[uf-discuss] URI schemes vs. visible data (was Re: communications log, "tel" microformat?)

2005-11-29 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 11/26/05 1:07 AM, "Benjamin Carlyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek, > > On Thu, 2005-11-24 at 10:25 -0800, Tantek Çelik wrote: >> In the mean time, as Ryan King as pointed out, there is nothing stopping you >> from simply marking up your phone calls using semantic class names, which >> y

Re: [uf-discuss] Fiction books microformats

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Hibbert
I was just rereading this post for thoughts on marking up titles. At the same time, the thread on invisible data got me to thinking: --- Chris Hibbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [omitted] So why have the non-visible data? You have the title visible AND invisible with a link. Why not just comb

Re: communications log, "tel" microformat? (was Re: [uf-discuss] Paving the cowpaths?)

2005-11-29 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 05-11-26 à 04:07, Benjamin Carlyle a écrit : URI[1]. The number above might be represented instead as something like: +1.415.555.1212 See http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard- brainstorming#Using_RFC2806_with_hCard -- Karl Dubost - http://www.w3.org/People/karl/ W3C Conformance Manager

Re: [uf-discuss] XOXO/Attention blogroll scraper?

2005-11-29 Thread Ryan King
On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:00 AM, Danny Ayers wrote: On 11/27/05, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But there is another source of broadly attention-like subscription lists, people's blogrolls. As and when the blogging tools start supporting microformats directly, these should be available as XO

Re: [uf-discuss] Greetings microformatters

2005-11-29 Thread Ryan King
On Nov 29, 2005, at 8:20 AM, Ryan Cannon wrote: My name is Ryan Cannon and I am a master's student at U of M studying human-computer interaction, semantic web design, and basically looking for ways to contribute to the field. I read about Microformats in the Digitial Web Magazine Primer an

Re: [uf-discuss] Boom: book microformat?

2005-11-29 Thread Ryan King
On Nov 29, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Ryan King wrote: On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: FYI, on ALA today [1]: "we are happy to discover that we actually developed (at least the beginnings of) a microformat for books." Boom includes classes such as "table" and "caption" in place of

Re: [uf-discuss] Boom: book microformat?

2005-11-29 Thread Ryan King
On Nov 29, 2005, at 5:53 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: FYI, on ALA today [1]: "we are happy to discover that we actually developed (at least the beginnings of) a microformat for books." Boom includes classes such as "table" and "caption" in place of the existing HTML tags and they don't appear

Re: [uf-discuss] Greetings microformatters

2005-11-29 Thread Chris Messina
Hi Ryan, Just a quick reply... take a look at rel=directory (http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-directory). That might get you started. Note that Technorati's Blog Finder (http://technorati.com/blogs/) works around this concept. Chris On 11/29/05, Ryan Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My name i

Re: [uf-discuss] A request for the Technorati types

2005-11-29 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 11/24/05 10:59 PM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 24, 2005, at 1:38 PM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote: > >> You should compile "a history of microformats" story on the Wiki, >> writing yourselves in at the appropriate places, so things can be >> properly attributed and so fo

Re: [uf-discuss] XOXO/Attention blogroll scraper?

2005-11-29 Thread Danny Ayers
On 11/29/05, Andreas Haugstrup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll try Google again for xoxo2opml.xsl and opml2xoxo.xsl ... > > I just read this earlier today. Not having a clue about xsl I don't know > if it's what you're looking for. > > http://decafbad.com/blog/2005/11/27/digging-up-embedded-x

Re: [uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-29 Thread Danny Ayers
On 11/28/05, David Osolkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An identifier isn't useful if you can't > determine what is being identified. Er, that's not actually the case. If you can identify (/name) something you can say things about it. Indeed by saying things about it you can often determine what

Re: [uf-discuss] format for identifiers?

2005-11-29 Thread C. Hudley
On 11/28/05, Simon Kittle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So it's not that he was after a way to identify these things (for which > there exists a URI scheme already) but a way to put them into context, like > grouping a bunch of tags under class='vcard' and marking one class='url' > puts it into co

[uf-discuss] Greetings microformatters

2005-11-29 Thread Ryan Cannon
My name is Ryan Cannon and I am a master's student at U of M studying human-computer interaction, semantic web design, and basically looking for ways to contribute to the field. I read about Microformats in the Digitial Web Magazine Primer and more recently in Boss & Lie's article in A Lis

[uf-discuss] Boom: book microformat?

2005-11-29 Thread Scott Reynen
FYI, on ALA today [1]: "we are happy to discover that we actually developed (at least the beginnings of) a microformat for books." Boom includes classes such as "table" and "caption" in place of the existing HTML tags and they don't appear to be following the process at all, but they're c

Re: [uf-discuss] XOXO/Attention blogroll scraper?

2005-11-29 Thread Andreas Haugstrup
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:00:36 +0100, Danny Ayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We could create a XOXO -> OPML gateway. This would allow us to publish data in XOXO (or attention.xml), but still use the "legacy" tools, which only support OPML. Yep, sounds good (aside from the issue of what the OPM

Re: [uf-discuss] XOXO/Attention blogroll scraper?

2005-11-29 Thread Danny Ayers
On 11/27/05, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But there is another source of broadly attention-like subscription > > lists, people's blogrolls. As and when the blogging tools start > > supporting microformats directly, these should be available as XOXO. > > Already done for wordpress. Sor

[uf-discuss] Bloglines' subscription list

2005-11-29 Thread Danny Ayers
I just posted this on Blogline's mail form. If anyone here knows the folks there, any chance of giving them a prod? [[ I was delighted to discover that you provide a HTML version of subscription lists. However, it would be very helpful (and standards-friendly) if could be tweaked to be more seman