From: "Robert Juhl" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "E.P. Grondine" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: AD593-594 comet Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 16:19:20 +0800
Hello E.P.: As a member of CCNet, I have followed your occasional postings. Recently, I discovered documentary evidence in medieval East Asian texts for the apparition of a comet in late 593 and early 594. This comet is distinct from the comet that appeared in January 595. I am also able to show an apparent periodicity, as this comet appeared 5-6 times at regular intervals in the sixth and seventh centuries. I am preparing to submit an article on my findings to an astronomy journal. One segment of the article will cite documentary evidence from western sources suggesting the apparition of a comet in late 593 and early 594. This is intended to back up my evidence from Asian sources. In researching western documents, I found that you had already covered much of the ground in a posting to CCNet in your 2002 CCNet ESSAY: IMPACT AND THE END OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE IN THE WEST ( http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/ccc/ce082202.html ). I would like to invite you to dust off your notes, undertake some deeper research, and contribute a segment on documentary evidence from western sources in my article. In that case, you will be listed as a co-author. Please let me know what you think. By the way, I have a website at http://www2.gol.com/users/bartraj/goddessindex-1.html. I hope you find it interesting. Best wishes, Robert Juhl in Penang ( [EMAIL PROTECTED]) >=============================== > >On 10/20/06, E.P. Grondine <[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>Hi Bob - >> >>I'd love to work on this with you but - >> >>1) I had a stroke in April 2005, and am really pretty beat right now, especially for precise, demanding work >> >>2) I have been working with Native American materials >>for the last several years now: see my book - >> >>Man and Impact in the Americas >> >>over at amazon.com >> >>What energy I do have I am putting into the 15th >>century impact mega-tsunami in the Pacific. If you >>know of any relevant Chinese or Japanese records >>between say 1421-1480 please let me know - perhaps we >>could go to some type of partner arrangement, but >>given the danger presented by the impact hazard I >>feel the only responsible thing to do is to share >>information via the CC as quickly as possible - I plan >>to head to the Bishop Museum Library around mid-Feb >>next year. >> >>According to his CC note for his new book, >>Bailey has recoverd an impact record >>for 1385 CE, so watch out... >> >>I took a brief look at your research, and it is >>impressive - Given the stroke damage, I will need to >>spend more time on it. But I need to warn you, that >>at least for western and midieval records, using any >>"accepted" dating is always risky. With these >>records, you're nearly always better off looking for >>physical activity synchronisms (such as comet >>appearances) across cultures, then closely re-examing >>the "accepted" dates. >> >>all the best - >>Ed >From: "Robert Juhl" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "E.P. Grondine" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: AD593-594 comet >Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 08:02:31 +0800 > >Hello Ed: > >Sorry to hear about your stroke. Actually, I was looking forward to some sort of relationship; some data I have on meteors 565-617 listed in the History of the Sui Dynasty may also be of interest. > >Since you are interested in impacts that killed people, the entry for 9 December 615 states: "A meteor, big as a 5-peck measure, fell in the encampment of Lu Mingyue (an insurgent of the time), destroying his assault chariot and crushing more than a dozen persons to death." > >This is one of a minor peak in sightings of large meteors 615-617 (when the dynasty ended). The peak probably continued for a few more years, but I >haven't yet looked into the list of sightings in the following dynasty. > >------------------- > >Getting back to my inquiry, could you suggest any colleague who would be capable of looking into western sources to assess the possibility of a comet in late 593 and early 594? >By the way, I have your latest book, Man and Impact in the Americas. Many thanks for it and your other researches. > >Best wishes, > >Robert Juhl on Penang Hi Rob - With your permission, I'll condense our correspondence and forward it to the meteorite list, where you have your best chance of meeting up with someone with the expertise you seek. Or you could subsribe to the meteorite list yourself and post your request there. Either way, that's exactly where you have your best chance. The way I see it, the key problem right now is trying to pin down the impact tsunami which destroyed the Chinese fleet sometime in the 1400's CE. all the best, Ed Hello Ed, Yes, please condense our correspondence and forward it to the meteorite list. I'll subscribe too, if you let me know which meteorite list you mean. Best wishes, as always, Robert Juhl on Penang __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
