Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-25 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Speaking of tired old shtick waaah waaah waaah. On 11/25/14, bill kies via Meteorite-list wrote: > This is the same old shtick. Just another way to confuse what has to be > learned the hard way, by educating yourself before considering the purchase > of ANY "meteorite". > > > Who or what

[meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-24 Thread bill kies via Meteorite-list
This is the same old shtick. Just another way to confuse what has to be learned the hard way, by educating yourself before considering the purchase of ANY "meteorite". Who or what is trustworthy? It isn't obvious. This sounds like a case that allows for confusion and defends chaos rather than

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Verish via Meteorite-list
Good Morning Michael, Thanks for taking the time to compose your excellent explanation. It gives not only newcomers to the meteorite market, but all of us, a better appreciation of the perils of pairing (not to mention self-pairing). With best regards, Bob V. > On Sunday, November 23, 201

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Forgive the numerous typos in my previous post - sometimes my fingers move fast than my brain, and I have been known to have that problem in the past. LOL. On 11/23/14, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > Hi Robert! > > I am glad to have this conversation, because I think it can shed some > li

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi Robert! I am glad to have this conversation, because I think it can shed some light on the issues of provenance and authenticity for newcomers who do not yet understand how the meteorite market works. First, I want to emphasize for motive for asking the question was not to show-up or start a f

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Verish via Meteorite-list
Maybe Michael's questions are rhetorical, but I haven't read any answers or replies. After all, in the past others have asked these same questions, and still never any satisfactory answers. But, allow me to answer the question of "how do you guarantee authenticity?", by stating the obvious:

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Martin Goff via Meteorite-list
Hi all, Just wanted to post here as it concerns my post to the IMCA list. My post was basically exactly the same as posted here to the metlist and also on facebook etc. I had posted to all these forums and lists to say i had recently uploaded an article on a recent outreach event that i had attend

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi Jim, That is exactly my point. Look, the last thing I want to do is pick a fight with the IMCA. Been there, done that, don't want to do it again. I buried the hatchet years ago and I wish the IMCA success in their endeavors. When anyone makes a statement that implies that IMCA-sourced speci

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list
Mike, Same goes with Sacramento Wash 005. How many of those have been sold where the dealer has no clue! And they are still being sold as such! No one freaking cares! Jim On 11/23/2014 10:01 AM, Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list wrote: Hi Jim and List, Please do not take this

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Please do not take this as a knock at the IMCA, because it is not intended that way, and I certainly do NOT want to experience the old "shoot the messenger" syndrome again. I accidentally left out the word "NOT" in the above sentence! LOL. On 11/23/14, Galactic Stone & Ironworks wrote: > Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Hi Jim and List, Please do not take this as a knock at the IMCA, because it is not intended that way, and I certainly do want to experience the old "shoot the messenger" syndrome again. How exactly does anyone "guarantee authenticity" in regards to meteorites? Let's look at a typical example tha

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-23 Thread Jim Wooddell via Meteorite-list
Hello all! The IMCA has but one purpose, does it not? How can you possibly argue that??? It's for collectors, dealers and sellerspretty basic mission, Authenticity . Nothing wrong with that! And any kind of outreach by the IMCA very much appears to be a mistake in perception. The IMCA is

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-22 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks via Meteorite-list
Ray Watts said : "I have been told in the past that out reach is over reach for the I.M.C.A." Whoever said that, has no business being in the IMCA or any other group that claims to be supportive of education and outreach. Walk the walk or get the hell out. My two cents. Also, agree 110% with w

Re: [meteorite-list] [IMCA List] Martin Goff's Out Reach

2014-11-22 Thread Gary Fujihara via Meteorite-list
Aloha Ray, cc: IMCA, meteorite community at large Lets not lose hope or lay blame. Although Martin’s email was published 18 hours ago, it is the weekend, and most people may be out enjoying the days off with family and friends. That IMCA has not responded is disheartening. You have struck on so