Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-09-27 Thread Benjamin West
This is clearly a usability problem. This is a re-ocurring complaint in the IRC channel as well. Is our only answer really "you need to change your username to UserName."!? On 9/27/06, brian suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: > Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail fr

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread David Osolkowski
On 9/26/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >there instead of " would >be perfectly legal and solve the problem, the escaped ampersand is my >code escaping out your HTML entities, which the validator then finds >bad because there should be no enitities in a ). it seems reasonable to me t

Re: [uf-discuss] hidden microformats

2006-09-27 Thread David Osolkowski
On 9/27/06, Paolo Negri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On some pages I have all the infos about these items and I can produce very complete uformats. On other pages I render let's say just the name and the email of someone and it doesn't make sense to provide a less complete hcard than in a different

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation]: Brian's outstanding issues 1: UID

2006-09-27 Thread David Osolkowski
On 9/25/06, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So suppose I wanted to apply a different style to different types of vcard properties - for instance to highlight all 'home' phones. Is there a good way to do that in CSS? You can always add your own styling hooks to the page to do someth

Re: [uf-discuss] hidden microformats

2006-09-27 Thread Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Hmm. Might it work for you to have an "Address Book" or "Calendar" page (or subsection) with the full information, and simply link to that from the "mention"? The reasons is that hidden microformats tend to be (i) be fragile and hard to maintain, plus (ii) susceptible to spam, and this ove

Re: [uf-discuss] hidden microformats

2006-09-27 Thread Paolo Negri
Hi Ernie Thanks for replying The application I'm working on is rich in calendar items and people. On some pages I have all the infos about these items and I can produce very complete uformats. On other pages I render let's say just the name and the email of someone and it doesn't make sense to

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread David Janes
Ah yes, sorry missed that! Back to bed... Regards, etc... On 9/27/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Why? Why what? >The entry-content is X, where X is the HTML content between paired >tags X. But that's not wh

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Why? Why what? >The entry-content is X, where X is the HTML content between paired >tags X. But that's not what's being rendered. The HTML content between the paired tags is: 20th: [text] and it's being r

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread David Janes
Why? The entry-content is X, where X is the HTML content between paired tags X. Regards, etc... On 9/27/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >This is a converter I've got some bad news... I've been using th

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Stephen Paul Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >This is a converter I've got some bad news... I've been using this hAtom markup: 20th: [text] I just tried: 20th: [text] instead, at:

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation]: Brian's outstanding issues 1: UID

2006-09-27 Thread Gareth Andrew
Ryan King wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Michael McCracken wrote: On 9/25/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:58 PM, Michael McCracken wrote: > I like Brian's suggestion to use a type class to denote what type of > UID it is while avoiding a huge list of new

Re: [uf-discuss] hidden microformats

2006-09-27 Thread Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
HI Paolo, In general "hidden" microformats are frowned upon, as they cause all sorts of problems. Could you give an example of the types of "hidden" information you want/need to provide? -- Ernie P. On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Paolo Negri wrote: Hi there This is my first post here, s

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread David Janes
Fair enough, though I note it's particularly useful in this instance because there's an enumerated value being encoded. Let me posit this: using ABBR to provide the machine coded value is useful when the value is from a constained vocabulary or syntax. Regards, etc... David On 9/27/06, Ryan Ki

Re: [uf-discuss] Adding links to hAtom markup for many items on one page

2006-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >If there's no URL specified, and the entry has an ID, then the URL >could default to: > >[page URL]#[ID] By luck, I chanced upon a post discussing this very idea, last February:

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes [ re: ] >>> Nonetheless, Sage is now showing some very odd results (do you see that, >>> or shall I "flickr" a screenshot?) >> >>screenshot, I don't have Sage instal

[uf-discuss] hidden microformats

2006-09-27 Thread Paolo Negri
Hi there This is my first post here, sorry if I'm not posting in the right place. I'm adding uformats support in my application and I have to say I'm quite intrigued but I'm facing with 3 problems 1) Sometime I have to change the code of my pages in places where I would prefer to have a more cle

Re: [uf-discuss] Tentative proposal for "What's New" listings

2006-09-27 Thread Ryan King
On Sep 26, 2006, at 11:53 AM, David Janes wrote: Quite honestly, I'm still mulling this one over. I note: - I've never seen it in the wild - something feels "off" to me about hiding human readable content in an ABBR - I can think off some places where it would be useful though I've found m

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

2006-09-27 Thread Scott Reynen
On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: class="unitcurrency" title="USD">$25 a class="unit" title="barrel>barrel. As suggested in the currency "Related microformats" section, I think a simpler money microformat (without "unit") could be combined with hListing [1] to cover somet

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

2006-09-27 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
A correction to one of my code samples: class="unitcurrency" title="USD">$25 a title="barrel>barrel. Guillaume Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Sorry if I'm only getting up-to-speed on this debate. I agree that attaching explicitly date/time information directly to a currency value is relatively rar

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation]: Brian's outstanding issues 2:

2006-09-27 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On 9/27/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does that cater for the case of a journal article which is later anthologised, verbatim in a book? Does it need to? I'd treat that as a relation (in RDF, or a RDBMS), but it may well be overkill for hCite. Chapter --> isVersionOf ---> Articl

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

2006-09-27 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Sorry if I'm only getting up-to-speed on this debate. I agree that attaching explicitly date/time information directly to a currency value is relatively rare, and when necessary that it is usually inferred from the context. For instance, we talk of the date of the price of a barrel of oil, in

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation]: Brian's outstanding issues 2:

2006-09-27 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bruce D'Arcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >So start with: > >- Document > - Book > - Chapter > - Article > - Report >- Collection > - Periodical > - Journal Does that cater for the case of a journal article which is later anthologised, verbatim in a book?

Re: [uf-discuss] Wiki editing issues

2006-09-27 Thread brian suda
Andy Mabbett wrote: > Finally (from me, for now), I've had an e-mail from someone wanting to > comment on the "species" proposal, saying: > > I've just tried creating an account on the microformats site so > that I can join in with the discussion, but whenever I try to > sig