Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-19 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello List: Fun question: Will the "rules" potentially affect whether we can call a Lunar meteorite a planetary meteorite (current use of "Lunar and Planetary" as in LPS, notwithstanding)? How about a Vestoid meteorite?. Also I am really relieved that my objections to Dr. Lebofsky about orbits

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-19 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Oh, OK. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Larry Lebofsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite Mailing List" ; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [meteo

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-19 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Dooh! better rename that one. Jerry Flaherty - Original Message - From: "Darren Garrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:52 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All On Fri, 18 Au

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-19 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Probably lots of time, during which Committee-paced time, more will become clear. Committees will help people settle their minds, adjust, get right with the world... Committees are wonderful things. And this may really be one of those times when we need them, for just the reasons we usually

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:37:34 -0700, you wrote: >history community. These are people who know the issues, who know the science >(the words and concepts are far from arbitrary), I realized something tonight that I knew but for some reason, it hadn't stuck me before: the word "pluton" already has

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Hi Doug: I never thought that I would admit to agreeing completely with Sterling (just kidding), but I am. I have googled Kripke's credentials and I do not see how he would add anything to the committee. As I said before and I will say again, a lot of thought went into the formation of this co

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Lebofsky
As long as Rob Britt quotes me correctly and not out of context, I am happy to be "worked" by him. By the way, there are a good number of "real" astronomers who are making very strong comments about this resolution. I am not sure that I have ever seen so many egos coming out (I trust me and the

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Sterling K. Webb
motives, it's only fair I print an "expose" of my own petty biases... Sterling K. Webb - - Original Message - From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Meteorite Mailing List" Sent:

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread E.P. Grondine
it: the natural inclination of the > Executive Committee > is to postpone. They'll already done that... twice. > And the situation > didn't go away; it got worse. But, rather than > institutionalize the > division, they may want not to have any vote. But > Gingerich seems > to think there will be some vote (and he would know, >

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread MexicoDoug
Darren wrote: "BBC interview with the woman/former girl who named Pluto that I ran across." Doug had written: "further I trust you. If you happen to have the British "girl's" email address sure I'll send a message to further vindicate you and Darren." Hi Darren, if the woman formerly known as th

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Sterling K. Webb
t 18, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All Hi Sterling, you really don't have to disagree with me because you have edited an old message of mine to the point of completely changing its meaning - with a new meaning I disagree with as well.. Here's w

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread MexicoDoug
Hi Sterling, you really don't have to disagree with me because you have edited an old message of mine to the point of completely changing its meaning - with a new meaning I disagree with as well.. Here's what I said: "The IAU Committee has utterly failed by not including a committee member of the

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Sterling K. Webb
ize the division, they may want not to have any vote. But Gingerich seems to think there will be some vote (and he would know, I think). Sterling K. Webb -- - Original Message - From: "MexicoDoug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:37:48 -0500, you wrote: >further I trust you. If you happen to have the British "girl's" email >address sure I'll send a message to further vindicate you and Darren. Sorry to keep on and on about this, but here is a BBC interview with the woman/former girl who named Pluto

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread MexicoDoug
Hello Larry and Darren, OK, I checked your facts and I'll stuff the idea about the Disney character where the Sun don't shine and it belongs. And further I trust you. If you happen to have the British "girl's" email address sure I'll send a message to further vindicate you and Darren. As for the

Re: Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 12:53:50 -0500, you wrote: >P.P.D. Pluto was actually named after the Disney Dog character by a British >child Not only that, but a British child with precognition! (How else could she know that the dog would be named Pluto in the future?) "Pluto is also the name of the Roma

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Larry Lebofsky
Hi Doug: I am not an expert on dynamics, but the center of mass is the center of mass. If you have two objects in orbit (revolve, not rotate) around the center of mass, if one were larger, its orbit would have to be elliptical in order for the center of mass to go outside to inside of it. We a

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread MexicoDoug
"> and the Charon aspect specifically for going too far in essentially > recasting too many small round objects as full-fledged planets. Eventually, > with new discoveries, there would likely be hundreds." Hello Again, The Charon and the "rotating around center of mass outside the larger body (Plu

Re: [meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Darren Garrison
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 09:53:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >For example, brown dwarfs are low-mass stars that fail to produce the >thermonuclear fusion that powers real stars. Interesting side note on this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/5260008.stm __

[meteorite-list] Pluto May Get Demoted After All

2006-08-18 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060818_planet_newprop.html Pluto May Get Demoted After All By Robert Roy Britt space.com 18 August 2006 The effort to define the term "planet" took a fresh twist today as two competing proposals were put forth at a meeting of astronomers in Prague. In one