Re: [meteorite-list] Matter Arising - Last Post

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Davidson
Dear Count and List Members Thank you for those kind words. A body like the membership of the MetList should be a rich tapestry of many colours and textures, and not a bland, boring monotone. There is a place for all people and voices - long may it continue. Can I also take the liberty of sendi

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Davidson
Dear All It is interesting that Darren should raise this topic now. Yesterday afternoon (Thursday 11th), I was contacted by the BBC and asked to comment on this very item and also to say something about the illegal trade in meteorites. I also took the opportunity to inform them of the situation i

Re: [meteorite-list] Maybe a Mexican Carancas?

2010-02-12 Thread Marco Langbroek
Doubts are now being raised about there being any crater or impact damage. See Phil Plait's Bad Astronomy blog for a summary: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/02/11/breaking-mexican-meteorite-impact/ Also, I want to point out right ahead that the suggestion that this was a

Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February11, 2010

2010-02-12 Thread Jerry Flaherty
The Kid has a talent. Sign him up! -- From: "Linton Rohr" Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 3:33 PM To: "Greg Hupe" Cc: Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - February11, 2010 Very cool, Greg! That would have amaz

Re: [meteorite-list] Seeking info on the Salla Meteorite

2010-02-12 Thread Pekka Savolainen
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/docs/mb31.pdf Jarmo Moilanens english site seem to be under construction, but at least you can find some pics from the finnish site. http://tin.er.usgs.gov/meteor/docs/mb31.pdf http://www.somerikko.net/meteoriitit/salla.html Think, Jarmo may have also the english

Re: [meteorite-list] Maybe a Mexican Carancas?

2010-02-12 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Folks, On another List, I heard a local man report that a large fireball was seen in rural Mexico in April of 2009. According to his report, meteorites were found, including one which is embedded in a tree. But, meaningful details were sketchy. The man who reported it claimed that he was goin

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Davidson
Darryl Thanks for the message. As it happens we have no material from NWA at all. When I took over the collection, I quickly discovered that there was no official acquisition policy for the Museum's meteorite collection. Most large museums have policies like this which define specific areas of int

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Davidson
Carl and Debbie I realise that I may have been a bit cryptic in making this statement. But even I, comparative newcomer though I am, know a bit about the whole Algeria/Morocco/Libya contraband trade in meteorites. I have read a few articles on the Web, and spoken to dealers and collectors. As the

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Peter and List Members, NWA material has been thoroughly checked out by several museums and does not present any problem whatsoever. The Royal Ontario Museum did their homework and now has a world class collection of NWA material because of it, while other museums have missed out on outstan

[meteorite-list] TEST

2010-02-12 Thread Sans Saharacis
test test 123 check check __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] A Listory of the World, Part One

2010-02-12 Thread Sans Saharacis
The Listory of the World, Part One. In the beginning, there was darkness and there were no meteorites. Then, a voice split the darkness and it said - "let there be light." An infinite lighted display case appeared, and it glowed like a beacon, banishing the darkness. The display case appeared

Re: [meteorite-list] A Listory of the World, Part One

2010-02-12 Thread cdtucson
I'll have what she's having. -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax Sans Saharacis wrote: > The Listory of the World, Part One. > > > In the beginning, there was darkness and there were no meteorites. > > Then, a voice split the darkness and it said - "let there be light." > > An infi

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Carl 's
Hi Adam, Carl, Peter, All, That's strange. This is the second time in three weeks I've heard the NWAs were illegal. At least I think what was meant was the unclassified NWAs are. Adam, would that make any difference? Carl2 Adam wrote: >NWA material has been thoroughly checked out by several

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Hupe
It makes no difference whatsoever whether a meteorite is classified or not when originating from Northwest Africa as far as legalities go. People who spread the rumor that the export of meteorites from Morocco are illegal seem to have an agenda. A dealer once tried to make it so you needed a spe

Re: [meteorite-list] Maybe a Mexican Carancas?

2010-02-12 Thread Meteorites USA
Any word on the "crater"? There's no new news on it other than to thought it was a Russian spy satellite crashing to Earth, and then another report supposedly ruled that out. Other reports are saying it never happened and there's no seismic data suggesting an event of this magnitude. Any idea

[meteorite-list] Tucson '10 + Raise a Glass for Sikhote-Alin + [AD]

2010-02-12 Thread Notkin
Dear Sikhote-Alin: Happy birthday to my all-time favorite meteorite. 63 years old today and not looking a day older than 4.6 billion. For those of you still in Tucson, please stop by our room this evening around 6 pm for a wine and cheese toast to that most lovely of IIAB irons: http://

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Darryl Pitt
Hi Adam Hoping all is well... If the issue below was as clear-cut as suggested, why then does Smithsonian policy prohibit the acquisition of planetary NWAs? My impression, and I could be mistaken, is that the country of export (Morocco) is less relevant than the countries in the NWA

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Darryl and List, I do not know why the Smithsonian seems to have a problem with NWA, you will have to ask them. I do know they have accepted some NWA material into there collection as a donation. I asked two different curators and got two varying opinions nether of which suggested they wer

[meteorite-list] Nevada Meteorites Hunt page update " Driving Across Texas with nowhere to go."

2010-02-12 Thread wahlperry
Hi List, I've added a new story on my web site under the Meteorite Hunts page. "Driving across Texas with nowhere to go" It is one of my hunting trips with Rob Reisener and Skip Wilson. As I get time, I will adding a few more meteorite hunting stories. Thanks, Sonny http://www.nevadameteo

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Darryl Pitt
MmhmmI highly doubt the Smithsonian is unable to make a determination of law or conducts business by prevailing rumors. Anyway.. Good weekend / d, On Feb 12, 2010, at 2:32 PM, Adam Hupe wrote: Hi Darryl and List, I do not know why the Smithsonian seems to have a problem with NW

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Hupe
One just has to take into account where the rumors originated and for what purpose. I will leave it alone at that as Martin has done a thorough job explaining this . The bottom line is that this issue was brought up in a public forum in Morocco itself and no laws prohibiting the export of meteor

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Jeff Grossman
Darryl is definitely on the right track. It is not the country of final export that is an issue for many museums. It is the history of the specimen before that, tracing back to the point of origin. The uncertainty over whether a meteorite may have been removed illegally from a country, or re

[meteorite-list] WISE Spies a Comet with its Powerful Infrared Eye

2010-02-12 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-046 WISE Spies a Comet with its Powerful Infrared Eye Jet Propulsion Laboratory February 11, 2010 NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer, or WISE, has discovered its first comet, one of many the mission is expected to find among millions of

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take them for granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Hupe
I guess we will have to take the Moroccans at their word to where they were found; innocent until proven guilty, at least in the U.S. The only bordering country with possible new laws on the books is Algeria. I know that this border is very well protected these days so only a fraction may stil

[meteorite-list] Spirit Finishes Pre-Winter Drives

2010-02-12 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2010-045 Spirit Finishes Pre-Winter Drives Jet Propulsion Laboratory February 11, 2010 NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Spirit is now parked for the winter. The rover team is commanding Spirit this week to make additional preparations for the Mars south

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: February 8-12, 2010

2010-02-12 Thread Ron Baalke
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES February 8-12, 2010 o Tithonium Chasma (08 February 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100208a o Coprates Chasma (09 February 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100209a o Coprates Catena (10 February 2010) http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20100210a o Dark Slope Strea

[meteorite-list] Mars Express: Auspicious Orbit Marks Run-up to Phobos Flyby

2010-02-12 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMDUGSJR4G_0.html Auspicious orbit marks run-up to Phobos flyby European Space Agency 29 January 2010 On 26 January, Mars Express completed its th orbit around the Red Planet, an auspicious milestone as the satellite is readied for the closest-ever f

[meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: Craters Young and Old in Sirenum Fossae

2010-02-12 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMJLFSJR4G_0.html Mars Express Craters young and old in Sirenum Fossae European Space Agency 3 February 2010 The Mars Express High Resolution Stereo Camera has imaged craters both young and old in this view of the Southern Highlands of Mars. [Image]

[meteorite-list] Tamdakht

2010-02-12 Thread Abdelaziz Alhyane
Dear members! Any need for Tamdakht fall? count on me, i got what you want if ya looking for a large complete one! primary and secondary crust! don't worry for the price! just let me show you and we talk it then. Best Aziz ( saffron guy) _

Re: [meteorite-list] Russian meteorites-- don't take themfor granite!

2010-02-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello, only a short note regarding the NWAs from Morocco (because I have an instable internet connection at the moment.) There aren't any laws, regarding ownership, export or hunting of meteorites in Morocco. That was also realized on the desert workshop of MetSoc in Casablanca, 2006. Should be