Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread Regine P.
Camp Verde comes to mind, of which one side, the backbone as Laurence Garvie calls it, seems to have been rubbed smooth. But taken its weight it could hardly have been carried around by a medicine man. Since I have first seen it I have always imagined someone taking it for its deceased child

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread bill kies
The Havana beads are another example of not only seemingly lost material, I can't locate them, but meteorites that were unquestionably gathered and altered by Native Americans. They date back to the Hopewell culture. Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 07:00:36

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2012-04-30 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 6007 Contributed by: Craig Moody http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list

[meteorite-list] Curation of meteorites containing organics

2012-04-30 Thread Carl Agee
I just saw Jim Wooddell's post about aluminum foil and the new CM fall. It turns out that aluminum foil does react somewhat with carbonaceous chondrite. Apparently the recommended storage material is Teflon. This is what is used in NASA's Lunar Lab (Teflon bags and gloves). Cold and dry (nitrogen)

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread MexicoDoug
Interesting though these are likely three different types of human weathering (wearing). w1: Here's a nice picture of the Canyon Diablo (Camp Verde iron) piece in which listmembers can appreciate these comments regarding possible handling (rubbing, perhaps along these line suggested something

Re: [meteorite-list] Curation of meteorites containing organics

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Carl and all! This is an important topic as I think most experience hunters will comply with sound advice. I brought this up because what I am seeing in the field first hand does not appear to be working well at all! Now, it might if the specimen is immediately placed in an additional

[meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill/Lotus/? bolide physics at the time of breakup

2012-04-30 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
I was curious to know if the primary bolide breakup event was explosive or simple fragmentation? By explosive I mean at the time of the breakup, energy is converted somehow that causes some pieces to alter their trajectory and shoot down to the ground instead of following a normal parabolic

Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill/Lotus/? bolide physics at the time of breakup

2012-04-30 Thread Robert Verish
Strewn field workers have an arkane phrase for this phenomenon called, blow-back, which is used to explain anomalies such as reverse size-grading, or exceptionally large fragments at the very fine-end of an otherwise well size-graded strewn-field. Bob V. --- On Mon, 4/30/12, Mendy Ouzillou

Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill/Lotus/? bolide physics at the time of breakup

2012-04-30 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Mendy and Bob, Listees; Yes, the explosion, which is not an explosion in a chemical sense, does involve an altering of trajectory, rather than arbitrarily saying toward the ground, theory goes it is in a direction perpendicular to the trajectory due to energy of the differential pressure

Re: [meteorite-list] Sutter's Mill/Lotus/? bolide physics at the time of breakup

2012-04-30 Thread Chris Peterson
Any energy injected into particles by some sort of explosive fragmentation is depleted in a second or so. All the meteorites briefly follow substantially parabolic paths, and then spend most of their time falling perfectly vertically with respect to the prevailing wind. That is, they carry

[meteorite-list] Sutters Mill

2012-04-30 Thread Edwin Thompson
Patrick and I are still in Sutter's mill. Really a fun area and great people here. Turns out that several meteorite dealer's live very close. I was shocked to see Jay Buscio here yesterday. Haven't seen him in over 15 years. Looks like many hunters have left but I am sure they will come back

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread Regine P.
Other images are here: http://spiralmemo.blogspot.de/p/blog-page.html and here: http://spiralmemo.blogspot.de/p/night-at-museum.html Interesting, the handling by many somehow never occurred to me. I always imagined just one person treating the meteorite as one of his own kids. Perhaps

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread Michael Gilmer
Hi Doug and List, Your comments about the 61kg Camp Verde iron call to mind a similar thought I had about the Bonita Springs chondrite. Bonita Springs is a 42kg stone, and the current consensus is that the stone was transported to it's eventual place of discovery in a pre-Calusa mound in

[meteorite-list] Sutters Mill

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Bandli
Best of luck to all our friends in this historic strewnfield. I arrived about an hour after Robert found the first piece on Tuesday and hunted for 5 full days. Despite getting skunked, the life experience and new friendships forged are priceless. I already miss the fun dinners, afternoon pow wows,

[meteorite-list] Soltmany - 1st anniversary

2012-04-30 Thread Marcin Cimala
Hello list. I almost forgot about THIS ! 30.04.2011 ordinary chondrite L6 fell at NE corner of Poland and hit small building. Few photos from site is here http://www.polandmet.com/gfx_soltmany/000.htm Happy birthday -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryty.pl

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread Matthias Bärmann
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Re: [meteorite-list] Sutters Mill

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Wooddell
I'll never forget the Hoover Meteorite Vacuum! Rob got a kick out of that! THAT was funny! Jim - Original Message - From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net To: 'Edwin Thompson' etmeteori...@hotmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:31 AM

Re: [meteorite-list] Soltmany - 1st anniversary

2012-04-30 Thread karmaka
My God, already one year I still have strong memories of this fall and was very happy for our Polish meteorite friends when it fell. I still remember the cute little Emilia G. talking about the fall on Polish TV, maybe a future meteorite scientist ;-) Where is the main mass now?

Re: [meteorite-list] Soltmany - 1st anniversary

2012-04-30 Thread Anne Black
Happy Birthday, and the whole story is here: http://imca.cc/index.php?option=com_wrapperItemid=194 Thank you Andrzej! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com Vice-President of IMCA www.IMCA.cc -Original Message- From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net To: Meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread MexicoDoug
the handling by many [Canyon Diablo (Camp Verde)] Conjectures of course on everyone' part, peppered by our own biases or cultural assumptions (Would Native Americans even have the concept of private property vs. community property for such a large relic?), which is what makes it a great

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread MexicoDoug
hypothesis regarding Bonita Springs Hi Mike, honestly, in the corrosive Florida coastal soils, it seems almost too good to be true considering the meteorite has a lot of iron through. Seems the finder may not have been an academic. You know these tall tales that can develop when somebody

Re: [meteorite-list] Pojoaque Pallisite

2012-04-30 Thread MexicoDoug
I'll look for a picture of it, but it is likely not in my present location. I believe I posted a picture to the meteorite list though it has surely been at least five years. The trophy-piece it is no longer with the finder as of about 10 years ago. It is hazy in memory though I documented

[meteorite-list] Glorieta Mountain (Was: Pojoaque Pallasite)

2012-04-30 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Regine inquired: I too would like to know where this one is being kept. What baffles me though, how does one get to the conclusion the meteorite had been carried in a medicine bag? It doesn't sound implausible, but what are the clues? Magic powder topping? Is there any further info? Hello

[meteorite-list] Coloma, CA

2012-04-30 Thread Marc Fries
Howdy ladies and gents I have an important update for the Coloma fall. This may be my last major update, but I think y'all will like it. For the record, a 10-20 kg CM chondrite would be about a quarter-meter in diameter. Salivating yet? I am.

[meteorite-list] SW desert meteorites

2012-04-30 Thread E.P. Grondine
Hi all - The battle with the virus appears to have been won. My apologies to all who had their time wasted with it. Given the behavior of some people, I really don't want to speak publicly about this. Perhaps privately with some of you in Tucson next year. That said, perhaps the thing to do

Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma, CA

2012-04-30 Thread Guenther
Hi Marc, I want to say thank you so much for your work. I appreciate that you put so much effort into this particular fall and I hope that this will be a first of many detailed analysis from Marc Fries! On that note I wanted to say that I have tipped your PayPal jar. After downloading your

Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma, CA

2012-04-30 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
I completely agree with Abe. Where is this tip jar as I would like to contribute as well? Mendy Ouzillou On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Guenther abe.guent...@mnsi.net wrote: Hi Marc, I want to say thank you so much for your work. I appreciate that you put so much effort into this particular

Re: [meteorite-list] Coloma, CA

2012-04-30 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
Never mind, found it on the home page and made my donation. Again, big thanks for your efforts. Mendy Ouzillou On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com wrote: I completely agree with Abe. Where is this tip jar as I would like to contribute as well? Mendy Ouzillou On

[meteorite-list] Tissint wanted

2012-04-30 Thread Steve Witt
Greetings List, Looking for a specimen of Tissint ~ 1 gram in size (similar to a  Pultusk Pea) !00% fusion crusted. Please contact me off list with what you have available. Thanx, Steve   Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ __ Visit the Archives