Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Richard Montgomery
Bernd, perfect summary. Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Bernd V. Pauli" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Hello All, We had a similar discussion many, many years ago (September 2001). Here

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Malvin Bishop Jr
rence. Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Malvin Bishop Jr To: meteorite-list Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 3:51 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? This is what I was referring to in my previous email regardin

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Bernd! Doesn't sound like that discussion came to any conclusion. I think there was one in 2003 too! I think this discussion has been going on since prior to 1966, ref the abstract link I posted. I do see striations and typically the slickensides I am familiar with are typically larger, n

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Malvin Bishop Jr
It's hard to take a picture of because it is so reflective, but it it quite a beautiful feature of this fall. Sean. -Original Message- From: Sergey Vasiliev Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:16 AM To: Michael Mulgrew Cc: meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slick

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Farmer
I found a very nice Chelyabinsk while running to the truck after finding a 1.2 kg stone. I saw it flash in the sun, a half stone with silver slickenside up, it was like a mirror. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2013, at 4:36 PM, "Bernd V. Pauli" wrote: > Hello All, > > We had a

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
Hello All, We had a similar discussion many, many years ago (September 2001). Here's a short overview of our results: Summary: - broken surface is covered with glossy striations - slickensides are identified by shiny mirror like surfaces on an otherwise rough rock - they are the product of fa

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Anne Black
, 2013 2:08 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? Welp, I just need to see one up close. But in the mean time here is a paper on the subject that may be of interest... http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1966Metic...3...31D Jim On 5/21/2013 10:26 AM, Michael

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Welp, I just need to see one up close. But in the mean time here is a paper on the subject that may be of interest... http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1966Metic...3...31D Jim On 5/21/2013 10:26 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: Jim, there are shock veins and slickensides. They are not the same thing.

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Graham Ensor
hi Bobto my knowledge the slickensides most likely form in the original asteroidal body in space (large collision or impact) and then are left in the small stones after the atmospheric breakup. Graham On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Bob King wrote: > Michael and all, > I forgot to add that

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Farmer
Jim, there are shock veins and slickensides. They are not the same thing. They are result of shock but not melting like the full melt veins are. I have hundreds of pieces with slickensides. I am traveling so I can't show photos. Perhaps later. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 21, 2013,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Jim Baxter, And, that is what I am not seeing. I'am going to be a very hard sell on the term slickensides until I see something that scientifically supports it and why it is there. Do the threads actually appear and are they threads?? In my mind, the coming apart part would not create a sl

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Bob and all! When I think slickenside, I think of a polished surface where something rubbed on the surface to polish it. I don't see this in any of the pictures. My samples do not have thisso I guess I will have to just buy some more!!! Very interesting. What do you guys suppose did

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Not really a good focus (try full screen!) but at the end you can see both: slickensides and crust over it on the smaller surface. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVnerr2giL0&feature=youtu.be Reagrds, Sergey On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > Chelyabinsk is an incredible me

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Bob King
-Original Message- From: Sergey Vasiliev > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:16 AM > To: Michael Mulgrew > Cc: meteorite list > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes? > > > Hi All, > Look at the two pictures of the same stone. >

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Farmer
Chelyabinsk is an incredible meteorite with so many lithologies and variations, it is almost unlike any meteorite I have ever seen. You can have 5 pieces side by side and swear all are from different meteorite falls. Some pieces are hardly recognizable as meteorites. Many pieces exhibit amazing

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi Jim, There is a slickensides there, but very difficult to make a picture of it because of reflection. Best regards, Sergey On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Jim Wooddell wrote: > Hi Sergey, > > Those are nice pictures. > I see the secondary, I do not see slickenside. > > I decided to take a loo

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Sergey, Those are nice pictures. I see the secondary, I do not see slickenside. I decided to take a look at all the samples for sale on Ebay. There is a fellow there selling "slickenside" fragments. Even with those, I say look closer. I imagine you have been very busy! That's a good th

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Sean T. Murray
photo...) It's hard to take a picture of because it is so reflective, but it it quite a beautiful feature of this fall. Sean. -Original Message- From: Sergey Vasiliev Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:16 AM To: Michael Mulgrew Cc: meteorite list Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] C

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Sergey Vasiliev
Hi All, Look at the two pictures of the same stone. This is a fresh broken side with black shock veins on a very light matrix: - http://sv-meteorites.com/gallery/chelybinsk/02.jpg And this side is secondary crust over the shock vein: - http://sv-meteorites.com/gallery/chelybinsk/01.jpg You can

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Bob, My piece is just over 5g, but it was broken off a slightly larger piece, probably less than 50g before it broke. Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Bob King wrote: > Michael and all, > I forgot to add that even small 2-3g Chelyabinsks show this same > slick, grey material

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Bob King
Michael and all, I forgot to add that even small 2-3g Chelyabinsks show this same slick, grey material coating their broken faces. Can slickensides form on rocks this small? Bob On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Michael Mulgrew wrote: > Bob, Jim, List, > > I have a small piece that displays the sl

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Bob, Jim, List, I have a small piece that displays the slickenside in 3 distinct locations; it's definitely not secondary fusion crust. Looking forward to hearing more on the subject. Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Jim Wooddell wrote: > > Hi Bob and all! > I might be wron

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Bob King
Hi Jim, Thanks for your reply. No, what I'm seeing is different from the secondary fusion crusts I typically see, and it's nearly identical on many pieces. The broken faces have a planar, slickenside texture and appear coated with gray material that's either fusion crust or as Blaine thinks, an exp

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Malvin Bishop Jr
Hi Bob, Jim, and list - One of my Chelyabinsk specimens shows a feature where it appears to be fractured along a weakened shock vein/point where melt had filled the vein before the actual splitting apart. The melt is still very evident covering a large portion of the fresh exposed matrix after

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Bob and all! I might be wrong in assuming, but your slickensides sounds like you are attempting to describe secondary fusion??? We have lots of evidence in various meteorites where they broke apart for whatever reason at the weak boundaries. For example, Franconia area meteorites (some) break

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - slickensides or shock planes?

2013-05-21 Thread Bob King
Hi everyone, Many pieces of broken Chelyabinsk specimens display what appears like fusion crust over slickensides, but is that what it really is? I've talked with Blaine Reed and he thinks we're seeing blackish shock veins (planes really) where the meteorite split along a line of weakness. He even

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-16 Thread Graham Ensor
Excellent report Robwish I could have made it out therebad timing for me. Thanks for sharing the adventure. Cheers, Graham On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Rob Wesel wrote: > It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. > > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/news/chelyabinsk.

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-15 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com
Great report, excellent reading, much appreciated! Cheers Svend > Rob Wesel hat am 15. Mai 2013 um 01:51 geschrieben: > > > It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. > > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/news/chelyabinsk.htm > > Rob Wesel > -- > Nakhla Dog Meteo

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-15 Thread Matthias Bärmann
15, 2013 1:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/news/chelyabinsk.htm Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteori

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Unbelievable, those are some amazing stones. So much better that they were recovered than waste away out there. Thanks for sharing. Michael On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Michael Farmer wrote: > http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/29494159@N00/ > Couple of photos of my 830 gram find. > Michael Far

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Mulgrew
Fantastic report, sounds like a trip of a lifetime. Congrats to everyone who made finds! Now where can we see a pict of Farmer's 800 grammer?! Michael in so. Cal. On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Rob Wesel wrote: > > It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. > > http://www.nakhlad

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Dave Gheesling
Epic :) Dave www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wesel Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:52 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Roman Jirasek
Awesome story. Wish I went! These are the emails you don't want to delete. Good work guys. Cheers, Roman Jirasek -- From: "Rob Wesel" Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:51 PM To: "Meteorite List" Subject: [meteorite-list] C

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread wahlperry
Hi Rob, Thanks for the great story. Sonny -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel To: Meteorite List Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 4:52 pm Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn.http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Jim Baxter
So cool! Great adventure, story well told! Jim Baxter On 5/14/13, Rob Wesel wrote: > It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. > > http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/news/chelyabinsk.htm > > Rob Wesel > -- > Nakhla Dog Meteorites > www.nakhladogmeteorites.com > www.fa

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Farmer
Wonderful! I'm just too tired to do it:) I already miss it having just read that. I miss my hedgehog and Dennis and Svetlana. Nicest helpers I've ever met. I'm happy they made a lot of money. It was an honor to hunt with you. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "Rob

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Frank Cressy
Great summary even without popcorn!  Thanks for sharing. Frank - Original Message From: Rob Wesel To: Meteorite List Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 4:52:01 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn.

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk trip report is up

2013-05-14 Thread Rob Wesel
It's a 12 pager. Put the kids down and grab some corn. http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/news/chelyabinsk.htm Rob Wesel -- Nakhla Dog Meteorites www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music ma

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-05-12 Thread Michael Brooks
arrives. >> http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html >> >> Sincerely >> Don Merchant >> Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders >> www.ctreasurescwonders.com >> IMCA #0960 >> - Original Message - From: "Michael Brooks&q

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Sales-- Today versus Yesterday!

2013-04-27 Thread Shawn Alan
___ From: Don Merchant To: Don Merchant ; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Don Merchant Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Sales-- Today versus Yesterday! - Original Message - From: "Don Merchant" To: Cc: "Don

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Sales-- Today versus Yesterday!

2013-04-27 Thread Don Merchant
- Original Message - From: "Don Merchant" To: Cc: "Don Merchant" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 1:47 PM Subject: Chelyabinsk Sales-- Today versus Yesterday! Hi List. Just curious and was pondering a question. This in particular to well known/better known Dealers and regular Sellers

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Sales-- Today versus Yesterday!

2013-04-26 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. Just curious and was pondering a question. This in particular to well known/better known Dealers and regular Sellers of meteorites. It seems over the last month an increase in Dealers and Sellers (known, or at least more familiar by names) are selling specimens of Chelyabinsk on eBay an

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk inclusions

2013-04-26 Thread Maurizio Eltri
I had also thought about the rust, but they are not liquid, in fact they are pretty tough, but I can scratch them with the tip of a needle. Thanks Maurizio Eltri At 15:15 26/04/2013, plagiok...@arcor.de wrote: Hello, this is rust. Small rust patches can also be shiny. Sometimes these shiny s

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-26 Thread Jim Wooddell
; Or is my english wrong? > > - Original Nachricht > Von: Jim Wooddell > An: Meteorite List > Datum: 26.04.2013 04:11 > Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of > Melts. > >> Hi Mendy, >> I read it i

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk inclusions

2013-04-26 Thread plagioklas
: 26.04.2013 13:32 Betreff: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk inclusions > Hello to all. > > I have a small Chelyabinsk specimen > composed mainly of impact melt, which > shows small inclusions in the surface > of glassy appearance and red color. > does anyone know what th

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk inclusions

2013-04-26 Thread Maurizio Eltri
Hello to all. I have a small Chelyabinsk specimen composed mainly of impact melt, which shows small inclusions in the surface of glassy appearance and red color. does anyone know what they are? http://www.astrovenezia.ne

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-26 Thread plagioklas
should have the name Impact melt. Or is my english wrong? - Original Nachricht Von: Jim Wooddell An: Meteorite List Datum: 26.04.2013 04:11 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts. > Hi Mendy, > I read it in Meteo

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-25 Thread Jim Wooddell
l > To: Meteorite List > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of > Melts. > > Hi All! > Just a point of information. I just read Dr. Rubin's paper, Multiple > melting in a four-layered barred-

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-25 Thread Jim Wooddell
siderite or a "Troilite nodule" in an iron meteorite. >> >> Good question Mike. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeff >> >> -Original Message- >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Jim Wooddell
ite or a "Troilite nodule" in an iron meteorite. >> >> Good question Mike. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeff >> >> -Original Message- >> From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com >> [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentr

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Shawn Alan
://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken To: 'Meteorite List' Cc: Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts. Definitely IMB al

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Jeff Kuyken
f Galactic Stone & Ironworks Sent: Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:42 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts. Hi List, We keep hearing about the "IMB nodules" that have been recovered - these have an all-black lithology with n

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Michael Farmer
h both > lithologies). > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Farmer > To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks > Cc: Meteorite List > Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 6:55 pm > Subject: Re: [met

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Anne Black
lithologies). Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer To: Galactic Stone & Ironworks Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 6:55 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts. The meteorite i

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Michael Farmer
The explosions in the atmosphere destroy the meteorite, it does not affect the makeup other than destruction or making fusion crust. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2013, at 7:00 AM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" wrote: > Hi Mike and List, > > Ok, so these nodules were present i

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi Mike and List, Ok, so these nodules were present in the meteoroid before it fell to Earth. The body contained these nodules, and they separated from the body during the mid-air explosions. That is where I was confused. I thought that the nodules were created during the explosions. Stupid qu

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Michael Farmer
The meteorite is an IMB. These nodules being harder than the matrix were separated into individuals when the meteorite exploded. They are like thousands of Cat Mountains. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2013, at 6:41 AM, "Galactic Stone & Ironworks" wrote: > Hi List, > > We kee

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - IMB or SMB? The nomenclature of Melts.

2013-04-24 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Hi List, We keep hearing about the "IMB nodules" that have been recovered - these have an all-black lithology with no chondrules, shock veins, or grey matrix material. However, these nodules were not created on impact. Had there been such an impact, we would have a visible crater and the nodules

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-08 Thread M come Meteorite
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[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk question

2013-04-07 Thread Garry Stewart
Quick question list. Is Chelyabinsk attracted to light weight magnets? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk meteorite sales--Where are the Hunters!

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Farmer
I just came from there, what are you talking about? Perhaps the 3 feet of snow covering them all impedes the hunt for the moment. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:38 PM, "Don Merchant" wrote: > Hi List. I guess I am surprised here with the Chelyabinsk event. It has to be > one

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk meteorite sales--Where are the Hunters!

2013-04-06 Thread Don Merchant
Hi List. I guess I am surprised here with the Chelyabinsk event. It has to be one of the most historical events in many decades. For sure one of the most media covered meteorite events! My confusion surrounds the fact that less meteorite events (still extraordinary but less covered then the Che

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Farmer
Pretty amazing that I wake up to a threatening email from our favorite "Count" suggesting I "libeled" and "slandered" him, all after he did just that to me by suggesting I use my meteorite sales money to fund girlfriends. If that is not slander and libel, then I don't know what is. Then, minute

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Farmer
Do you mean sort of like when "Count" Diero said I use my meteorite money to send flowers to girlfriends? That kind of slander and Libel? Or did that escape your amazing powers of deduction:) Do you have a problem with me Paul, grab your sack and spit it out or are you now "Count" Diero's sideki

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-06 Thread valparint
What does it mean when one puts a "smiley" after a slander? Paul Swartz p.s. Yes, I know it's actually libel, but slander is the better known term. They are equally vicious. > From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) > > Count Diero, > I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-06 Thread Michael Farmer
sold out. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPad On Apr 6, 2013, at 9:05 AM, wrote: > I could not find Chelyabinsk on your web site. How much are you asking for it? > > Cheers > > Paul Swartz > >> From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) >> >> If you had bought from known dealers you wou

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-06 Thread valparint
I could not find Chelyabinsk on your web site. How much are you asking for it? Cheers Paul Swartz > From: Michael Farmer (m...@meteoriteguy.com) > > If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. > Why do people risk a couple $$$ > Savings? > All of my customer

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-06 Thread Richard Montgomery
- From: "Linda Barany" To: Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 3:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Anne Black
will mail it to you right after the show. Any other questions? Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com impact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Anne Black To: mike ; countdeiro Cc: meteorite-list Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase OK,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Matthias Bärmann
them late than to loose them soon ;-) Best as ever - Matthias - Original Message - From: "Mendy Ouzillou" To: "Linda Barany" ; "met-list" Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 1:05 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk I will say that shipping times

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Mal Bishop
Hi Linda, and Michael - Did you bid or purchase from a seller(s) on eBay? Did it happen to be either a seller called ".a.", or "jevgenijss"? Besides Mike Farmer, I've purchased from both of these sellers more than once (I'm speaking of Chelyabinsk specifically right now) and have had no prob

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
day, April 5, 2013 3:48 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk > >I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner.  I still have not >received the one from Russia and it has been over a month.  I was able to >track >it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destina

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Stuart McDaniel
: Michael Farmer Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 6:57 PM To: Linda Barany Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Customs from Russia is very difficult. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Linda Barany wrote: I received the one

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Farmer
Customs from Russia is very difficult. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 3:48 PM, Linda Barany wrote: > I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not > received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to > track > it as f

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk

2013-04-05 Thread Linda Barany
I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner.  I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month.  I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states internat

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Farmer
e! > > > Anne M. Black > www.IMPACTIKA.com > impact...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Michael Farmer > To: Count Deiro > Cc: Meteorite List > Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase > &g

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Anne Black
mpact...@aol.com -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer To: Count Deiro Cc: Meteorite List Sent: Fri, Apr 5, 2013 1:53 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Count Diero, I wouldn't sell to you if you offered me double. There would be some scam involved:) I d

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Farmer
. > > Count Deiro > IMCA 3536 > > > > -Original Message----- >> From: Michael Farmer >> Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM >> To: Michael Brooks >> Cc: Meteorite List >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase >> >> I

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Gary Fujihara
Pristine perfection. Inquiries welcome. Sent from Gary's iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Michael Farmer wrote: > If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. > Why do people risk a couple $$$ > Savings? > All of my customers and those out known Russian friends

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Don Merchant
Thank you Mike. Be patient! Don - Original Message - From: "Michael Brooks" To: "Don Merchant" Cc: "Meteorite List" ; "Don Merchant" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase Hi Don, thanks I wi

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Count Deiro
nt Deiro IMCA 3536 -Original Message- >From: Michael Farmer >Sent: Apr 5, 2013 11:27 AM >To: Michael Brooks >Cc: Meteorite List >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase > >If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. &

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Brooks
easurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html > > Sincerely > Don Merchant > Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders > www.ctreasurescwonders.com > IMCA #0960 > - Original Message - From: "Michael Brooks" > > To: "Meteorite List" > Sent: F

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Don Merchant
en it arrives. http://www.ctreasurescwonders.com/meteorite_collection.html Sincerely Don Merchant Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders www.ctreasurescwonders.com IMCA #0960 - Original Message - From: "Michael Brooks" To: "Meteorite List" Sent: Friday, April 05, 2013 1:24

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Brooks
Hello Michael and list, Again, the money is not an issue since I paid through PayPal. The reason I took a chance was that I wanted to find a fresh specimen and was willing to take a small risk for a big reward. I felt spending less than $200.00 was worth it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Farmer
If you had bought from known dealers you would have by now, safe and secure. Why do people risk a couple $$$ Savings? All of my customers and those out known Russian friends are happy as can be right now. Michael Sent from my iPhone On Apr 5, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Michael Brooks wrote: >> Hello

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk purchase

2013-04-05 Thread Michael Brooks
> Hello list, I was curious how long it took for some of you to receive your meteorites from Russia? The seller I purchased mine from stated that he sent it to me on March 11, 2013, I have yet to receive it. I want to be prudent and seek council from you before I make the decision to put a clai

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk -Mike Farmer

2013-04-03 Thread Don Merchant
quot; Cc: "Meteorite List" Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk -Mike Farmer Hi Mike, All posts I have seen from you in the last couple of weeks have Come from your IPhone. Does that mean you are still in Russia and Coming back to

[meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk Display with Shattered Window Glass

2013-04-03 Thread Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Here is my personal specimen (not for sale!) - http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj24/Meteoritethrower/chelya-display.jpg I also have several grams of fragments, crumbs, and specks that are available as micromounts. If interested, contact me off-list. :) I got the display from Mike Farmer and

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk -Mike Farmer

2013-04-03 Thread Michael Blood
Hi Mike, All posts I have seen from you in the last couple of weeks have Come from your IPhone. Does that mean you are still in Russia and Coming back to the US soon like Santa with a big bag full of Chelyabinsk Stones? Collectors want to know. Michael PS: If that's the cas

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-31 Thread Chris Spratt
So if they land on the Earth meteors become Meteorites, whether or not they hit anything besides the ground! I guess the one found on Mars is a Marseorite! Chris. Spratt Victoria, BC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Mete

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-31 Thread Mark Grossman
ite List'" Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers Hi, Sorry that link didn't work. Try this one: http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1992Metic..27...28M Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteori

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammer?

2013-03-31 Thread Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu,
At least, it then becomes a "hammered stone". Or, according to Goethean anvil! Zelimir -- Prof. Zelimir Gabelica Université de Haute Alsace ENSCMu, Lab. LPI-GSEC, 3, Rue A. Werner, F-68093 Mulhouse Cedex, France Tel: +33 (0)3 89 33 68 94 h...@meteorhall.com a écrit : I have heard a few we

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Mine

2013-03-30 Thread Stuart McDaniel
My new acquisition.. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.437009509713569.1073741830.12135728072&type=3 * Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society IMCA #9052 Sirius Meteorites Node35 - Sentinel All Sky http://spacerocks.we

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammer?

2013-03-30 Thread hall
I have heard a few well known meteorite dealers say that they have taken a hammer to a meteorite to break it up, so as not to lose any material, as opposed to cutting the meteorite. So, does it then become a true "Hammer Stone"? (:-) Myself, I love the history of each meteorite. That is why I pr

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammer?

2013-03-30 Thread Shawn Alan
m: Michael Blood To: jpbrock...@aol.com; Meteorite List Cc: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammer? Hi Juris & others interested,         Mike Farmer tells me hundreds if not thousands of stones Have been recovered from roofs (but mixed in w

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-30 Thread Jodie Reynolds
o to the bar and get really > hammered. > Phil Whitmer > Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Blood" > To: "Met. Peter Scherff" ; "Met. Anne Black" > ; ; "Meteorite List" > >

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-30 Thread Joshua Tree Earth & Space Museum
Peter Scherff" ; "Met. Anne Black" ; ; "Meteorite List" Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers Goethe: Politician, writer, philosopher - NOT a meteoriticist. On 3/30/13 1:02 PM, "Met. Peter Scherff" wrot

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-30 Thread Peter Scherff
March 30, 2013 4:33 PM To: 'Michael Blood'; 'Met. Anne Black'; delle...@aon.at; 'Meteorite List' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers Hi Michael, He is quoted in the Meteoritical Bulletin so he must be a meteoriticist. : ) http://articles.ads

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers

2013-03-30 Thread Peter Scherff
4:11 PM To: Met. Peter Scherff; Met. Anne Black; delle...@aon.at; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Not Hammers Goethe: Politician, writer, philosopher - NOT a meteoriticist. On 3/30/13 1:02 PM, "Met. Peter Scherff" wrote: > Hi, > > Accordin

Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammers for sure.

2013-03-30 Thread Mal Bishop
Michael, and all - How would you know beyond a CERTAIN reasonable doubt that it is a "hammer" by the common accepted definition as followed by most ( at least on this list)? With all of the media coverage from the Internet to cable television programming, there are so many more people that ar

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