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>From: countde...@earthlink.net
>Sent: Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM
>To: cyna...@charter.net
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B  Orbital Bomber
>
>
>Hi Darren and List,
>
>By passive in this application...it is meant that the device does not emit 
>electronic counter measures. This weapon is powered to hypersonic (ok it's a 
>stretch to call it "cosmic") speed by a simple rocket motor using an oxidizer 
>and JP8 and guided into a relatively short and steep trajectory to the target 
>while protected from heat and pressure using ablative and mass sacrificing 
>technology. I understand that the mass of the impactor is depleted uranium and 
>it will definitely penetrate the atmosphere and hit the target substantually 
>intact at an extremely high Mach number. I hope video and BDA will become 
>available of this so we could use it in meteoritic cratering comparisons.
>
>Count Deiro
>IMCA 3536     
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Darren Garrison <cyna...@charter.net>
>>Sent: Apr 23, 2010 11:36 PM
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] X37B  Orbital Bomber
>>
>>With all due respect to your old pilot friend, that sounds like a steaming 
>>pile
>>of crap.
>>
>>Meteoids enter the atmosphere at a range of 11 to 72 KM/s (according to this,
>>which excepts the Encyclopedia Britannica)
>>
>>http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/glossary/meteor.html
>>
>>At the lowest of LEOs, satellites travel at less than 8 KM/s, slower than the
>>slowest meteoids (and of course, the higher the orbit, the lower the 
>>satellite.)
>>You could be generous and call that "cosmic velocity", I suppose.  But even 
>>so,
>>that passive impactor would act just like a real meteoroid-- it would lose all
>>of it's velocity and finish it's fall going at nothing more than the normal
>>terminal velocity it would have if you dropped it from a high-flying plane.  
>>To
>>retain "cosmic velocity", it would have to be HUGE.  Remember the space 
>>shuttle
>>Columbia burning up on reentry?  Remember any of the big fragments of it
>>destroying any towns?
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:40:27 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
>>
>>>List,
>>>
>>>I post because this unmanned orbital bomber uses passive meteor like weapons 
>>>to destroy terrestrial targets at cosmic velocities. I was formerly Director 
>>>of Aviation Facilities for the Hughes Tool Company in the late 60's and an 
>>>old pilot friend with high field grade USAF and NASA connections sent the 
>>>communication below. 
>>>
>>>The X37B using an Atlas V booster was sent up yesterday. I was told by 
>>>another NASA type that five years ago somebody in the Pentagon responsible 
>>>for USAF weapons development saw an "It Came From Outer Space" movie and got 
>>>the idea to use man made impactors to destroy targetslike the errant 
>>>asteroids in the movie. NASA had this hypersonic craft already under 
>>>development, transferred it to the USAF in 2006, and re-engineered it to 
>>>carry multiple impactors and guidance. Star Wars has arrived.
>>>
>>>Count Deiro
>>>IMCA 3536   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Farouk,
>>> 
>>>I believe you are referring to the X37B reusable space plane that was 
>>>launched on the 21st four hours after DARPA's Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle 
>>>went up. 
>>>I'm not briefed in on either so can talk freely. However, it's like relating 
>>>the contents of a letter I haven't read.
>>> 
>>>We  have long needed something like the Global Hawk, but lingering in space 
>>>and having additional capability; something that can take stuff up, maneuver 
>>>while up there, place satellites, pick up satellites and move them or even 
>>>bring them home. GPS and com satellites are a huge requirement as well as 
>>>all the secret stuff that's required to be up there. Originally, the space 
>>>shuttle was going to do these things but it never panned out. 
>>>Reportably the 37B will be capable of station times of 9 months or longer. 
>>>Don't see why it couldn't eventually stay much longer since they don't need 
>>>to take a supply of M&M's to reward the navigators.
>>>Also, there's the weaponization angle. From space, one only needs to hit a 
>>>target: no explosive required. 
>>>A pound or so of depleted uranium dropped from space and goodbye battleship, 
>>>building or whatever.
>>>A hypersonic ball, dropped from space and landing on the centerline of 
>>>Tehran airport would send a stark message.
>>> 
>>>A Mach 20 Hypersonic Vehicle could strike anywhere in the world without 
>>>warning. On the test shot they are maneuvering hypersonic and that's just in 
>>>the "Glide" phase. What is cleverly not said here is how fast was it going 
>>>under power? They will complete the test by dunking it into the ocean at 
>>>more than 13,000 miles an hour. A wet sponge at 13,000 miles per would hit 
>>>like an atomic weapon. 13,000 mph = about Mach 17   
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>Shack
>>>
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