Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Humhem...please! No offense. It's absolutely you're private affair, what you're doing with your meteorites. Though in general I think it's a big No-No to manipulate stony meteorites that way, to artificially bleach them. (Just was looking, "Bar Keeper Friend"s main reactive agent is oxalic acid).

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF isthe best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Mark Ford
Hi Martin, I agree it doesn't sound like a good idea. Personally I wouldn't do this, at a pinch I would treat an Iron meteorite if it was the last hope of keeping it alive! However this type of thing has actually been done for many years, other methods are also used such as galvanic cleaning,

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Chris Spratt
Hello listers, I wonder what the institutional curators do to preserve their meteorite specimens? Do they actually do anything, or do they just let the specimens in their care rust away? Many years ago, I saw bags of specimens in the lower basement of the National History Museum in London, Eng

[meteorite-list] Lunar's Martian's found?

2010-09-13 Thread cdtucson
List, I am told my link to my odd finds was broken. Please look again, as some of you may have similar rocks you've found. Or ideas? http://tinypic.com/1r50fs40 Thanks. Carl -- Carl or Debbie Esparza Meteoritemax __ Visit the Archives at http://www.m

Re: [meteorite-list] GoogleEarth & GPS in Meteorite Hunting

2010-09-13 Thread cdtucson
Michael, I have the new EVO. It is the first 4G phone by sprint. It too has hundreds of app's. Google Earth is but, one of them that works for this purpose. The navigation app is also super cool. It is voice activated but also displays the exact coordinates where you are standing. To me the cool

Re: [meteorite-list] Planetary Body Odors

2010-09-13 Thread bill kies
Great article. Wouldn't it be interesting to get the opinions of a few super smellers employed by perfume companies and vintners. Bill > Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:49:02 -0700 > From: bolidecha...@yahoo.com > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Su

[meteorite-list] sale/ad A list of everything I am offering for sale

2010-09-13 Thread Mike Miller
Hello everyone we have reached a level in our Ebay store we have never achieved before, right now we have over 200 items listed and only a couple are not meteorites.So I would like to invite you to have a look at the store here http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritefinder I know it can get pretty borin

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Man/Men

2010-09-13 Thread bill kies
Hi all, Bob Haag's been known as the Meteorite man for a long time, not sure exactly how long. When Geoff and Steve teamed up it was only natural they would be the Meteorite men. I checked for the first reference in the met-list archives, kind of like searching for the first time hammer and m

Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies - Was Meteorite testing locations - Was meteorite millionaire

2010-09-13 Thread bill kies
I used to invite people to my home so we could examine and discuss their finds. Bad idea. After several experiences with disgruntled "meteorite" owners I had to give that up. Some people get downright mean when you tell them the bad news. I've never seen anything like it in 40 years of buying a

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi List, Most museums and notable collections realize that proper preparation is the key to preservation. Slices should be polished on both sides to reduce surface area which can and will trap moisture. A properly applied polish is the most important step in preserving any cut meteorite that

Re: [meteorite-list] Laquer

2010-09-13 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi Adam - If you ever have another laquered specimen in the same shape, send it to me instead of the landfill. I'll pick up the postage. I'm sure everyone here is thankful for your warning, and will profit from the lesson of your loss. my condolences, and thanks, Ed _

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 85, Issue 27

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Schoner
Martin and all, I too am worried about this trend, using BFK to "preserve" meteorites, especially stones. Having moved out of meteorite hunting due to disability, over the last 8 years I have kept my interest alive by learning the thin section process, and how to make them economically. Wha

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite.

2010-09-13 Thread Steve Schoner
Re-post as I can never seem to get the subject right when posting from a "digest from the met-list) -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Schoner" To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: Meteorite-list Digest, Vol 85, Issue 27 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:53:12 GMT Mart

[meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Shawn Alan
Hi Martin and Listers   Martin BKF is an acid and nothing more The acid doesn't bleach the surface and the active ingredient is oxalic acid, naturally occurs in plants and animals. The acid acts like an accelerant to the surface by stripping away the rust. The oxalic acid is nothing more the

[meteorite-list] Proper procedures, or How to get your 'meteorite' classified

2010-09-13 Thread tracy latimer
I think that it might do a great deal to help weed out the meteorwrongs (or at least the people who insist that they have a meteorite when it's a chunk of asphalt) would be to explain that a necessary step for classification is a thin section and tell them that, unless they have a thin section

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is thebest :)

2010-09-13 Thread Linton Rohr
Hi folks. I think both sides of this debate have valid points. One might ask: Is the cure worse than the disease? While a 'little' rust doesn't bother me, if my 'patient' is being killed by rust I'll most certainly intervene. A pile of crumbling, rusted fragments is of no value to science eith

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Shawn, Martin and List, This subject has come up before and opinions vary widely. This is especially true with irons. I've heard of people using Sheath, WD-40, motor oil, transmission fluid, phosphoric acid, alcohol, etc. Treatments which leave any kind of noticeable change in the pristine (o

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Starsinthedirt
Hi List, I must agree with Shawn on this one. Does any one know of a case where a meteorite came out of an end collectors collection to be used in any way in research? I am not talking about Bob's 1st Lunar or Adams giant Lunar (These guys are not the end collectors). Any thing that d

Re: [meteorite-list] Crazies on eBay

2010-09-13 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, It is interesting to note that 50% of the the top ten meteorites in price listed on eBay are not meteorites at all. It is a shame that these bogus offerings interfere with genuine pieces. It is obvious that they self appraised these pieces after listening to overinflated and

Re: [meteorite-list] Proper procedures, or How to get your 'meteorite' classified

2010-09-13 Thread Meteorites USA
All Meteorwrongs come from people who don't know how to ID a meteorite. Seems obvious but... If they get the "rock" Identified by an expert FIRST, then this weeds out all the bogus rocks that swamp the labs in the first place. Tracy, you said: "...Point them in the direction of someone who wil

Re: [meteorite-list] brand new format, new biographical & photographic archives

2010-09-13 Thread The Tricottet Collection
Thank you all for the nice off-list comments about the new version of the website. And don't forget you can join the Tricottet Collection on Facebook and Twitter for the latest updates. Best regards, A.M. The Tricottet Collection of Natural History Specimens (Minerals, Fossils & Meteorites)

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Tom, The NWA 2086 specimen I submitted is being "researched" now. Will this be ground-breaking research? Probably not. But an experienced and qualified eye determined that it has some anomalous properties after examining the specimen in hand. Instead of the usual thin-sectioning, it is goin

Re: [meteorite-list] collectors meteorites in research was Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi Tom, I provided some meteorites to a University that was studying "Material Properties" for the Department of Defense. The meteorites that I provided were irons or fusion crusted stones. I saw some great images. But I never learned just what the research involved due to the research bei

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Starsinthedirt
Well, I stand corrected. I guess my statement was much to sweeping a generalization. There are many samples in peoples collections that would be valuable to science and I did not mean to dismiss them so lightly. Mike and Dirk were the first to give me examples of my error and there were m

Re: [meteorite-list] collectors meteorites in research was Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Peter and Tom, And I almost forgot, I also sent samples of Chicxulub microtektites to a researcher in Japan who used them while doing research, that eventually ended up being published in peer-reviewed academic journal. So it's not very common perhaps, but it does happen. FWIW, I keep the maj

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Guides on eBay

2010-09-13 Thread Richard Kowalski
With the fakes and frauds on ebay, and the discussions on this list, I have not heard a single person mention the guides on ebay that discuss meteorites, meteorite identification and what to do if you think you've found a meteorite. In addition to this, I don't remember seeing any lot listing o

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite magazine

2010-09-13 Thread Greg Hupe
Hello Larry and List, I am sorry to hear you and Nancy are leaving Meteorite Magazine. You both, along with Jessica Park, did a very professional job for this long established publication, your talents will be missed! I wish you all happy success in whatever direction your lives take you. It w

[meteorite-list] HAPPY BIRTHDAY LUCE

2010-09-13 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello Listers,   Its Luce's birthday today. The Luce meteorite fell on Sept 13, 1768 in Sarthe, France. This historic meteorite is the first meteorite to have a chemical analysis done on a fallen meteorite stone.   Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Magazine

2010-09-13 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear Meteorite Hunters, Collectors and List, It has taken me a little time to get caught on things after taking the summer off to enjoy other hobbies. One thing I was finally able to do was sit and read Eric Wichman's new, "Meteorite Hunting & Collecting" magazine. If you have not read it yet,

Re: [meteorite-list] Rust Question about my stone meteorite. BKF is the best :)

2010-09-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi there, well although I still feel relatively healthy, I know my meteorites will outlive me. Historic meteorite collectors know it; the way a meteorite goes, how it is passed from people to people, through the collections, from generation to generation. Yes, we have now the decade, were meteorit

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Guides on eBay

2010-09-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Nja well, I just tried, but can't find any guide there, which will prevent anyone from buying products against "cellulitis". No seriously, was ever once such a self-found million dollar rock sold on ebay? (I'm observing ebay only sparsely). ? Martin PS: I think ways more harmful are these Meko

[meteorite-list] Cunnamula, Queensland, Australia rock

2010-09-13 Thread Don Giovanni
This story appeared on the list a few months ago but according to the "Perth Now" people, it has apparently only just recently been authenticated. There's a pic in the online article - nice looking big rock, at least for one of these kinds of stories. (To our Aussie friends, what's a gidge

[meteorite-list] Other hobbies?

2010-09-13 Thread Anita Westlake
OTHER hobbies? Really? (Said with meteorite firmly in cheek). Anita From: Greg Hupe To: Meteorites USA ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 5:31:17 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Hunters Magazine Dear Meteorite Hunters, Co

Re: [meteorite-list] Other hobbies?

2010-09-13 Thread Greg Hupe
Hi Anita, Not too many places to hunt meteorites in Florida, need other things to keep busy with. Mowing the lawn every three days aint going to cut it! :-) Greg - Original Message - From: "Anita Westlake" To: "Greg Hupe" ; "Meteorites USA" ; Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 7:47 P

[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day - September 14, 2010

2010-09-13 Thread Michael Johnson
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2010-09-13 Thread Meteorites USA
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