Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-17 Thread Jeffrey Shallit
From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous system

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-17 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by none other than Randy himself. I think I may have stumbled on the video you are

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Michael Blood
I think I have to side with Einstein Michael On 10/13/10 5:38 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Mark Ford
In my experience, divining really just doesn't work, trouble is we want it to work, because it seems like it should, but if anyone has ever seen a so called psychic using a pendulum, you can see just what's going on. Positive reinforcement is a powerful thing! Notice how a device that's

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Pete Pete
a meteorite? Cheers, Pete From: c...@alumni.caltech.edu To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:14:35 -0600 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron I don't think Einstein's understanding of magnetic

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Jerry Flaherty
The Classical Geeks?? -- From: JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:44 AM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron Hi Eric, A big Duh!!

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Thomas
On 10/13/2010 7:22 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: If the universe is random, then why is it so orderly and predictable? Because the dice are loaded. (not a joke) Thomas M __ Visit the Archives at

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Martin Altmann
: Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron On 10/13/2010 7:22 PM, JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote: If the universe is random, then why is it so orderly and predictable? Because the dice are loaded. (not a joke) Thomas M __ Visit the Archives

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-14 Thread Chris Peterson
No, I'm sure he believed it. People read horoscopes all the time, as well. That doesn't mean they work. People fool themselves into believing all sorts of crazy stuff. The fact that our brain finds patterns where none exist is the source of superstition! Chris

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:52 -0600, you wrote: If someone out there with a baseball size or larger iron wouldn't mind performing a little test with it I would appreciate hearing back from them on how it turned out. To test what I had in mind you will need to make a couple metal divining

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Michael Murray
Maybe not the best method of locating but they do cross over some things. Water lines, phone lines, power lines, etc. I know they will cross over iron. Just curious if they will over meteoric iron also. On Oct 13, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Darren Garrison wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:14:52

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Chris Peterson
...@charter.net Cc: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron Maybe not the best method of locating but they do cross over some things. Water lines, phone lines, power lines, etc. I know

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Or
I couldn't resist on this one. With all due respect,some of the members of the list need to visit www.randi.org Thanks Darren for telling it like it is. You could win a million bucks from the James Randi Educational Foundation if you can show that divining rods, or any other Hooey can be

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Michael Murray
I respect everyone's opinion on this. I expected there would b quite a few that think the method is BS. I really wasn't looking into this as a way of hunting meteorites. Actually was wanting to know whether or not it works over meteoric iron as another possible method of culling man-made

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:54:10 -0700, you wrote: I couldn't resist on this one. With all due respect,some of the members of the list need to visit www.randi.org Randi himself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtuWymUzz4 The ideomotor effect: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideomotor_effect

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi All, I was in two minds about sharing this with the list as I am usually with Darren on this sort of stuff...but I just had to tell this storyand I am a complete non believer in these sorts of things! When visiting my friend on his farm many years ago we were watching some builders doing

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Kowalski
Interesting story Graham. I'm also not convinced by these claims and have never seen a truly uncorrupted experiment of these claims. The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread e-mail ensoramanda
Hi Richard, Yes I am of a similar mind...not convinced but intrigued. The unexplained in this world is always intriguing and I suppose its what inspires the inquisitive mind, scientist, artist or just plain weirdo to look for their own answer. Keep up the good work, Cheers, Graham On 14

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The closest thing I've seen was broadcast on TV over a decade ago, which I think originally aired in Australia. It was a supposed double-blind experiment run by none other than Randy himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAasVXtCOI I'm

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread John Burch
Good one! Sent from my iPod On Oct 13, 2010, at 17:38, JoshuaTreeMuseum joshuatreemus...@embarqmail.com wrote: I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 20:38:52 -0400, you wrote: I know very well that many scientists consider dowsing as a type of superstition. According to my conviction this is, however, unjustified. The dowsing rod is a simple instrument which shows the reaction of the human nervous system to certain

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Kowalski
...@charter.net wrote: From: Darren Garrison cyna...@charter.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 4:48 PM On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:10:51 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: The closest thing I've seen

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Chris Peterson
This is a lovely example of the logical fallacy called Appeal to Authority. Einstein is no more qualified to offer an expert opinion on this matter than your average Joe. His opinion should not impress anybody. Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Richard Montgomery
Phil, good one, as we embark upon the unkown in the philisophicList, allow me to share my simplistic view: as a human, I can't possibly explain what I'm not capable of explaining, (and will take the bold step here to include the brightest among us: thanks you guys and gals with the

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Chris Peterson
He isn't offering an opinion on theoretical physics. He's talking about a phenomenon which there's no evidence he has studied, and he's talking about physiology, about which he was not an expert. Einstein is stating a philosophical viewpoint, not a scientific one. He wrote a good deal about

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Meteorites USA
Hi Phil, I think Chris was referring to Einstein's knowledge of the physiological makeup of the human nervous system. Which Einstein would probably not in fact be qualified to answer on. I would think that a theoretical physicist would know a little about the physical system of the human body

Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron

2010-10-13 Thread Chris Peterson
@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Try divining rods over a large iron Hi Phil, I think Chris was referring to Einstein's knowledge of the physiological makeup of the human nervous system. Which Einstein would probably not in fact be qualified

RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-24 Thread joseph_town
I remember Stan Lee talking about those concepts. Timothy Leary too. Bill Kieskowski __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-23 Thread mark ford
OT but hey it's nearly Christmas... Toms post about clocks time reminds me of a wacky Victorian Time Machine invention I read about once... So here it is. Take two large flat mirrors and a telescope. | | |:-: | | |

RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-23 Thread Mark Jackson
Mark List: No need to look into mirrors with a telescope to see the past . . . every part of the human experience is based on observation, and reaction to, past events. There really is no such thing as the "present"; the present is really a relativity concept that occurs at the interface in our

Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-22 Thread John Gwilliam
Sound like you mixed a little locoweed in with your regular bong fodder. John At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in

Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-22 Thread David Freeman
is the result of foraging in the male bovine pen...ate a little too much.good news is it should keep the flu bug away though! DF John Gwilliam wrote: Sound like you mixed a little locoweed in with your regular bong fodder. John At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote:

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2003-12-22 Thread Sterling K. Webb
Hi, My well-worn copy of Encyclopaedia Psychedelia does not report chronometric circularity as a known side effect of Datura stramonium. Sounds more like Gigasalvia venerii (commonly known as Venusian Gold). Sterling

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2003-12-22 Thread S. Culver
Tom, I`m really worried about you! Have you seen a doctor sense ingesting that whole 78G Bensour? It may have been toxic. At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half

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2003-12-22 Thread GeoZay
In a message dated 12/22/2003 8:33:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." Perhaps the line is getting thicker on one side? :o) GeoZay

RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-22 Thread Randy Mils
I am going to put my vote on the "mental illness" sideas usual another waste of bandwidth.Randy From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !! Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:02:42 -0700 Hello List, You should try this it is

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2003-12-22 Thread joseph_town
Just sounds like one of many variations of holiday dimentia. Then again it also sounds like that idea about a meteorite thrown by a super Nolan Ryan at just the perfect velocity to hold it in eternal gravitational situ or whatever all that was about might have got to him. Bill Kieskowski

RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!

2003-12-22 Thread Claudia Carroll
There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. I think he just tripped over the line. James [Original Message] From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/22/2003 12:04:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !! Hello List, You should

Re: [meteorite-list] Try this one!

2002-04-04 Thread Dave Schultz
I still like Kittakittaooloo, a H4, from South Australia! :) That shouldn`t be too hard to pronounce. Dave - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer To: Ing. Christian ANGER ; Meteorite-List@Meteoritecentral. Com Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:53 PM