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2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
POPSCI Article: "...The White House also wants NASA to focus more attention on climate change research and monitoring and developing programs enabling future exploration of asteroids and the inner solar system" http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2010-01/rumor-obama-budget-slash-funds-

[meteorite-list] AD: Buzzard Coulee 10 gram 99% Fusion Crusted Individual with Canadian Export Permit

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Murphy
Hello List, If anyone is not able to make it to the show and is interested a nice 10 gram Buzzard Coulee Individual I just listed one on ebay. There is also a 4.3 gram Buzzard ebay auction that ends in 6 hours. Many Thanks, Mark Murphy IMCA# 6216 _

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
this what is possible take with a Zeiss Luminar 16 mm http://www.mindat.org/photo-274787.html http://www.mindat.org/photo-268445.html just two examples Matteo   > > Matteo, dont mention Zeiss lenses.  I'll burst with > jealousy! You are spoiled! > > [Erik] > M come Meteorite Meteoriti

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Erik Fisler
AL & John- More depth of field at higher F-stops yes, but you loose sharpness with each f-stop.  Therfore, combining a series of F2.8 shots into one picture will be sharper then shooting at F22.  This is proven and published in several canon and nikon articles.  Especially when you have a 10-24

Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread Erik Fisler
Franconia irons (Sacremento Wash 005) often have copper in them.  > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:14:46 -0800 > From: star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite > > While I am

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Richard Kowalski
Yes it will, because GE expects the input to be Latitude, Longitude and Rob has presented them as Longitude, Latitude. Reverse his numbers and it will work correctly. -- Richard Kowalski http://fullmoonphotography.net IMCA #1081 --- On Wed, 1/27/10, Shawn Alan wrote: > From: Shawn Alan > Su

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Peterson
Sounds like you swapped the latitudes and longitudes. A latitude of -77 will place you nicely inside Antarctica regardless of the longitude. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: "Sha

[meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Shawn Alan
Rob and Listers, When I put these coordinates in from the new estimated impact predictions for the Lortan meteorite in google maps, the new impact sites are in Antarctica. Am I doing something wrong or is there a number off in the coordinates that's giving me a wrong location? Shawn Alan Mass

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Chauncey Walden
To restate what Chris pointed out as the optical law: diffraction effects begin as soon as you stop the lens down. A perfect lens would be sharpest across the field of view and in the plane of focus at its widest aperture. There are no consumer grade perfect lenses so some diffraction worsenin

Re: [meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and running

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Johnson
Great looking web site Sonny! Regards, Michael Johnson http://www.rocksfromspace.org - Original Message - From: wahlpe...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:53:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and ru

Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread cdtucson
Hello, Copper is in the Tucson Iron visible with the naked eye. Also reported in West TX. and many many more. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Frank Cressy wrote: > Hello all, > > Thought I'd add that the first occurrance of elemental copper was found in > the Richardson (Nor

Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread Frank Cressy
Hello all, Thought I'd add that the first occurrance of elemental copper was found in the Richardson (North Dakota) fall of 1918.  It is noted in a paper by Quirke in 1919. Cheers, Frank - Original Message From: Greg Catterton To: Mark Bowling Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.

Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread Greg Catterton
This was just a nice looking 165g NWA stone I decided to cut open. I found it had some really nice inclusions and offered it for testing. I have been posting updates as testing has been progressing. I actually have 2 complete slices of this material currently listed on ebay (not trying to really

Re: [meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Bowling
Cool Greg, That was just a random NWA?  I thought I heard that Franconia has copper.  As a copper miner, I would love to have a small specimen with some copper, visible or otherwise (hand specimen or thin section).  So any of you who know where I could secure something like that, please let me

Re: [meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and running

2010-01-27 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Greg, Sonny and List, I agree, awesome site Sonny. It's first class, just like you. :) Best regards and happy hunting, MikeG On 1/27/10, Greg Stanley wrote: > > Sonny: > > Very nice website; I really like all the pictures and the stories. > Congratulations on the CM1 find... truly amazing.

[meteorite-list] Copper found in meteorite

2010-01-27 Thread Greg Catterton
While I am sure this is more common then I have been able to find out about, it surely is not something that you see everyday. We found several areas in an NWA (the one with nice inclusions) that has copper present. Here is a picture of one of them, enjoy. http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c165

Re: [meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and running

2010-01-27 Thread Greg Stanley
Sonny: Very nice website; I really like all the pictures and the stories.  Congratulations on the CM1 find... truly amazing... what a stone.  Beautiful dog you have as well. Greg S. > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:

Re: [meteorite-list] Facebook - Update

2010-01-27 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
This sucks Eric. I will try it later tonight and report back the results. I'm not sure, but I think I have the most friends of any meteorite person on Facebook, so I have to be extra careful about my account. With over 1500 friends, I am extra cautious - I do not click on any external links, peri

Re: [meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and running

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Very Cool Sonny! Great job on the site! Regards, Eric On 1/27/2010 3:53 PM, wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi List, I have been working on a new web page. The web page has photographs of many of my new finds including Moapa Valley, the first CM1 ever found in the United States and only the seco

[meteorite-list] Facebook - Update

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
UPDATE: It's worse than I thought.. I got my account back, and everything seemed great until... Until I tried to post a link to my Lorton Meteorite Fall page. Those of you who are one Facebook please do me a favor and try to post a link to my Lorton Meteorite Fall page and see if you get the s

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Peterson
Just to put a quantitative spin on this, the physical size of the Airy disc (the diffraction spot produced by a point source) is directly related to focal ratio. Any lens at f/22 will produce a diffraction spot 27 um in diameter. Any lens at f/8 will produce a diffraction spot 11 um in diameter.

[meteorite-list] NevadaMeteorites.com my new web page is up and running

2010-01-27 Thread wahlperry
Hi List, I have been working on a new web page. The web page has photographs of many of my new finds including Moapa Valley, the first CM1 ever found in the United States and only the second found outside of Antarctica. I have included a few hunting stories and currently I am working on a few

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 77, Issue 82

2010-01-27 Thread Owen Busch
-- From: Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 10:00 AM To: Subject: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 77, Issue 82 Send Meteorite-list mailing list submissions to meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, vi

[meteorite-list] If you can't go...

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi list, You guys who can't get to the Tucson show, but would like to pick up some meteorites, please contact me off-list. Regards, Eric Wichman 760-522-2152 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorit

[meteorite-list] Reevaluating the age of the Solar System

2010-01-27 Thread Charles O'Dale
YouTube at the end of the e-mail (a must)   Reevaluating the age of the Solar System Gregory A. BrenneckaSchool of Earth and Space Exploration, Arizona State University Lead-lead (Pb-Pb) dating is among the most widely used radiometric dating techniques to determine the age of really old things,

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Dark Matter
Agreed. Perception is often reality. However, half the fun of this List is when the content spins from the pedestrian to the academic. Best, Martin On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Meteorites USA wrote: > Without seeming to endlessly argue with the data presented. I would like to > point out

[meteorite-list] Regmaglypts

2010-01-27 Thread abudka
Jason and Everyone, To continue this discussion, I am labeling “who said what.” >Phyllis: My reference to “bubbles” is to morphology, NOT voids. Another >meteoritic example of “bubble morphology effects” is pallasitic olivines such >as Springwater and Imilac. Jason: So you're saying that th

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Without seeming to endlessly argue with the data presented. I would like to point out the the sharpness examples in the link you provided are taken from a VERY small percentage of the overall image. In relation to the entire photo taken as a whole the sharpness of the image is comparable at any

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Dark Matter
Sorry, but it won't. The measures are small, but the optical physics are real. http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/50-comparison/f-stops.htm Best, Martin Eric wrote: > An f/2.8 lens focused > properly with the right settings will be just as sharp in the given DOF of a > comparable photo/subjec

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography

2010-01-27 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
for similar photos its ok a 100 macro lens. I work normaly with a Canon 100 mm macro, with a f10 max f16 close. If I have to work on macro-micro mineralogy photos, I use Zeiss lenses, with this lenses I arrive to take photos of crystals under the 1 mm, mormaly max. 0.6 mm. Matteo M come Meteori

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Uh... sure it can... In the DOF zone it will be crystal clear IF... It depends on MANY factors such a light, shutter speed, film speed (er, uh, ISO setting), autofocus setting, manual focus, type of lens, type of glass in the lense, whether the lens is clean, whether the camera is handheld or s

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography

2010-01-27 Thread Dark Matter
Hi All, While 2.8 does not seem all that fast, it is a standard speed for macro/micro lens. However, the big guns for sports, news, and wildlife routinely have 2.8 firepower with the 300 2.8 as the standard and even a 400 2.8! 500s and 600s are available in f4. Ultra wides in the 2.8 range are als

[meteorite-list] AD NWA 5923 L3 colourful slices

2010-01-27 Thread Andreas Gren
Dear List members, I would like to offer some slices of the nice L3 Chondrite NWA 5923. NWA 5923 is at the status "provisional", but should get the "official" status soon. A single stone of 950.6g was bought in Erfoud, Morocco in 2008. Probably paired to NWA 5910 L3 987g NWA5923 chondrules are

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Agreed, but I was really only using the sports analogy as an example of f-stop use because I assumed it would be familiar to people and they could visualize what was being described much better. ;) The ultimate point being that f-stop isn't the "controlling factor" for sharper photos though it'

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Dark Matter
Hmm, where to start How about a couple general points: First, a smaller aperture is a bigger number as it represents a ratio of lens diameter to aperture opening. I believe that is expressed backward in the previous post. Further a doubling or halving of the shutter speed or ISO is the same a

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Peterson
While there are exceptions, most lenses give their best optical performance about two stops below their fully open setting. That's where you'll usually get the best balance between overall resolution and minimum off-axis aberrations. Chris * Chris L Pet

Re: [meteorite-list] Regmaglypts

2010-01-27 Thread Jason Utas
Hello Again Phyllis, All, > 1.  My reference to “bubbles” is to morphology, NOT voids.  Another > meteoritic example of “bubble morphology effects” is pallasitic olivines such > as Springwater and Imilac. So you're saying that the bubbles on the surface of your irons are like the olivine crysta

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography

2010-01-27 Thread Matson, Robert D.
Hi Eric, Al, Erik, > Erik is right, The higher f-stop of 22 will increase depth of field ... Yes. > ... not sharpness of focus. Unless you have a very good lens, it will ALSO increase sharpness of focus for stationary objects. > This is why sports photographers use a low/large f-stop lens like

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Meteorites USA
Erik is right, The higher f-stop of 22 will increase depth of field, not sharpness of focus. Though it's related, it's not quite the same. Your focus is not controlled entirely by f-stop, only the DOF and amount of light allow into the camera. This is why sports photographers use a low/large f

[meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Shawn Alan
Rob, That's great news that 2 images were taken of the meteorite trail. I had speculated that if there were more fragments that fallen from the Lorton meteorite they might have fallen on the military base and you confirmed it with the 2 images. Great work Rob. Shawn      [meteorite-list] Updat

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Peterson
Hi Mike- Meteorites are falling at terminal velocity for miles before they hit. They rapidly lose all of their original velocity components. So yes, this particular meteorite would have behaved the same regardless of its entry characteristics. The ground is hard... really, really hard. In ma

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread Dark Matter
Hi All, Actually there is a further concern here. Although when a lens is stopped down to its max it does have the greatest depth of field, but it is also not at its sweet spot for sharpness. Usually a stop or two less than max provides the sharpest image the lens is capable of. Here is more about

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Chris Peterson
How so? A meteorite's impact speed is a function of its shape and mass only, and is unrelated to the details of its entry speed and angle. A meteorite lands at an angle that deviates from vertical by at most a few degrees, with that angle entirely determined by the near-ground wind speed and dir

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread GeoZay
>>guess this explains why it did so much damage?<< Mike, I haven't been following this too hard, but am curious as to what you mean about it explains the damage? GeoZay __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.h

Re: [meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Mike Hankey
I guess this explains why it did so much damage? On Wednesday, January 27, 2010, Rob Matson wrote: > Hi All, > > I finally received a good second image of the Lorton bolide smoke > trail taken immediately after the fall (and before upper atmospheric > winds distorted it). More importantly, the tw

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread John Gwilliam
Al is right on this one. The higher the F-stop number, the greater the depth of field is, i.e more of a three dimensional object will be in focus. The drawback to this is less light enters the lens thus requiring a longer shutter speed. And, if your not careful, a background that is too clos

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Photography (Must read!)

2010-01-27 Thread al mitt
Hi Erik and all, I'd think just the opposite would be correct. A higher f-stop (f 22, 18 etc.) would create a better depth of field and the more open your iris is on your camera (lower f stop, 1.8, 2.0 etc.) the less focused your items would be. I think you just stated it backwards. Best! --

[meteorite-list] Regmaglypts

2010-01-27 Thread abudka
My Response Jan 27, 2010 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Regmaglypts Jason and All, 1. My reference to “bubbles” is to morphology, NOT voids. Another meteoritic example of “bubble morphology effects” is pallasitic olivines such as Springwater and Imilac. A thought experiment: Once again, env

[meteorite-list] Updated Lorton trajectory

2010-01-27 Thread Rob Matson
Hi All, I finally received a good second image of the Lorton bolide smoke trail taken immediately after the fall (and before upper atmospheric winds distorted it). More importantly, the two images I have were taken from sufficiently different vantage points that a good 3D solution could be compute