Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Sterling K. Webb
ubject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite This refers to modeling, not actual observations. Gladman and Coffey (2009) MPS 44, 285-291 calculated that Mercury ejecta could achieve independent orbits and re-accrete to Mercury after several million years. Alan Rubin Institute of Geophysics and

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread Alan Rubin
...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of cdtuc...@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:37 AM To: Alan Rubin; 'Jim Wooddell'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite Alan, You said; "Interestingly, some studies have concluded that rocks

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-09 Thread cdtucson
sage- > From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com > [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Jim > Wooddell > Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:53 PM > To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite > &

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Alan Rubin
:53 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite So, let's say there is one.a chunk of hematite. What tests could be performed to 1. Prove it was in Space. 2. Originally from Earth. ??? Radionuclide? Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jim Wooddell
So, let's say there is one.a chunk of hematite. What tests could be performed to 1. Prove it was in Space. 2. Originally from Earth. ??? Radionuclide? Jim -- Jim Wooddell jim.woodd...@suddenlink.net http://pages.suddenlink.net/chondrule/

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Ed Deckert
Mendy, Could a possible answer to your point #1 (What would be considered an artificial body?) be silicone implants??? Ed - Original Message - From: "Mendy Ouzillou" To: "Jeff Grossman" ; Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Peter Scherff
Grossman Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite How do you know that ureilites, aubrites, acapulcoites and the many achondrite-ung are NOT exploded bits of parent planets destroyed by alien warfare in our solar system a long time ago? In which case

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Carl Agee
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Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Alan Rubin
t: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 12:18 PM To: Jeff Grossman; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite OK, so some questions regarding the definition: 1) What would be considered an artificial body? 2) I am 99.9% sure that the word "itself" refers to the mete

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite Yes, Alan and I would call this object a real meteorite, but not tektites, which never escaped from Earth's gravity well. It's a bit of a stretch and model dependent, but in a way, lunar meteorites may

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Mendy Ouzillou
> From: Jeff Grossman >To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 10:38 AM >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite > > >Yes, Alan and I would call this object a real meteorite, but not >tektites, which never escaped from Earth's gr

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
eoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite IMHO - This should most likely be called 'Earthite'. A whole new class of rocks distinct from meteorites, which so far we don't have any of (unless anyone knows different!?). Or they could just be known as Tektites, since

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jeff Grossman
day, April 08, 2014 3:28 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite IMHO - This should most likely be called 'Earthite'. A whole new class of rocks distinct from meteorites, which so far we don't have any of (unless anyone knows differen

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Jim Wooddell
Hi Ruben, We call other planetary ejecta meteorites, so Jim On 4/7/2014 10:25 PM, Ruben Garcia wrote: Interesting question. It's probably not a meteorite if you define a meteorite as a solid piece of debris, from such sources as asteroids or comets, that originates in outer space and su

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Peter Scherff
08, 2014 3:28 AM To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite IMHO - This should most likely be called 'Earthite'. A whole new class of rocks distinct from meteorites, which so far we don't have any of (unless anyone knows different!?). O

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-08 Thread Mark Ford
l 2014 06:15 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite Suppose a fusion crusted stone is found shortly after a fireball. When examined it shows a celestial age of a few million years and a relatively short formation age. More examination shows it to be a stone

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-07 Thread Francis Graham
Ruben Garcia poses a line of questions that can be carried further. What is the legal definition of a meteorite? I know I cannot sell oranges labeled as apples. It is now possible to send an amateur rocket higher than 62 miles; such happens now at the annual Black Rock NV launches sponsored by the

Re: [meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-07 Thread Ruben Garcia
Interesting question. It's probably not a meteorite if you define a meteorite as a solid piece of debris, from such sources as asteroids or comets, that originates in outer space and survives its impact with the Earth's surface. However, maybe it's a "terrestrial" meteorite. I guess man made spac

[meteorite-list] is it a meteorite

2014-04-07 Thread Chris
Suppose a fusion crusted stone is found shortly after a fireball. When examined it shows a celestial age of a few million years and a relatively short formation age. More examination shows it to be a stone formed on earth, ejected into space and returned here. Is it meteorite or a meteorwrong