Hi Sterling, my brief comments are inserted in your text in all lower case,
Hola, Doug,
I think the variety of reports I've already posted
and then referred to several times, are all that I can
say to your dislike for my reconstruction of the
event. I confess to being somewhat mystified by
y
Hi Sterling, my brief comments are inserted in your text in all lower case,
Hola, Doug,
I think the variety of reports I've already posted
and then referred to several times, are all that I can
say to your dislike for my reconstruction of the
event. I confess to being somewhat mystified by
y
True, Martin:
pigs are still pigs in Peru, and Randall and Mike both
seem to be incapable of settling conflicts without
resorting to tattletale cop-calling. Of course, people
resorting to the illegitimate authority of police
often need to be policed (as in Mike's alleged
disturbances of cultural s
Thaddeus,
"Dollars in their thongs..."
Is that a scholarly reference?
Literary, perhaps?
Do you have Polaroids?
Sterling K. Webb
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Hi Martin! Wrong country !
You must mean Harry Steele vs. Dr. Stanley Moorehead? I highly recommend
that 1954 movie to those who have somehow missed it !
Have a really Monze Day!,
Doug
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Hi,
> "there is no reliable basis to discount the probability
of bona fide fragments in the crater," Yes! Mike said the
upper dirt walls of the crater had many fragments
embedded in them and the locals picked them all
out of the dirt (before he could get to them, I suspect).
> "witness evidence o
I wouldn't say that.
There is a good guy and there is one of ambivalent state of mind, whose
greed drives him into paranoia.
One will be dead at the end, like all others driven by greed, the other will
laugh,
but the object of desire will be gone with the wind.
(and only grumpy grampa get the girl
Thaddeuas, pitiful statement, you are on this list,
whether for scientific (I really doubt because of the
language you use) or collector desires (which I also
doubt, since I provide many of the meteorites that
fall these days), or lastly just to cause trouble,
which seems to be the case, since in t
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The three of us who went to Peru GPS'd the Carancas
meteorite crater, and all three came up with the same
altitude, 3,792 meters. It should now be the highest
meteorite found.
This is ~11,900 feet.
I know it was a tad difficult to breath up there.
Michael Farmer
Ps, I am working on a webpage rig
I remember doing calculations at university to
estimate the size of an impact crater and for a rock
maintaining it's cosmic velocity, it tends to be
around 20:1.
The conditions for surviving to the surface are quite
exacting and with chondrite craters such a rarity, are
we looking at an absolute i
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
October 1-5, 2007
o Ulysses Patera (Released 01 October 2007)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071001a
o Uranius Patera (Released 02 October 2007)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071002a
o Biblis Patera (Released 03 October 2007)
http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20071003a
o
Maybe I missed in in the plethora of posts, but what does the actual meteorite
look like? Any pics?
Matt
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Ordinary chondrites generally contain around 2% troilite (iron sulfide,
FeS); the thin section made of the Carancas meteorite shows even more,
around 5%. Troilite dissociates at high temperatures (e.g. a hypersonic
impact), releasing hot sulfur vapor, which in turn will oxidize in
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Mysterious Object Falls From Minnesota Sky
Reports of metallic object and flaming ball falling
from sky
Last Edited: Wednesday, 03 Oct 2007, 4:20 PM CDT
Created: We
Hi,
I have some new more detailed photos of the crater just sent to me
...will try and get them somewhere with a link...soon
Rob McCafferty wrote:
I remember doing calculations at university to
estimate the size of an impact crater and for a rock
maintaining it's cosmic velocity, it tends to
Hello Everyone,
I wanted to thank everyone who responded to my questions earlier this week
about thin sections. I know it takes time from your busy schedules to
respond, sometimes in depth, to questions and I appreciate your sharing your
knowledge.
I now have a greater awareness and appreci
Walter wrote:
I also read "Lets Go, Correo" by Robert Woolard. If you love
reading meteorite hunting stories (without all the name calling,
etc) you will LOVE this one.
.. and the cow milk episode :-)) Hilarious!!
Bernd
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.. and the cow milk episode :-)) Hilarious!!
yes, Bernd, unbelievable!
-Walter
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Walter wrote:
I also
Hi all -
Judging from the Farmer photo, which showed a house in
the distance, and the newspaper report that that house
had been hit by fragments, two points come to mind:
first, the local strewnfield is extensive, and may
yield small pieces for years, and two, Sterling's
comment on back spaliatio
Hi all
The Cow milk story reminds me of some dialog from an episode of The
Simpson's cartoon on Fox.
Homer: Are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What
about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal.
Homer: Heh he
Thanks Doug;
This graph is very useful for future reference.Great job thanks for
sharing.There is some very informative posts coming out of the carancas
fall.What
an event!Record breaking probably."Meteoritically speaking".Thanks to all
posters on this event and the calculations involv
Hi Piper,
I would exclude, at least that dust from chondrites or from irons (with big
troilites) would cause such symptoms,
else the meteorite dealers, who daily handle and cut meteorites of all
types, wouldn't be able to take part so vividly in the discussions on the
list here(or may that be the
For those of you unfamiliar with Actlabs.
http://www.actlabsint.com
I have a contact in the Peru branch. I'll see if we can expedite
shipping a sample to the headquarters in Canada. I think a 57 gram
piece would provide a lot of thin sections.
Randall
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Hi All
I just received some of the really beautiful Brenham meteorite coins
that were developed by Mark Bostick. These are limited to 2500 coins
just like the first in the series and those quickly sold out. It now
sells for over $400 per coin if you can find it. So don't miss your
chance to pick th
Just a suggestion, maybe we can link up with the Bolivian researchers.
I had the pleasure to meet Ing. Pedro P. Miranda Loza, Physicist and
Director of the Max Schreir Planetarium located in La Paz, Bolivia
while I was at the crater. They were the first to publish reports on
the analysis of the me
Hello list,
Thanks for the reactions both public and private to my posting to the list
about sulfur dioxide at Carancas. This thread has also given me a new idea
about the "boiling" water in the crater. Yes, it may have been the obvious:
ground water raised to the boiling point by impact heat.
Regarding the reports you mentioned about historic falls, I
wouldn't take
the assertions there to seriously. As we all know, meteorites fall
cold, but
nevertheless the old reports tells the stone was to hot to tuch, it
glowed 3
days, the ground was hot and so on...
Best!
Martin
Hi Marti
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I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting information on
thin sections with priority service. I hope to send them a 57 gram
specimen. I hope to get a response from them soon. Any valid
researcher desiring a thin section can contact me off list. I don't
know right now what the price will
In a pic, this tells the story. Mike is there, police don't care.
http://filer.livinginperu.com/news/img/farmer_meteor_s.jpg
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Goodbye.
--- "Dr. Richard Daniels"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting
> information on
> thin sections with priority service. I hope to send
> them a 57 gram
> specimen. I hope to get a response from them soon.
> Any valid
> researcher desiring a t
Don't let the door hit you in the backside, skippy.
Most of us have grown weary of your crap a long time
ago.
Don
--- "Dr. Richard Daniels"
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> I just sent a e-mail to Actlabs in Canada requesting
> information on
> thin sections with priority service. I hope to send
>
Hi Mike,
that's the debate, as old as the list itself.
And I have the advantage simply to state: They are cold.
Why I can be so bold?
Because nobody can evidence the opposite.
The dilemma is, that nobody involved in meteoritics will ever attend a
meteorite fall,
so we will always be thrown back t
Hi Piper,
I've been thinking about the "boiling water" and might have another
explanation or two. First if this hit the ground faster than terminal
velocity, I think that air could have been compressed under the specimen
and is slowly bubbling out under as the water reacts to erode around the
Hi, "Randall," List,
Wearily, to set the record straight:
1. I am not a dealer of meteorites. I buy'em;
I don't sell'em. I was at one time an antiques
dealer, but sold nothing as old as meteorites.
2. I did receive a List email from you with
an active running script in it. I don't know
what
Hello and good day Mark
I got my coins today. Really cool . The sky is amazing. What a cool
effect. I have not seen a sky like that before.
Again, great job. The coins look great even though you did not get the
buffalo.
Thanks.
Best to you,
Griff
Parker, Colorado, U.S.A.
IMCA 2510
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Thanks for your comments Griff. It was nice seeing you again in Denver.
"The sky is amazing. What a cool effect. I have not seen a sky like that
before."
The sky is palladium plated. Palladium is a precious metal that sells for
around $360 an oz., up about $10 this last week. On the coin, i
http://www.andina.com.pe/NoticiaDetalle.aspx?id=144455
Above is the newest article that came out today in
Peru, and I just did nother one hour interview with
another news firm in Peru. I guess they should think
again before threatening and robbing people like me. I
fight back.
Here is the trans
Hi
As every week I have some of my cool specimens ending on eBay.
Take a look for some occasions
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>Thanks for your comments Griff. It was nice seeing you again in Denver.
>
>"The sky is amazing. What a cool effect. I have not seen a sky like that
>before."
>
>The sky is palladium plated. Palladium is a precious metal that sells for
>around $3
Hi all -
I hope you will bear with me here, as I need to make a
record of this Shawnee tradition of the Holocene Start
Impacts. It comes from Albert S. Gatschet's
manuscript, which was not available to me when I
assembled "Man and Impact in the Americas", and so
this tradition was not included i
Hi Herman,
Glad it could be helpful, and also would like to thank your for the always
positive comments and attitude you have on the list.
I prefer the graph I already posted, but I got a private email that it was a
nice graph, but...but one had to stand on their head to read it best. So
h
Hi, E.P., List,
E.P. writes:
> ...After this the Good Mind created the first man and
> woman at the Buffalo Lick...may be identified with
> Big (Salt) Lick, just to the south of... Cincinnati, Ohio...
This would put the spot where Humanity was created
right on the site (or within a very few miles
Recently I received 3 new spheres for my collection: Uruacu, Black Onaping &
one made from a brick from Nininger's Meteorite Museum.
Of the 3, the Uruacu is my favorite but I'm really glad I was able to add an
impact melt specimen to the shelf and I'm equally happy about the Nininger
Sphere si
Doug,
> I am in sort of a rush since today is Monze Day.
Are you flying to Monze for Lwiindi or just
having your own New World Lwiindi? Whichever,
I wish you much rain and bounteous maize! But,
aren't we in the wrong axial hemisphere?
Sterling K. Webb
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Ed, Sterling and List,
Ed your interpretations of their "myths" and the
other "myths" mentioning impacts (your
belief-interpretation by adding [impact, comet,
meteorite is sense-less]) have no bearing on fact or
science. Even Holocene Start Impact is a belief and
not a fact; Younger-Dryas group
Hi all,
Just been sent these...
Some quite detailed shots of the crater showing the strata and debris
and less water in than most shots.
Also a shot of a nice 116g piece...still cant tell if thats fusion crust
or shock vein exposed...what do anyone else think?
http://i117.photobucket.com/a
WOW, it took me to go there to get them to begin to
move, we will see how much longer it takes to dig out
what is left of the meteorite, finally!
Mike;Amazing meteorite diplomacy.You guys got the job done.I personally am
glad it came out that way.You saved a possible large meteorite for a
Notice how full of garbage the crater is? This is how
Peru treats the crater, and you have to wonder why
they wnet nuts over us trying to save the meteorite
from destruction.
Mike
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> Hi all,
>
> Just been sent these...
>
> Some quite detailed shots of th
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 02:49:37 +0100, you wrote:
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>http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater4.jpg
>http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater3.jpg
>http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o43/LaburnumStudio/CarancasCrater1.jpg
Wow, look at all the gar
Ok list, I have been working all day, and finally am
about finished. Here is the preliminary pages for the
carancas meteorite fall. I will make some changes as I
see the need, but this should feed your hunger for
information and photos.
Michael Farmer
http://meteoriteguy.com/carancasfall.htm
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Read this english story, then check out the photo I
posted, who do you think it lying?
check this out, the Peruvian police said I was not
allowed into the crater, see the comment I just made
below, it shows a link of me in the crater WITH THE
POLICE!
I would
Hi Dirk -
I suppose I'll just have to disagree with you on the
physical evidence for the Holocene Start Impacts.
Apparently the US National Academy of Science does as
well, as they just published the team's research in
their Proceedings.
>These myths were recorded not by the original
>peoples (n
List and Ed,
Continuing discussion follows EPG`s final question.
"E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:"...
"Do you really want to stand by such a display of a
lack of intelligence and sense, or do you wish to
reconsider that statement?"
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Hello again list,
Ground penetrating radar (GPR) is commonly used for non-destructive
investigation of archaeological sites. GPR "can detect objects, changes in
material, and voids and cracks." (Wikipedia) Has anyone thought of mapping
the crater with GPR before sending in a backhoe to rip it
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