[uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Hans Gerwitz
I'm trying to subtly embed hCalendar into blog text. I want to denote the time and place of a moment being discussed, and a journal entry seems to be the correct approach as described in the RFC 2445 study http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar- examples#Example_5:_journal_entry ...but

Re: [uf-discuss] microformats search and pinging

2006-06-02 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Mea Culpa. Okay. On Jun 1, 2006, at 7:08 PM, Kevin Marks wrote: Scott, I'm trying to relay pings to you byt they don't seem to eb working: It currently fails on anything that's not well-formed X(HT)ML, so it's probably not worth

[uf-discuss] Microformats in Textpattern

2006-06-02 Thread Drew McLellan
Just a quick FYI. I've recently had patches accepted into Textpattern to add the following: - rel=bookmark to permalinks - rel=tag to category links for a post (which act just like tags) They're in svn now, and should therefore be available with the next minor release, whenever that may

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats in Textpattern

2006-06-02 Thread Tantek Çelik
That's great news Drew! Be sure to update the implementation sections of those specs on the wiki and add Textpattern once the next minor release goes out. Thanks, Tantek On 6/2/06 7:33 AM, Drew McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a quick FYI. I've recently had patches accepted into

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats in Textpattern

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Casciano
On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Drew McLellan wrote: Just a quick FYI. I've recently had patches accepted into Textpattern to add the following: - rel=bookmark to permalinks - rel=tag to category links for a post (which act just like tags) They're in svn now, and should therefore be

Re: [uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Messina
Wouldn't you use hAtom for this? The one thing I'm not sure about is Geocoding hAtom, which you can do with RSS: http://mapufacture.com/about.php Chris On 6/2/06, Hans Gerwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to subtly embed hCalendar into blog text. I want to denote the time and place of

[uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
I should be grateful for people's comments about the way I've added hCard markup to : http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/club/executive.htm and especially how I might add the organisation component which is the same for every person listed. Thank you. -- Andy Mabbett

[uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
Some time ago, I asked about marking up the events in the table on: http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/birmingham/indoor.htm as hCalendar entities. I don't recall that a satisfactory solution was ever found. (I have one entry on that page duplicated in a format which works with

Re: [uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Hans Gerwitz
On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:44 AM, Chris Messina wrote: Wouldn't you use hAtom for this? I don't think so. I'm not trying to tag a post with a location or timestamp. Rather, I have web content that represents a moment and place in history that I want to microformat. On Jun 2, 2006, at 11:01

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan King
On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:40 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I should be grateful for people's comments about the way I've added hCard markup to : http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/club/executive.htm and especially how I might add the organisation component which is the same for every

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan King
See http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar- brainstorming#Tabular_event_calendars and http://microformats.org/ wiki/include-pattern . Let me know if those lack clarity in any way (or just make them clear :D). =ryan On Jun 2, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Some time ago, I asked

Re: [uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Chris Messina
Hmm, while we're discussing this, you might look at the meeting minutes discussion as I believe that there's much to be gained from cross-polinating the discussions... Just as meeting minutes need to capture the who and what of a moment, so too do you want to capture similar things, with the

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I should be grateful for people's comments about the way I've added hCard markup to : http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/club/executive.htm and especially how I might add the organisation component which is the same for

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread brian suda
Andy Mabbett wrote: span class=vcard fn n org id=clubWest Midland Bird Club/span should work. Thoughts? you can collapse the 'org' along with the 'fn' and 'n', but you can NOT collapse it into the 'vcard' as well. All properties need to be children of a class=vcard for

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread brian suda
Andy Mabbett wrote: Also, I marked up the text concerned as: span class=vcardspan class=fn n id=clubspan class=orgWest Midland Bird Club/span/span/span sorry about the double post, but i just saw something else: The class=n in this case is not needed. 'N' is used for

Re: [uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Hans Gerwitz
Perhaps ironically, I would think that the discussion log portion of meeting minutes maps to hAtom. I've done a pretty exhaustive search on the history of VJOURNAL and hCalendar, and it looks like it was brought up last December by Tantek for consideration as a blog post format, and the

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes See http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar- brainstorming#Tabular_event _calendars and http://microformats.org/ wiki/include-pattern . Let me know if those lack clarity in any way (or just make them clear :D). Thank you. I've just

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], brian suda [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes you can collapse the 'org' along with the 'fn' and 'n', but you can NOT collapse it into the 'vcard' as well. All properties need to be children of a class=vcard span class=vcardspan class=fn n org id=clubWest Midland Bird

Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Perhaps not a microformat, in the sense used here, but I feel that there should be some way (or is there already?) for marking up an ISBN number, so that it is recognisable as such. Was this ever resolved? I recall that

Re: [uf-discuss] vjournal?

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan King
On Jun 2, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Hans Gerwitz wrote: Perhaps ironically, I would think that the discussion log portion of meeting minutes maps to hAtom. I've done a pretty exhaustive search on the history of VJOURNAL and hCalendar, and it looks like it was brought up last December by Tantek

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Ryan King
On Jun 2, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes See http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar- brainstorming#Tabular_event _calendars and http://microformats.org/ wiki/include-pattern . Let me know if those lack clarity in any way

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Let me know if those lack clarity in any way (or just make them clear :D). Thank you. I've just commented on the latter in a separate post to this mailing list. I don't find the former at all clear, and thought it read as

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard implementation check please; plus use of common attribute

2006-06-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes http://microformats.org/wiki/include-pattern Thank you. I'm troubled by the (ab)use of the object tag - what object is being embedded, in such cases? The referenced node. But it's not being embedded, is it? It's merely

Re: [uf-discuss] ISBN mark-up

2006-06-02 Thread Edward Summers
On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:48 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andy Mabbett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Perhaps not a microformat, in the sense used here, but I feel that there should be some way (or is there already?) for marking up an ISBN number, so that it is recognisable as

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar for events in tables (real world examples)

2006-06-02 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jun 2, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: It seems clear to me that, since its talking about markup that its for authors. You asked me to let you know if they lack clarity in any way; not whether they were clear to you. Yeah, what's up with asking if it's clear and then arguing

[uf-discuss] DOM scripting as an alternative to include-pattern?

2006-06-02 Thread Michael Leikam
Hi, I'm new to the list and microformats so I don't know if you've discussed this already. It seems to me that when compared to the include-pattern convention[1], DOM scripting is a lot more robust and widespread. The include-pattern rules strikes me as one very small DOM manipulation, so I'm

Re: [uf-discuss] DOM scripting as an alternative to include-pattern?

2006-06-02 Thread Brian Suda
On 6/2/06, Michael Leikam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The include-pattern rules strikes me as one very small DOM manipulation, so I'm wondering why we don't just adopt the whole thing? If I were parsing an hCard on the client side, ... --- not all microformats are parsed on the client-side. X2V