Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies: Clarification

2009-09-10 Thread Jeff Grossman
Original Message - From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies: Clarification Tracy writes: "Oog. I agree with Bernd; classification is currently a mess." Sorry, I forgot the inverted com

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies: Clarification

2009-09-10 Thread Jeff Kuyken
From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:22 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies: Clarification Tracy writes: "Oog. I agree with Bernd; classification is currently a mess." Sorry, I forgot the inverted commas => " ... " Those were

[meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies: Clarification

2009-09-09 Thread bernd . pauli
Tracy writes: "Oog. I agree with Bernd; classification is currently a mess." Sorry, I forgot the inverted commas => " ... " Those were Jeff's remarks / comments! Bernd __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@mete

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread tracy latimer
> To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > From: bernd.pa...@paulinet.de > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 19:03:24 + > Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies > > Hello All, > > I'm really glad that Jeff G. responded because I didn't know whethe

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Grossman
Those 1998 remarks still hold true, except for one thing... we've mostly weeded out the classifications that used a slash for breccias. There are still some in the MetBull database, probably, but mostly they're fixed. Breccias are still a complete mess and nothing has changed. Jeff bernd.pa

[meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello All, I'm really glad that Jeff G. responded because I didn't know whether or not I should mention his thoughts of about 10 years ago (!) when I asked him about hyphens and dashes and the confusion they cause! I was inquiring about DaG 140, then classified as an H3.9-6. Mon, 07 Sep 1998,

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Grossman
meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:47 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies Hello Dave, Alan, and List, Here is a paper that may be of intere

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Alan Rubin
have a cosmic-ray age peak that matches one of the main ones for L or LL or if it is unique. This remains to be done. Alan - Original Message - From: "Dave Gheesling" To: ; Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodie

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Dave Gheesling
allingrocks.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of bernd.pa...@paulinet.de Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 12:47 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Ch

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Alan Rubin
] Chondritic parent bodies Hello Dave, Alan, and List, Here is a paper that may be of interest with regard to LL chondrite parent bodies: Dixon E.T., Bogard D.D. and Garrison D.H. (2002) 40Ar-39Ar Chronology of LL Chondrites (Lunar and Planetary Science XXXIII, 1114.pdf). They even discuss

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Richard Kowalski
s an amateur and is named for my late father) -- Richard Kowalski Catalina Sky Survey Lunar and Planetary Laboratory University of Arizona Tucson, AZ 85721 --- On Wed, 9/9/09, Alan Rubin wrote: > From: Alan Rubin > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodi

[meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread bernd . pauli
Hello Dave, Alan, and List, Here is a paper that may be of interest with regard to LL chondrite parent bodies: Dixon E.T., Bogard D.D. and Garrison D.H. (2002) 40Ar-39Ar Chronology of LL Chondrites (Lunar and Planetary Science XXXIII, 1114.pdf). They even discuss *three* models: 1. The onion-s

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Alan Rubin
t the model. As is clear, the situation is not yet resolved. Alan Rubin - Original Message - From: "Dave Gheesling" To: "'Meteorite List'" Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies All, Pete's q

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Alan Rubin
they share some of these characteristics with their colleagues. Alan Rubin - Original Message - From: "Meteorite-Recon.com" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 6:21 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies Hi Jeff, others, certainly true as far as th

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Dave Gheesling
Behalf Of Jeff Grossman Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 9:00 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies I'm not sure why you thought there was a definition that requires L5 and L6 chondrites to come from different parent asteroids...

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com
Hi Jeff, others, certainly true as far as the majority of L-chondritic material is concerned. But Dave’s question is in so far justified as there are several exceptional L-chondrites that show particular differences in their lithology compared to other L-chondrites. If my information on this su

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff Grossman
I'm not sure why you thought there was a definition that requires L5 and L6 chondrites to come from different parent asteroids... there isn't. Questions like this are open to investigation. Isotopic data show that the different petrologic types of L chondrites all experienced a major shock ev

Re: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-08 Thread Dave Gheesling
ssage- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Dave Gheesling Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:40 PM To: 'Meteorite List' Subject: [meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies All, Pete's question re: pallasit

[meteorite-list] Chondritic parent bodies

2009-09-08 Thread Dave Gheesling
All, Pete's question re: pallasites reminds me of one I've been meaning to throw out to the group for a while. I believe that, by definition, L6's come from one parent body and L5's, say, come from another. It's clear why breccias might simply be an association of the two. But I've seen cross se