Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites - Oriented vs. Orientated: What’s the Difference?

2016-05-09 Thread Martin Altmann via Meteorite-list
Hi, my rusty Latin would say: "oriented" stems from the Latin deponent "oriri" and its participle "oriens, orientis"; and "orientated" was originally derived from the French "orienter" (18th cent.) (which would be in Latin "circumspicere" = to look around). Therefore, I guess, you have in

Re: [meteorite-list] grains of sand

2013-11-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Where did this (factoid) originate... Hi Paul, Historically, I suppose, most likely from Friedrich Wilhelm Bessel and Giovanni Schiaparelli. Bessel published in 1836 a theory on the physical nature of comets, postulating that their tails must consist of dust, expelled from the comet and driven

Re: [meteorite-list] Exploring the Solar System in Antarctica (NWA vs Antarctica)

2013-10-10 Thread Martin Altmann
But Jeff! This shall be: The Earth:o And now I hit 36,000 times the space-bar until I reach, almost a football-field wide to the right, the inner boarder of the inner asteroid main-belt. Does it then really matters so much, that an object from out there hits the little letter o more

Re: [meteorite-list] OT NASA websites taken down for Government shutdown

2013-10-03 Thread Martin Altmann
Adam, a silent 12-minute view from outside... To me, as far as I can judge at all, the causes of your crises over there started much earlier. As early as already in the Reagan era, when it started that the middle-class got bled. And further, when the real industry was immolated on the altars of

[meteorite-list] My apology to Mike Farmer

2013-06-09 Thread Martin Altmann
2046). So I end with the necessary: Mea maxima culpa, and stay in silent contrition until I'll be allowed to see the sun again.. Martin Altmann __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] what is a... OT

2013-06-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Paul, Raspberry Tony (Himbeertoni) is a jesting and cuss word of the Austro-Bavarian language. The etymology is absolutely unclear, neither old references are found. Schmeller's Bavarian dictionary of 1827 doesn't know him yet. A Raspberry Tony is a person of very limited intellect, that is

Re: [meteorite-list] what is a... OT

2013-06-02 Thread Martin Altmann
? The undermining of collector confidence. Adam From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com To: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites sold from Europe, not as described

2013-06-01 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Mike and all, it’s really always sad, to experience, what internet did to some, regarding communication, couth and manners. As told yesterday to you, as you are obviously not content with the specimen, we offered you to send in back and to refund you. Your temper and your readiness to doom

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites sold from Europe, not as described

2013-06-01 Thread Martin Altmann
[mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juni 2013 14:23 An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites sold from Europe, not as described If you take Bondoc, the specimen numbers are absolutely consistent with all the numbers of the Huss-Bondocs offered by Geoff

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites sold from Europe, not as described

2013-06-01 Thread Martin Altmann
15:38 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites sold from Europe, not as described Martin, Do you feel a plastic label printed on your home computer qualifies as an American Meteorite Laboratory passport as you write in your email? I can

[meteorite-list] How sweeet!

2013-05-31 Thread Martin Altmann
Wanna have!! A japanese chocolatier is making now chocolate meteorites! From Allende to Yamato! Dirk, what is the price for the set? http://www.rihga.co.jp/osaka/leclat/kiseki.html Best! Martin __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Nickel-iron meteorite used to make 5, 000 year old Egyptian beads

2013-05-30 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Robin, only short remark, that the iron beads from the Gerzeh tombs are of meteoritic origin (due to their high Ni-content), was already stated in 1932 by Gerald Wainwright. Also Buchwald 1975 seems to have them. Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

[meteorite-list] ORANGE fresh Chelyabinsk (was: Two special Chelyabinsk individualswith Brown Lee-side Crust - color-oriented!)

2013-05-29 Thread Martin Altmann
/photos/stevewitt/8870872109/ Back: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevewitt/8870872297/ Steve Witt IMCA #9020 http://imca.cc/ From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 4:03 PM

Re: [meteorite-list] Red(dish) Fusion Crust

2013-05-29 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi, But, then...why don't H chondrites usually form such red fusion crusts? But they do, the example on Svend's page is a Buzzard Coulee, and in literature you read it about Pultusk. This list seems to have a short memory. Well, the specialty here, is that a colour variation in the crust, if

Re: [meteorite-list] Red(dish) Fusion Crust

2013-05-29 Thread Martin Altmann
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Mai 2013 18:02 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Red(dish) Fusion Crust Hola, Looking at his pagethe Buzzard is red to a much lesser extent. Good observation, though -- it makes

[meteorite-list] Color-orientation described by Doell (1887), Tschermak and Rath with Mocs and Pultusk!

2013-05-28 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Fred, Mike, all, that phenomenon oft he red-brownish fusion crust is already described. Herb Raab (asteroid 3184) found that interesting article by Eduard Doell: Two New Criteria for the Orientation of the Meteorites, in Jahrbuch der k. k. geol. Reichsanatalt, 37. Band, 2. Heft (1887), S.

[meteorite-list] (House-AD): Two special Chelyabinsk individuals with Brown Lee-side Crust - color-oriented!

2013-05-27 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello there, we have to share with you a pretty exciting observation. It was here already on the list, that some of you found on the first-pick Chelyabinskis places with a brownish, nevertheless fresh fusion crust. That phenomenon btw. you had sometimes also on a few Tissints, there the brown

Re: [meteorite-list] (House-AD): ORANGE fresh Chelyabinsk (was: Two special Chelyabinsk individualswith Brown Lee-side Crust - color-oriented!)

2013-05-27 Thread Martin Altmann
://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Chelyabinsk_63_55_g_04.JPG http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Chelyabinsk_63_55_g_05.JPG Hmm, shall we sell it too? O.k :-) Your Meteorite House Von: Meteoriteshow [mailto:meteorites...@free.fr] Gesendet: Montag, 27. Mai 2013 17:32 An: 'Martin Altmann'; meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall

2013-05-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Mike, indeed, check the archives, I'm busy. All that exportation-ban-and-all-belongs-to-the-state-blah-blah was based on some administrative orders of the 19th century, where the clerks were advised where to forward meteorites to, if they get hands on, hence touching the ownership-question in

[meteorite-list] Was Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall - short Argentina question

2013-05-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Martin Altmann Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 16:17 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Feb 11, 2012, Qinhai province, Fall Hi Mike, indeed, check the archives, I'm busy. All that exportation-ban-and-all-belongs-to-the-state-blah-blah was based on some

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

2013-05-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi boyz, maybe my old price guide of the season 2000/2001 is helpful? I compiled it then from 92 offerers from the web and from snail-mail offers. It's inflation adjusted for the year 2011. You find it in the German forum (you don't have to be a member or logged in, to use the Price guide)

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Meteorite May Fetch $160,000 At Auction

2013-05-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Oops, forgot a shergottite: Sayh al Uhaymir 005 SHER 930.56$/g (930.56 )1 Best, Ma -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Martin Altmann [mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 23. Mai 2013 00:39 An: 'meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com' Betreff: AW

[meteorite-list] House-Pedigree-AD: Large Nininger Bondoc (244g) superb Nininger Estherville Indivdual (111g) with AML-Labels

2013-05-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear Collectors, today we want to accelerate especially the heartbeat of the lovers of documented historic specimens, in setting up for sale two of such, which would be without doubt also very remarkable, if they wouldn't be accompanied by their passports of provenience, the labels of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Guesstimate on number of meteorite collectors.

2013-05-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Don, let me share, what I learned (after a couple of years as a fulltime dealer). To answer your questions: Number of serious collectors (until they will have repaired the broken cable under the Atlantic, never got such a poor echo on unbeatable offers..) is world-wide 12 (twelve). Number

Re: [meteorite-list] Ebay, Websites and State Taxes

2013-05-07 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jim, Adam, Jason, Sires.. Danger Mouse can't shut his mouth, whenever he hears over the pond the whining about taxes. Maybe you could take the following not as derision, but as a consolation to calm your worries, when I now demonstrate, how the taxdues situation is for the various German

[meteorite-list] House-AD: A Wonderful Specimen for The Eyes and The Hearts !

2013-04-30 Thread Martin Altmann
Good Morning everybody. The Meteorite House loves such ads, where it hasn't to write lengthy explanations: http://kuerzer.de/Ganplanet1 The Dark Planet is floating through the iron spaces. Surrounded, as we see here better, by his satellites: http://kuerzer.de/Ganplanet2 What it is? A

[meteorite-list] House-AD: Gan Gan is gan, eh: gone (Consolidation iron?)

2013-04-30 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello again, short update: Don't be sad - the early bird ate already the Gan Gan. Many thanks! Perhaps, to console you, we should remind you on a no less excellent iron specimen in the same price category, which has missed your attention, cause it was covered by Ukrainian cosmic debris. The

Re: [meteorite-list] Glenn Huss

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Peter, the Huss-numbers starts for the different Wellmen as follows: Wellman (a) H12.xx Wellman (b) H19.xx Wellman (c) H39.xx Wellman (d) H52.xx Wellman (e) H277.xx Best! Martin (PS: You have an email with another concern from me in your inbox)

Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

2013-04-19 Thread Martin Altmann
. That would bring the big historic institutional collections in hard troubles). Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Count Deiro [mailto:countde...@earthlink.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 19. April 2013 04:55 An: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Altmann
Sorry, (apart from this adding up at least as much as the meteorite laws Anne defends), please don't do it like Anne did. Turkey is known for more than ten years to have made series of arrests for the same reasons. Turkey is very popular in Europe for beach holidays and family vacations (cause

Re: [meteorite-list] Uh! Oh!

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Count, maybe you could ask the consul again, to give you the respective law? Decisive is the Law No. 2863 of July 21, 1983 on Conservation of Cultural and Natural Property (as last amended by Law No. 5835 of February 4, 2009 and Law No. 5917 of June 25, 2009) Here it is in English version:

[meteorite-list] House-AD: In Honor of Vesta - Dreampiece (only AHOW-an) and Dreambits

2013-04-08 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear collectors, the Meteorite House crew is of the opinion, that in all that Chelyabinsk-hustle it would be unfair to neglect one of our all favorite luminary; Goddess Vesta - now where the Dawn spaceprobe said farewell to her (what a picture!):

[meteorite-list] House-AD: The Meteorite House sells World's Most Beautiful Iron Meteorite

2013-03-27 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello World, in its unbearable modesty The Meteorite House pushes on the Olympus its throne closer to Hephaestus' in giving you today the great privilege to have access to the last fullslices of the fractal iron NWA 7335. NWA 7335 IS the most beautiful and most spectacular iron among the 1074

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk at White House today

2013-03-26 Thread Martin Altmann
They are mentioned in the bible: Acts 19,35: (Paul in Ephesus) And when the town clerk had quieted the crowd, he said, “Men of Ephesus, who is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is temple keeper of the great Artemis, and of the sacred stone that fell from the sky? Amen

Re: [meteorite-list] A Bunch of Irregular Stones I Found (+How I Think They May Have Originated)

2013-03-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Hmmm Peter, If you wanted to help, you might have suggested why a folded portion of an outer layer of stone, revealing an inner layer of a different color, is common on non-meteorites, such as slag, O.k. I help you. But vice versa. 1. Meteorites don't have layers. For layers you need in 1st

[meteorite-list] Happy Birthday Dirk Ross!

2013-03-21 Thread Martin Altmann
Happy Birthday to our bolide-reporter N°1, Dirk Ross, Tokyo! Dirk himself... http://kuerzer.de/DaDirk ...and in his office http://kuerzer.de/DaDirkhisoffice Best! Martin __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Alan, If I do remember correctly, stones falling from space was blasphemous ...no, don't believe in movies. Don't forget, that throughout the whole Middle Age's until into the 1500s in Europe the collector, keeper, translator, sponsor, communicator and instructor was the clergy. (and also

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils inFireballFragments

2013-03-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Conte! Brother in Faith, shred much of civilization's core religious theologies.. billions of our fellow homonids the fear that their belief systems are losing the battle to scientific discovery I don't know, why so many should believe, that the existence of extraterrestrial life would

Re: [meteorite-list] Astrobiologists Find Ancient Fossils in FireballFragments

2013-03-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Were you in Kerala? Fred, NEVER drink from the Red Rain again! (huh it's so spooky, I think inside my extraterrestrial life form (aka The Cat) are living terrestrial organisms...) Purple Rain, purple rain... Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

Re: [meteorite-list] Fwd: sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-08 Thread Martin Altmann
before you could get booted? I forget. Jason On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi Jason, Uff, slowly you seem to understand, what others smarter than we both got already from the 1st posting on. I say: - Your material has a different

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-07 Thread Martin Altmann
Ach Jason, you didn't get the point yet. All you need to do, in my opinion, is to mark your two Martians as unclassified, to replace NWA 7034 and NWA 2975 in your menu side bar and in the titles of your descriptions and ads by NWA , and you can call them possible Martians (or the subtype of

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Altmann
knowledge. Cheers! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Jason Utas [mailto:meteorite...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. März 2013 09:29 An: Michael Bross Cc: Martin Altmann; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-05 Thread Martin Altmann
: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Jason Utas Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. März 2013 02:08 An: Martin Altmann; Meteorite-list Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite Martin, All, Personal jibes aside

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Martin Altmann
recognizable to bother. Regards, Jason On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Hi Jason, no offense, but only a remark. You're always pretty fast, when it's about blaming sellers to be dishonest or fraudulent. In my personal opinion that doesn't fit

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-04 Thread Martin Altmann
. Jason On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:22 AM, Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de wrote: Yes, Yep, Yeah Jason! You forget always, how old I am.. A more proper answer would have been: Thank you for bringing it to my attention, I'll correct it. I remember that in my active time in the IMCA

Re: [meteorite-list] sharp protrusion from an iron meteorite

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jason, no offense, but only a remark. You're always pretty fast, when it's about blaming sellers to be dishonest or fraudulent. In my personal opinion that doesn't fit directly well together with some offerings on your webpage. For instance some of the Martians, there it is not directly clear

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Black Market (Weather Channel)

2013-03-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi yo, I wonder, why authors of such articles never mention, that the participants in that black market are extraordinarily simple minded people. Sittin as a hermit retreated in a cell in the Schaeftlarn monastery trying to get my annual tax declaration ready within less than 4 weeks, I asked

Re: [meteorite-list] Interactive map of all known meteorites (Guardian data blog)

2013-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
And Kloster Schäftlarn has wrong coordinates, it lies a little to the South of Munich. - A couple problems. I suppose you mean the Meteoritical Society, not the Meteorological Society, since we are talking about meteorites not weather. Also, there should be a red dot in

Re: [meteorite-list] Doug Schmitt's Talk at TEDxVancouver on 21st October 2012

2013-02-07 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi, maybe it would make more sense to address Mr.Schmitt personally? To ask him, to make his homework first, before he gets up on the golden soap box. It seems to me, that after a full dozen of years, he still hasn't read yet the laws, he interpreted in his paper he had published then. The

[meteorite-list] WG: AD: Largest Imilchil Selection (New Iron Meteorite)

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Mike: http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Imilchil_30_82_g_%2001.JPG http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Imilchil_30_82_g_%2002.JPG http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Imilchil_30_82_g_%2003.JPG Tons of Neumann Lines, a lot of schreibersite (large crystals down to rhabdites). Thus either

[meteorite-list] European Meteorite Artifacts

2013-02-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Good day, you haven't always to visit to the American natives, the Inuit or the old Pharaohs for such stuff: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu//full/2004M%26PSA..39..151K/151.000.h tml Now I know, why never a photo of the bracelets and the axe was available, they were interim lost. Though

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Martin Altmann
But, Mike, other things became remarkably cheap. Imagine, you'd have to do all your e-mail traffic in form of paper letters, and if it's urgent to pay a.. a... a telegram. full stop. Or to print your assortment lists and to send them by mail out. Oops sorry, to type them first by typewriter and

Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international = crazy increase!

2013-01-28 Thread Martin Altmann
for the Burj Khalifa from!! -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Galactic Stone Ironworks [mailto:meteoritem...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Montag, 28. Januar 2013 18:35 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] OT: USPS price increase: international

Re: [meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16% of world's meteorite finds in 2011

2013-01-27 Thread Martin Altmann
But it was reported also here on the list, that in the Farmer/Ward trial the court decided that the mining decree wasn't violated? Btw. I can't find the decree anymore on web for free. Only for buying at 80$ tststs strange country, where you have to pay first to know, whether you act

Re: [meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16% of world's meteorite finds in 2011

2013-01-27 Thread Martin Altmann
The real question is - what exactly does the Omani law(s) state Hi Mike, Perhaps the IMCA knows? Look: http://www.muscatdaily.com/Archive/Oman/IMCA-seeks-clarity-over-laws-on-mete orite-trade It's obvious to all how Oman is viewing the meteorite market now. I assume like in any other

Re: [meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16% of world's meteorite finds in 2011

2013-01-27 Thread Martin Altmann
be caught dead using this baby-talk in the field. Happy Hunting, Adam - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Oman contributed 16

[meteorite-list] FCM: AD-add: New Imilchil-iron Budget-Individuals

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello there, well, in some cultures the new week starts on Saturday (and we will be good boysgirls and will be quiet the necessary following days) but the initial Ad is already sold out and we were asked for more of the new iron recovery. So excuse us, that we post now additional specimens.

Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 7034

2013-01-26 Thread Martin Altmann
Hmmm then maybe Maghrebinite ? :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Gesendet: Samstag, 26. Januar 2013 23:48 An:

[meteorite-list] FCM: AD: The Brand-New Iron Meteorite Find Ilmichil !

2013-01-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear community, The FCM is delighted to introduce firstly to this list the most recent iron find; delighted, because the recovery of a reasonably rich iron meteorite, having produced so many specimens that a lot of collectors can be satisfied, is a fairly rare event. As brand-new this meteorite

[meteorite-list] FCM: AD: Thin Sections Super Special Sale - Meteorites Impactites 33$ each !! (no matter whether achondrite or chondrite, find or fall!!)

2013-01-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear Fans of the FC Meteorite House, and all, who still want to become a fan. We launch today a really respectable special sale of thin sections (TS) at unrivaled, low prices. An offer, which is so fantastic, that we don't have to write many words. We all know, who is the largest supplier of

[meteorite-list] FCM: AD: 33$-Thin-Section-Supersale - Update Addendum

2013-01-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Please accept out apologies for posting a second time. But the TSses are going so fast, although many of you are just having their morning coffee (btw. had we ever mentioned here, that we created some cool Henbury-mugs?), that it became necessary to update the offer to avoid complexity and for

Re: [meteorite-list] Some Meteorite Realities and Other Interesting Meteorite Web Pages

2013-01-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi, from the practice I'd like to add a most important point to the Meteorite Reality Checklist: 60 If an expert tells you, that your rock is no meteorite, then: Believe him! :-) Martin Some Meteorite Realities http://meteorites.wustl.edu/realities.htm

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day

2013-01-04 Thread Martin Altmann
they are not native to Earth. Ouch, Anne, cat-piano... Does that mean a paradigm shift in the IMCA rules? Really no offense intended, though at least the German collectors are waiting since last August for a definite clarification how to apply the CoE in that respect. Would be nice...

[meteorite-list] AD: FCM: Come, Play with Us! Wonderful Meteorite Jigsaws Top Trumps !!

2013-01-03 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear Friends, the FC Meteorite House had had such a really sweet idea, which will mellow even the grumpiest cosmic codger and presents to you today for the first time his: Meteorite-Jigsaws! A fun for the young, the young at heart and the old; a fine gift, to transport your passion; also to

Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-03 Thread Martin Altmann
Had we these Poyets already? Kool: Fig 1. http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/XM/XM10/XM10012/XM100 12377.jpg Fig 2. http://imagecache5d.allposters.com/watermarker/17-1738-8CY3D00Z.jpg ??? Martin __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-03 Thread Martin Altmann
von Martin Altmann Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Januar 2013 03:12 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall) Had we these Poyets already? Kool: Fig 1. http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lookandlearn-preview/XM/XM10/XM10012/XM100 12377.jpg Fig 2

Re: [meteorite-list] T-shirt (and French Fall)

2013-01-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Bernd, all... Not to slow the enthusiasm, but if you know the iconography of 19th popular astronomy books, it is quite unlikely, that that engraving depicts a real fall, or even an eyewitness impression, as we are used to know from e.g. the Sikhote-Alin, Hraschina or Boguslavka paintings.

[meteorite-list] AD: FC Meteorite House presents: The Fabulous Thomson Structure Ballpen Set !

2012-12-31 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear Community, in these magic hours between the years it is the right moment for the FC Meteorite House* to light the newest banger from the freshly opened Club shop: The Fabulous Thomson Structure Ballpen Set! http://www.meteoritenhaus.de/img/Stifte_01.jpg Three ballpens (black paint)

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Altmann
is because there's the chance that if they're passed, they *could* be made more stringent in the future. However, since the current wording doesn't affect me, I don't mind it. All of this adamant nay-saying seems a bit much. Jason From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Date: Sun, Dec

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Altmann
, I don't mind it. All of this adamant nay-saying seems a bit much. Jason From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de Date: Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Hi Fred, Artifact would

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy (Thar she blows!)

2012-12-03 Thread Martin Altmann
Yep, were hard times then, so they were for meteorite hunters. Here Mike you see Tashtego, Starbuck, Captain Ahab and Ishmael hunting the White meteorite. http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1271/995914327_613befae01.jpg Watch out, what will happen! Here, Rob L. found that horrible testimony... be

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi there Nick, But note what Schmitt has written on page B6, paragraph 3: Most Western European countries... have civil codes laying down principles of law under which meteorites are owned by the landowner as long as they have acceded to the land. An astonishing statement. As much as I

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy (Swaziland)

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Btw. by far the best of the coolest meteorite laws I found in Swaziland! Wait it's only a little bit complicate, but let me give you a summary: - Collecting of meteorites in National Parks is forbidden. - The removing and exportation of a meteorite needs the permission of the National Trust

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Altmann
I think, you're beating the wrong ones. These, you're thinking to be responsible due to their media presence are not so mighty, to create new laws and regulations. Btw. look it up in old magazines, even Saint Nininger was posing with meteorites in the press and as a hunter, where of course also

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Altmann
the legality of and limits to casual and commercial collection. Courts have long established that meteorites belong to the owner of the surface estate. - Original Message - From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Sunday, December 2

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Nachricht- Von: h...@meteorhall.com [mailto:h...@meteorhall.com] Gesendet: Montag, 3. Dezember 2012 00:32 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] BLM and Meteorite Recovery Policy Martin, is coffee a total cost of $7 per pound or are the taxes $7

Re: [meteorite-list] NASA SETI Misappropriation of Tax Payer Funds

2012-11-03 Thread Martin Altmann
Wow, Adam!!! That sounds like a paradise to me! Where can I get my green card? The blimp-fun - it's a relatively cheap promoting affair, so what? Sincerely yours, The German income-, VAT- (for my EU-customers), business-, church-, solidarity-, interest- --TAX- mandatory social security other

[meteorite-list] Library III - Historic Books Articles on special topics

2012-10-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Voilá, for those afficionados, who're collecting items to combine shipment, not having to wait so long, here already the next list of offers. Some true benchmark publications among them. Note btw. that at the modern online-article-services you have to pay often more for new scientific papers

Re: [meteorite-list] Library III - Historic Books Articles on special topics

2012-10-23 Thread Martin Altmann
to the one ad per week rule?  It seems there are a few who disrespecting those who follow the courtesy rules! From: Martin Altmann altm...@meteorite-martin.de To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:58 AM Subject: [meteorite-list

[meteorite-list] AD: Library IV (and last) - Historic Impactica, Bolidica, Meteoritic Miscellana

2012-10-23 Thread Martin Altmann
...and finally the last delivery of the antiquarian sale. All items will be shipped from Monday on after the Munich Show. Thank you for participating patience, All the Best! Martin General: 47) NORDSTROEM T.Nordstroem: Om Meteoriter. Laesning foer Folket N°43, 1871 18 pages. Good. 15$

[meteorite-list] AD: Library II - Monographs on other falls finds.

2012-10-22 Thread Martin Altmann
Dear bookworms, Here already the next bundle of historic meteorite literature on single finds and falls. Again many first publication about the respective meteorite among them. (From yesterday still available are: 2) ANNAHEIM 3) BEAVER CREEK 4) BLITHFIELD 6b) CULLISON 12b) PERSIMMON CREEK )

Re: [meteorite-list] A silly question about South Korean Meteorites

2012-10-05 Thread Martin Altmann
Korea isn't a white spot on the meteorite-map at all. Look here: http://koreamet.kopri.re.kr/ Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Galactic Stone Ironworks Gesendet:

Re: [meteorite-list] BLM Law vs Type Sample

2012-10-02 Thread Martin Altmann
to provoke the intellectual minds.. My intellect is anyway too small for these new rules. Wasn't it so in your country, That until now an Irving, a Bunch, a Wasson, a Garvie and so on... and nobody else, determined a rock to be a meteorite? So in any case, when you go on BLM land, in first

Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

2012-07-20 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi, maybe the gang can ask here, for the actual legislation in place and its very wording, to end the speculations? http://www.portal.gsi.gov.in/gsiDoc/pub/dgco-contact-details.pdf Best! Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Altmann
UNESCO-1970 is not a law, but it is a convention to harmonize national laws of the signing states. Meteorites can be protected only by national laws. (Like e.g Namibia, Canada, Australia, South-Africa did). That is given in the convention's text. Schmitt's information on Argentina is outdated.

Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info

2012-07-19 Thread Martin Altmann
. Juli 2012 19:55 An: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] International Laws related to meteorites link - good info Martin, Welcome back to posting. You have been missed. You said; The information on India doubtful This law is spelled out very specifically and includes the words

Re: [meteorite-list] Sutters Mill - mass and stone count

2012-05-02 Thread Martin Altmann
Yep Count, Sodom Gomorrah. No. Old men say, benchmark won't be that fall, benchmark was already Tagish Lake. Had arrived then at a before totally unseen and strange price. It happened after Tagish, that more and more observed falls were priced in a way, which nobody believed to be possible. From

Re: [meteorite-list] Met Bulletin Updates - 2 NWA's and a Nova, and a Question regarding Nomenclature

2012-04-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Jeff, should Paris then not rather have been named a Nova too than a Paris? (From the Bulletin Database: Paris Unknown location (..) History: This sample was in an auction box lot bought by Jean-Jacques Corré at the Hotel des Ventes in Paris. The box was part of the estate of Jean Simon

Re: [meteorite-list] What is Chladni's book on 18 meteoritefalls title?????? (Stuetz)

2012-04-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Yes he did, he tried also to find for Chladni the four of the five stones or irons of Miskolcz, which had fallen in 1559 and which were transported to the Vienna collection, but he was unable to locate them. Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von:

Re: [meteorite-list] Man Claims Rockhaven Meteorite Find

2012-02-26 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi there, we shouldn't forget to applaud the Canadians here. While in former times they applied their laws in the strictest possible manner, not using the flexibility the laws allow, they meanwhile have profoundly changed the opus moderandi to a positive and for the generation of new and old

Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite shipment stopped in Argentine Customs. Probably Campos

2012-02-24 Thread Martin Altmann
We are talking large money here! Hmmm, Count, rather they talk large money... Sales value in USA 1.4 - 3.1 million USD. 2,395kg found... Would make a Campo-price per kilogram of 585$ - 1295$ ayyy !!! Mike G, your turn: All sales of Campo Martin -Ursprüngliche

Re: [meteorite-list] provenance

2012-02-15 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Doug, it was meant for fun, not for the silly discrimination which meteorites would be better than others. Though for an extreme purist of provenance and pedigree, those new finds could be indeed ideal. Cause he is then the founder of the pedigree, able to control the growth of the

Re: [meteorite-list] provenance

2012-02-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Hmm Don Doug, if you have such concerns about provenance, you could easily avoid the sorrows. A meteorite is born, when it is published in the Bulletin. So be the second link in the chain. Buy NWAs from the main mass holder given in the Bulletin and Oman and new U.S.-desert finds from the

Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. The most significant fall of this century?

2012-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
Yep, also the modelling by Gladman, that 5% of the ejecta from Mars will fall on Earth, but that 50% of the rocks released from Earth/Moon will be collected by the Earth-Moon-system again, tells something about probabilities, but not about the absolute frequency, how often an impact on Moon and

Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?)

2012-01-14 Thread Martin Altmann
2012 19:11 An: Martin Altmann Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Tata-Foumzgit Martian Fall. (Why no lunar falls? and freshest lunar?) Hi Doug, Martin, and List, I know nothing of the mathematics and modeling of meteoroid impact rates, but it strikes me

[meteorite-list] What's going on in the background?

2012-01-09 Thread Martin Altmann
Oops! http://www.wga.hu/art/r/raphael/5roma/1/07folig1.jpg ☺ Martin __ HAPPY HOLIDAYS!! Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Some interesting meteorite falls of the last two centuries

2011-11-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Hi Doug, As far as I know, the couch was auctioned off - brought only a couple of hundred dollars (cause da Captain was sleeping). Btw. if talking about export laws we have urgently to clarify those of New Zealand, as in past I saw that even IMCA board members had commended the SchmittMcEwans

Re: [meteorite-list] Some interesting meteorite falls of the last two centuries

2011-11-24 Thread Martin Altmann
Little addendum, And what happened of the one that fell in New Zealand? Anyone knows the Ellerslie stone was purchased by the Auckland War Memorial Museum at then approx. 30,000USD. http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/55/recent-acquisitions And there it still is, so maybe someone could ask the

Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer???

2011-11-23 Thread Martin Altmann
Of course, Andi. And if that happens there: http://www.holger-melms.de/Ha06Uenden.jpg they will celebrate a ..? Martin -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Im Auftrag von Andreas Gren

Re: [meteorite-list] Hammer hammers!

2011-11-23 Thread Martin Altmann
The history of hammers? Hits for hammer used for meteorites as,well, as hammers, per year of this list: 2001 zero 20022 (Captain B. commercial) 2003 24 (mainly Park Forest dealers) 20044 (Worden article) 2005 10 (mainly jokes about the hammers concept) 2006 103

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