Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-13 Thread mexicodoug
challenge the sense of equity for some... Best wishes and Great Health, Doug -Original Message- From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:51 pm Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? I know Jay, but I

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-13 Thread Martin Altmann
Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 13. April 2008 10:21 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin A. wrote: PS: And if you don't know any dealers yet, buy strictly IMCA. Hi

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Martin Altmann
von Mark Grossman Gesendet: Samstag, 12. April 2008 06:36 An: Dark Matter; Mike Bandli Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin, Mike and all, I think you bring out an important point. You mentioned that you contacted the Humboldt Museum

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Mark Grossman
, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi too, some thoughts... Of course it would be desirable if a cut of a meteorite could be tracked and would be documented without gap back to the very day, when the chunk in space desired to fall on Earth. But I think with old

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dark Matter
Martin A. wrote: Point 1: And on the other hand it would be a matter of price. Theoretically, only theoretically, a dealer could let throw each historical specimen into a microprobe and could do the same with a specimen in a famous museums collection and could compare the values, to

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Gheesling
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dark Matter Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:32 PM To: Mike Bandli Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Mike and all, I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on ebay, and I look

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Mark Crawford
One thing which I think the IMCA could do to give a lead here is some kind of new collectors' guide. I joined about a year ago, not long after I started collecting, as I correctly worked out that I'd want to trade on some of my specimens at some point, and wanted to do as much as possible to

[meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Norbert Classen
Dear Mark, dear Dave, and All, Actually, we (the IMCA Board of Directors) have been watching these auctions, and discussing all sorts of implications during the last few weeks. However, we can't do much if the seller is no IMCA member. If it was an IMCA member we would have taken immediate action

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Martin Altmann
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Martin, I understand your points, and I am not tracking back meteorites in the hope of getting something for nothing. I am doing by best to track back specimens that are selling for hundreds of dollars per gram, and I am making my best

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Wendy Piatek
Auftrag von Mark Grossman Gesendet: Samstag, 12. April 2008 06:36 An: Dark Matter; Mike Bandli Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin, Mike and all, I think you bring out an important point. You mentioned that you contacted the Humboldt

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Mike Bandli
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:32 PM To: Mike Bandli Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Mike and all, I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on ebay, and I look forward to reading something

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Gheesling
, 2008 12:35 PM To: 'Mark Crawford'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Dear Mark, dear Dave, and All, Actually, we (the IMCA Board of Directors) have been watching these auctions, and discussing all sorts of implications

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Martin Altmann
@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Martin Altmann Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin -- the problem they are all referring to is the questionable practices of Bob Evans. I believe he has sold 5-6 different meteorites (that we know of) --that might be imposters--those being-- Zulu Queen---he

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Walter Branch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 11:31 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Mike and all, I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on ebay, and I look forward to reading something

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Gheesling
www.fallingrocks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wendy Piatek Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 12:40 PM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Martin Altmann Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin -- the problem

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dark Matter
Hi Norbert and all, I fully understand and appreciate the IMCA dilemma. However, the scope of the specimens in question has now moved into both into the collections of IMCA members and IMCA dealers. Therefore, I believe this is now a serious IMCA issue since we have a digital paper trail.

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Gheesling
Ditto. -Original Message- From: Dark Matter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Mark Crawford; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Norbert and all, I fully

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Martin, and All, Yes, we are aware of that - and that's our major concern. We've also been doing some independent research on the specimens/meteorites in question, and if you would like to add to our database, please contact us on or off list. Kind Regards, Norbert -Ursprüngliche

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Mike Miller
: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi too, some thoughts... Of course it would be desirable if a cut of a meteorite could be tracked and would be documented without gap back to the very day, when the chunk in space desired to fall on Earth. But I think with old falls that wish

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread AL Mitterling
- From: Martin Altmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi too, some thoughts... Of course it would be desirable if a cut of a meteorite could be tracked and would

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Moni Waiblinger
Hello All, Norbert wrote:[Yes, we are aware of that - and that's our major concern. We've also been doing some independent research on the specimens/meteorites in question, and if you would like to add to our database, please contact us on or off list.] Just be sure if it is still related to

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dave Gheesling
, 2008 2:07 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hello All, Norbert wrote:[Yes, we are aware of that - and that's our major concern. We've also been doing some independent research on the specimens/meteorites in question, and if you

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Mark Grossman
PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Martin -- the problem they are all referring to is the questionable practices of Bob Evans. I believe he has sold 5-6 different meteorites (that we know of) --that might be imposters--those being-- Zulu Queen---he stated he procured

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Norbert Classen
Dear Moni, and All, And last if someone does have been mislead and the person is not a member of the met-list or the IMCA, I still hope the info would be listed on the sites, so we will all be aware of the dealings. The IMCA will certainly do so as soon a we have solid proof. That's not

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-12 Thread Dark Matter
Hi Mark and all, Speaking of Mooresfort: http://www.meteorite-times.com/Back_Links/2005/May/Accretion_Desk.htm Cheers, Martin On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Mark Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can add Mooresfort to the list of samples that Bob Evans has offered for sale

[meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-11 Thread Bob Evans
I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot selling junk as meteorites on ebay Case in Point : http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites-and-collectables_W0QQitemZ110242519960QQihZ001QQcategoryZ3224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Response to my inquiry regarding authenticity : Dear

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Grossman
scholar without them any day. Mark Grossman - Original Message - From: Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mike Bandli
@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot selling junk as meteorites on ebay Case in Point : http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites-and-collectables_W0QQitemZ110242519960QQihZ00 1QQcategoryZ3224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-11 Thread Dark Matter
: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? I guess it amuses me when I get a response from some idiot selling junk as meteorites on ebay Case in Point : http://cgi.ebay.com/meteorites-and-collectables_W0QQitemZ110242519960QQihZ00 1QQcategoryZ3224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Response

Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ?

2008-04-11 Thread Mark Grossman
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] It was intuition ? OK ? Hi Mike and all, I too am curious about some of the rare meteorites I see advertised on ebay, and I look forward to reading something that demonstrates the authenticity on these historic piece beyond the somewhat unnerving statement