Re: [uf-discuss] Inline style conflict?

Jonathan On 13/01/2007, at 10:57 AM, Jonathan C Williams wrote: **Why** is it considered harmful to hide elements? I think the fate of the meta element (unused by any search engine) pretty much demonstrates the difficult with invisible meta data j __

[uf-discuss] Hidden elements considered harmful (Was: Inline style conflict?)

On Jan 12, 2007, at 5:57 PM, Jonathan C Williams wrote: **Why** is it considered harmful to hide elements? In general: hiding elements only hides them from humans, and leaves the content more accessible for machines than humans. Microformats are for humans first. For publishers: hidden e

Re: [uf-discuss] Inline style conflict?

On Jan 12, 2007, at 6:04 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: Note that the former diff also includes the addition of the text: Entries may be moved here if there's a problem with the way hCards are used on the page concerned. If the page is yours, and you want to improve it, see th

Re: [uf-discuss] Inline style conflict?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frances Berriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >(So, if anyone has moved things, would they be so kind as to maybe go >back and jot down why they moved it, please?) In this case, that was done:

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >are the people who are voting for "hCite" >intending the capital C? Not me: hCite = uF name hcite = root class name -- Andy Mabbett __

[uf-discuss] Re: [citation] citation root element

> The pedant in me says that "cite" is a verb and not really > appropriate to label something that is a noun. IIRC, this is a usage difference between en-US and en-GB, though I can't remember which one takes which position in this case. Ted -- Edward O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ense petit plac

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

On 1/11/07, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: + 1 for citation -1 for citation, it is too generic for a root class name. Makes sense; I'll withdraw any vote for `citation`. The pedant in me says that "cite" is a verb and not really appropriate to label something that is a noun. The p

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

On 1/12/07, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >How about hCitation then? Like the others mention, you know its a >format for citations. I could live with hCite as well... hCite says as much as hCitation, in fewer charac

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >How about hCitation then? Like the others mention, you know its a >format for citations. I could live with hCite as well... hCite says as much as hCitation, in fewer characters. hCite +1 hCitation

[uf-discuss] Re: LA Meetup, end of the month?

> I'd drive up from San Diego to meet up with microformats folks - when? Hmm. If there's a car heading up from San Diego, I'd love to tag along! Ted -- Edward O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem. ___ microformats-di

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

On 1/11/07, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > + 1 for citation -1 for citation, it is too generic for a root class name. Agreed, I don't like 'citation'. hCitation or hCite would be fine -1 on hBib -Ross. ___ microformats-discuss mailing

[uf-discuss] Fwd: RFC 4770 on vCard Extensions for Instant Messaging (IM)

FYI: >A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 4770 > > Title: vCard Extensions for Instant Messaging > (IM) > Author: C. Jennings, J. Reschke, Ed. > Status: Standards Track > Date:

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

> Tantek said: >-1 for citation, it is too generic for a root class name. >If you look at other "established" / adopted microformats, you'll see >that >they have fairly unique-ish root class names as well. > >hCalendar - vevent, vcalendar (taken from RFC2445) >hReview - hreview (by pattern extensi

Re: [uf-discuss] Inline style conflict?

On 11/01/07, Jonathan Williams I have gotten a bit frustrated with the microformats.org process throughout this as people flagging my format as problematic have neglected to provide a justification for disallowing field hiding or a reference to a previous discussion of this issue. I hope that in

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] citation root element

Tantek, microformat back in 2005 May at the WWW2005 conference in Tokyo, he used "hBib" or "hCite" (I don't quite remember, perhaps Rohit will see this and speak up) as a candidate name for the microformat it was hBib IIRC john John Allsopp style master :: css editor :: http://westciv.c