Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Francis Graham
Ruben Garcia poses a line of questions that can be carried further. What is the legal definition of a meteorite? I know I cannot sell oranges labeled as apples. It is now possible to send an amateur rocket higher than 62 miles; such happens now at the annual Black Rock NV launches sponsored by

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2014-04-08 Thread valparint
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Murchison Contributed by: R. Mark Elowitz http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpodmain.asp __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Ford
IMHO - This should most likely be called 'Earthite'. A whole new class of rocks distinct from meteorites, which so far we don't have any of (unless anyone knows different!?). Or they could just be known as Tektites, since that is essentially what the consensus is on Tektites. Though I would

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi, According to Alan E. Rubin Jeffrey N. Grossman: A meteorite is a natural, solid object larger than 10 µm in size, derived from a celestial body, that was transported by natural means from the body on which it formed to a region outside the dominant gravitational influence of that body

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Ruben, We call other planetary ejecta meteorites, so Jim On 4/7/2014 10:25 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote: Interesting question. It's probably not a meteorite if you define a meteorite as a solid piece of debris, from such sources as asteroids or comets, that originates in outer space and

[meteorite-list] Meteorite Link of the Week #3 : Chondrules and their Origins by King

2014-04-08 Thread Galactic Stone Ironworks
Meteorite Link of the Week #3 : Chondrules and their Origins by King (http://ads.harvard.edu/books/chto/) Here is an online version of the classic text on chondrules by Dr. Elbert A. King. While some of the material is now considered somewhat dated, it still an informative read for any

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
Yes, Alan and I would call this object a real meteorite, but not tektites, which never escaped from Earth's gravity well. It's a bit of a stretch and model dependent, but in a way, lunar meteorites may be considered as this type of meteorite. Jeff On 4/8/2014 7:18 AM, Peter Scherff wrote:

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
... well, on second thought, it's too much if a stretch since nothing of the original texture and mineralogy suggesting an Earth origin remains in lunar meteorites... so scratch that. On 4/8/2014 1:38 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote: Yes, Alan and I would call this object a real meteorite, but not

[meteorite-list] AD- Nice Auctions Ending This Evening

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Hupe
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Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
OK, so some questions regarding the definition: 1) What would be considered an artificial body? 2) I am 99.9% sure that the word itself refers to the meteorite (as opposed to the body on which the meteorite lands). Correct? Mendy Ouzillou From: Jeff Grossman

[meteorite-list] CK meteorites and magnets

2014-04-08 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Hello, list. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if CK class meteorites are typically attracted to a rare-earth magnet? Thanks. Michael in so. Cal. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list

Re: [meteorite-list] CK meteorites and magnets

2014-04-08 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi Michael, Yes they are attracted to rare earth magnets. Some CK meteorites display free iron. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Mulgrew Sent: Tuesday, April 08,

[meteorite-list] CK meteorites and magnets

2014-04-08 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello Michael and List, Michael inquires: Hello, list. I was wondering if anyone could tell me if CK class meteorites are typically attracted to a rare-earth magnet? Thanks. The answer is yes, Michael. I just held several of my CK meteorites to a strong magnet and they were all attracted to

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
If a fragment of Alderaan hit the Death Star, it would be a meteorite. Oh wait, this was not transported by natural means! Well, you get the idea. Yes, itself is the meteorite. Jeff On 4/8/2014 3:17 PM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote: OK, so some questions regarding the definition: 1) What would

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Alan Rubin
Yes, the word itself refers to the meteorite (or, more properly, the meteoroid) and an artificial body would be a spacecraft of some sort. Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics University of California 3845 Slichter Hall 603 Charles Young Dr. E Los Angeles, CA 90095-1567

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Carl Agee
How do you know that ureilites, aubrites, acapulcoites and the many achondrite-ung are NOT exploded bits of parent planets destroyed by alien warfare in our solar system a long time ago? In which case they would not be meteorites. Carl * Carl B. Agee Director

[meteorite-list] CK meteorites and magnets

2014-04-08 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Peter writes: Some CK meteorites display free iron. Most CK meteorites have no FeNi metal but magnetite instead. This shows that CK chondrites are highly oxidized. Of course, magnetite is strongly magnetic! DaG 275 (CK4/5), for example, is one of those CKs that Peter refers to, as it has trace

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Peter Scherff
Hi, There is little in the world more enjoyable than a mischievous scientist. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Carl Agee Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 4:29 PM To: Jeff

[meteorite-list] Test - Please ignore

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Hupe
Just testing. Best Regards, Adam __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Ed Deckert
Mendy, Could a possible answer to your point #1 (What would be considered an artificial body?) be silicone implants??? Ed - Original Message - From: Mendy Ouzillou ouzil...@yahoo.com To: Jeff Grossman jngross...@gmail.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, April

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jim Wooddell
So, let's say there is one.a chunk of hematite. What tests could be performed to 1. Prove it was in Space. 2. Originally from Earth. ??? Radionuclide? Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Alan Rubin
The more general question is how we would distinguish a terrestrial meteorite found on Earth 9as opposed to one found in the lunar regolith). Unless it was an observed fall, the rock would have to have a fusion crust for us to notice it in the first place. It would have been exposed to cosmic

[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity Update: March 28 - April 1, 2014

2014-04-08 Thread Ron Baalke
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Further Southwest on 'Murray Ridge' - sols 3617-3621, March 28, 2014-April 01, 2014: Opportunity is exploring 'Murray Ridge,' part of the west rim of Endeavour Crater. On Sol 3617 (March 28, 2014), the rover

[meteorite-list] Images From Curiosity Mars Rover Include Bright Spots

2014-04-08 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-108 Images From NASA Mars Rover Include Bright Spots Jet Propulsion Laboratory April 08, 2014 [Image] This image from the Navigation Camera (Navcam) on NASA's Curiosity Mars rover includes a bright spot near the upper left corner. Image

[meteorite-list] CK meteorites and magnets

2014-04-08 Thread Matson, Rob D.
Hi Bernd, My experience is that even weathered CK's are strongly attracted to magnets due to high magnetite content. The Lucerne Valley CK pairing group was recognized entirely due to the strong magnetic susceptibility. Cheers! --Rob __ Visit the

[meteorite-list] AD: The Eagle (NEB) has landed! and others too

2014-04-08 Thread Steve Arnold
The Eagle (Neb) has landed! Hey list, here is my first ad in the paid era. Woohoo. I hope I make at least $4 from this effort... Eagle, Nebraska EL6. Rare, very hard to find, cool name. 8 very thin part slices ranging from 0.28g to 0.63g. (Sorry, facebook followers got the bigge ones