock vei
This looks like the real thing when compared to others I have seen or
heard discribed.
Any comments about the features welcome.
As Mike Farmer said it seems difficult to work out which is crust and
which might be shock veins exposed...extraordinary I think.
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:37:23 -0400, you wrote:
>what mike farmer has been up to the last few months is nothing short
>of extraordinary.
>
>what is happening before each of us right now is the meteorite lore
>of the future.
>
>as everyone who even glances at this list knows, i'm not blowing
This week I added 3 new spheres to my collection and I plan to do a huge web
site update Friday.
But I had to show this beauty off now.
One failed attempt and a lot of work went into this sphere and the whole
process was quite stressful but the end result made it all worth while.
It's 50mm i
you know
what mike farmer has been up to the last few months is nothing short
of extraordinary.
what is happening before each of us right now is the meteorite lore
of the future.
as everyone who even glances at this list knows, i'm not blowing
smoke (trails) here. kudos must a
Hi, List,
Michael Farmer wrote (earlier):
> It MUST be more than 3 or 4 tons, the crater is huge,
> much larger than Jilin main mass crater, there were
> pieces of sod (maybe 40 kilograms chunks of hard soil)
> thrown more than 100 meters in every direction... It is
> simple physics to know that t
This is what I get from Mr Gregory, he now insults me
and my wife, and my lack of children. This is one
standup type of guy!
Sad, what a sad comentary on the greed of someone who
thinks he owns the place.
--- Randall Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're still here! When are you going to b
Chris, it is a hell of a crater, at least 13 meters in
diameter, more than one meter of uplift, looks
identical to Meteor Crater to me, on a much smaller
scale.
There in fact does seem to be shocked material at the
crater, I found only inside and just outside the
crater, large pieces of compacted
What remains to be determined is if this is actually a crater, or just a
big splash. In the first case, some shocked material should show up, and
I think it's likely that nothing is left in the bottom. If there really
is a big meteorite at the bottom, then this probably isn't a crater in
the us
On Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:54:57 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Is it indeed possible that a mass of say 3-7 tons
>could cause such intense heat on impact? We think that
>the compression of the soil, in an instant to many
>meteors deep could also cause intense heating.
>Every person we interviewed decribed
http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/03/2049439.htm
Meteor lights up Melbourne sky
By Jan Deane
Australian Broadcasting Corporation
October 2, 2007
The Astronomical Society of Victoria says a meteor was the source of
an array of coloured lights seen in skies across the state last night.
The
I was lucky enough to learn that teenager was able to
take a photo of the Carancas meteorite smoketrail, and
I purchased the right to copy and use that photo.
I will post this when I get home, and it belongs to
me, please do not use it without my permission. I gave
him enough to buy a new camera an
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Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 4:35 PM
To: 'michael cottingham'
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It MUST be more than 3 or 4 tons, the crater is huge,
much larger than Jilin main mass crater, there were
pieces of sod (maybe 40 kilograms chunks of hard soil)
thrown more than 100 meters in every direction. One
piece hit the landowners home and damaged the roof.
It is simple physics to know that
It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust,
but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting
meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about
getting crater material, it has been more than two
weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in
for fun! The meteorite is very fragile
Hello Mike, Matteo and List,
"Peru works differently than the rest of the world"
What a pity, what a pity!
"The rest of the meteorite is 4 or 5 meters under sewage water"
Yes, no chance under such circumstances. The Kirin (Jilin) meteorite
main mass was found at a depth of almost six meters and
Matteo, did you not see the huge crater filled with
several meters of water? The rest of the meteorite is
4 or 5 meters under sewage water. Good luck getting
some of that. I had a meeting with the townspeople and
mayor of Desaguadero ( and I have video to prove it
all) and we pumped out the water
Dear friends,
more about the Peru impact, including a figure showing the
location of the impact and presumed trajectory of the meteorite
can be found in:
Mysteries remain over Peru meteorite impact
by Jeff Hecht New Scientist, September 28, 2007
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/1
I now have this glorious barred chondrule set as my desktop wallpaper. Thank
you for making this possible.
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only 20-30 kg? and where is go the others? A similar crater
minimum is a mass type Jilin
Matteo
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phinally, photos
Data : Tue, 2 Oc
It is a real meteorite, the black is not fusion crust,
but rather exposed shock veins. Very interesting
meteorite, and not much will be found. FORGET about
getting crater material, it has been more than two
weeks in horrible water that people are urinating in
for fun! The meteorite is very fragile,
Hi everyone, I am writing from an undisclosed
location, but will be home tomorrow night from Peru.
Robert Ward, Moritz Karl, and myself have been in
Carancas for the last 4 days. When I say craphole,
Desaguadero is the definition that would come up
first! More on that later, we had to get creative
For those of you who don't know what you're looking at in this
picture, here is a little explanation.
All of the colored bars and the circular rim in this picture are the
mineral olivine. The black stuff in between the bars is either
feldspathic glass (possible if this is a highly unequilibra
Hi Walter, Bernd, John, Anne,
As John mentioned the Chondrule was very big, so the chance to get a small
inaccuracy is very big, dont know how much magnification this picture was
taken and what magnification is common.
But the bares in the Chondrule where visible with naked eye , the moment
(Posted for Gregory Randall)
Mike or Ken, Please. one last post.
List members,
Feeling much better after 3 hours sleep. Talking with my wife this
morning she feels that we should go to Desag. She's looking for tickets
as I'm composing. She talked with a policeman at Desag and he invited us
d
Walter,
Thank you for the question. You are familiar with a lot of this but let me
go over it once quickly.
A thin section is a slice of rock attached to a glass slide. The sample is
ground and polished flat and to a uniform thickness. The standard thickness
is 0.03mm. Various optical and oth
Hello again,
I just got mail from Marc Fries. Thank you, Marc! Very much
appreciated. Now, Marc prefers option #3 and so he writes:
"I was thinking option 3), myself. It only takes a thickness variation
on the order of 100 nanometers or so to get that color gradient, and
if it were chemical I'd
In a message dated 10/2/2007 9:47:42 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
3) the thin section does not have a uniform thickness.
(1) and (3) are improbable as both bars and rim seem to be oriented
identically (north - south in the picture), so my guess is that the color
gra
Walter wrote: "Thanks Michael - thank you Andi and John"
Yes, thanks a lot ... that's a beautiful barred olivine chondrule!
"Okay, I admit I know nothing about thin sections. Someone educate me."
Woe, it's me, shame and scandal in the family ... :-))
"What are the vertical pieces that sort of
http://dawn.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/journal_9_30_07.asp
Dawn Journal
Dr. Marc Rayman
September 30, 2007
Dear Dawnitsways,
The Dawn project welcomes you to deep space! Dawn is operating smoothly
on the fourth day of its 8-year adventure. Like new parents, its
extremely proud and greatly sleep-depri
Thanks Michael,
And thank-you Andi and John.
Okay, I admit I know nothing about thin sections. Someone educate me.
What are the vertical pieces that sort of remind me of mitochondria in a
cell?
What does the horizontal color gradient indicate?
-Walter Branch
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http://www.spacerocksinc.com/October_2_2007.html
Michael Johnson
www.spacerocksinc.com
www.sikhote-alin.org
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Buenes noches mi amigos y amigas:
At this moment, I wonder if we aren't witnessing events surrounding
the 21st century's first historic meteorite. There are elements of
this fall common with meteorites seen to fall in the 18th century.
- A fireball was seen with explosions
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