Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Göran Axelsson
Hi! Nice picture effect. Wish I thought of that. I only made some analyses on the streaked frame and fast switching between pre-streak-post. I don't think it's a meteorite but it would be fun to find out what it is. When I saw the 37 pages on the discussion board I didn't bother read them, but

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Marc Fries
Folks hereabouts on the List seem to like the Bug theory. Too bad. There are lots of reasons why the bug theory is wrong, but here's the most concise one. In the frame that shows the terminal flash (which, in the bug theory, is the bug itself only inches away from the camera and caught

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Chris Peterson
: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Hi, At the moment I start to write this, there are 37 PAGES on the official discussion site for the mystery photo, and I've read ALL of them. A great deal of it is waste because most posters are not reading the other posts and seem to be unaware

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Gore
] To: 'Meteoryt.net' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Hi Marcin, This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically. --Rob

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo No, that explanation is for this photo: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040913.html Peanut .. wrote: Sorry, but isn't the explanation of the photo in the link at the end

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Jonathan Gore
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote: The real explanation is at this link http://space.mit.edu/~lewin/apod/ Yes, that's the link that appears on APOD as the the explanation for a phenomenon in a photo that appeared on APOD a while back. But it is not the explanation for the 12/07/2004 APOD (the

RE: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Charles Viau
: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Hi! Nice picture effect. Wish I thought of that. I only made some analyses on the streaked frame and fast switching between pre-streak-post. I don't think it's a meteorite but it would be fun to find out what it is. When I saw the 37 pages on the discussion board I

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-08 Thread Sterling K. Webb
List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Hi, At the moment I start to write this, there are 37 PAGES on the official discussion site for the mystery photo, and I've read ALL of them. A great deal

[meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Marcin, This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically. --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Meteoryt.net Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically. Peekskill and Nakhla didn't fall straight down either. Peekskill travelled an additional 50 km AFTER ablation had ended. Nakhla was observed to

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Meteoryt.net
- Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nevertheless, I don't think it is a meteorite. Probably just a bug that flew in front of the camera. That would explain the bluriness in the trail. And the 'explosion' would be an overexposure of the bug from the camera flash.

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Peterson
, December 07, 2004 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically. Peekskill and Nakhla didn't fall straight down either

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
The Peekskill fall is not difficult to model. The recovered piece was falling nearly vertically at the end. It traveled 50 km after the end of ablation because at that point its path was nearly horizontal, and it was still at about 3 km/s. But that forward velocity was quickly lost to

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Peterson
] Mystery object in photo The Peekskill fall is not difficult to model. The recovered piece was falling nearly vertically at the end. It traveled 50 km after the end of ablation because at that point its path was nearly horizontal, and it was still at about 3 km/s. But that forward velocity

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
The angle observed for the fireball trajectory is largely unrelated to the angle the meteorite will strike the ground. It is perfectly possible for the impact angle of a meteorite to be in the opposite direction of the entry angle, since the final angle is determined primarily by wind.

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the Peekskill car appears to have been made by something striking largely from above, not at any sort of shallow angle. Peekskill was more

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Park Forest

2004-12-07 Thread Comcast Mail
. Bob Evans - Original Message - From: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo I would argue that determining the angle

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Peterson
Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the Peekskill car

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
Peekskill was only traveling 70 or 80 m/s at impact. I would fully expect it to be deflected by the structure of the car. The relative positions of the exit and entry wounds are probably a poor indicator of the impact angle. The way that the metal of the trunk is folded makes me think that

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread JKGwilliam
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo I would argue that determining the angle of a fall from the sort of dent it makes in a car is far from a precise science! To my own eye, the dent in the Peekskill car appears to have been made by something striking largely from above

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Ron Baalke
Here's a picture of the car with a familiar face. This is something very rare folks...when was the last time you saw Al smiling;-) http://www.nyrockman.com/pages/peekskill-today.htm Thanks for the link. I first met Al in 1993 at the Tucson show, and he was smiling then, and

Re: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo

2004-12-07 Thread Peanut ..
: [meteorite-list] Mystery object in photo Hi Marcin, This series of photos made the rounds a few weeks ago -- it definitely is not a meteorite fall. Simplest reason: it doesn't fall vertically. --Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf