Re: [uf-discuss] A dtstamp property for the geo microtag

2007-01-23 Thread Brian Suda
On 1/23/07, Dimitrios Zachariadis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I was wondering if there is any reason to avoid using the hCalendar dtstamp property inside a geo microtag. --- depends. I'm not sure what you are trying to do? There is also a REV property in vCard and a LAST-MODIFIED in

Re: [uf-discuss] A dtstamp property for the geo microtag

2007-01-23 Thread Dimitrios Zachariadis
Brian, thank you very much for your reply. --- i think you need to ask, is the currently being published in this way, and does it need to be examined to find the current publishing habits? You are right. The question is is the current publishing method adequate for getting an one click map

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: This is a very, very common mistake. So common, in fact, that the current HTML5 draft drops @rev. In the interest of keeping vote-links future compatible, we should rely on using both rel and rev. See the rel-faq

Re: [uf-discuss] Search on CSS element (was: Making Microformats Searchable)

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
on Jan 22, 2007, at 2:21 AM, David Janes wrote: Last week in Boston we were discussing Pingerati and how do you find microformats (in general). One passing idea I had was that search engines should supply a CSS element selector. So for example, to find Tantek's hCard we could search tantek

[uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread David Janes
Continuing the tradition of riffing off other threads to talk about what's on my mind... On 1/23/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not a full CSS selector based search engine, but http:// kitchen.technorati.com/contacts/search/tantek. Wouldn't it be great if there was a well

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
I disagree. First of all, you don't need both @rel and @rev for votelinks. Right now you just need @rev to declare votes. Linking in the opposite direction doesn't add anything, as it is a 3rd party assertion (or hearsay). Secondly, if people can't figure out how to use it properly, they'll use

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Ryan King
On Jan 23, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Ara Pehlivanian wrote: I disagree. First of all, you don't need both @rel and @rev for votelinks. Right now you just need @rev to declare votes. Linking in the opposite direction doesn't add anything, as it is a 3rd party assertion (or hearsay). Secondly, if

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
I understand that the attributes, as defined specify the direction of the relationship. However, it has been found in practice that people confuse these and misuse the two attributes. So, that ambiguity is already there in practice, but not reflected in the specification. HTML5 is a step towards

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 10:22 AM, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Continuing the tradition of riffing off other threads to talk about what's on my mind... On 1/23/07, Ryan King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not a full CSS selector based search engine, but http://

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 12:15 PM, Ara Pehlivanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't call people 'thick' just because they don't understand the difference between @rev and @rel. I've seen numerous people (myself included) mistake the two. Hey Tantek, why don't you tell everyone the story about how you

Re: [uf-discuss] rel=pavatar

2007-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ben Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there no interrest in such a microformat like rel=pavatar? It's been listed as a rejected microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/rejected-formats though I can find no such rejection, by this

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 1:05 PM, David Janes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/23/07, Tantek Çelik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Janes, you're right, we need to solve this problem. I did some research on examples in the wild and possible approaches here:

[uf-discuss] Geo- extension (Luna. Mars) proposal updated

2007-01-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
I have received a series of helpful comments on the Geo-extension proposal: http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-extension-strawman from Brent A. Archinal, Geodesist with the Astrogeology Team of the U.S. Geological Survey With his permission, I've added them to the above page. I've also

Re: [uf-discuss] Vote Links: rel=voted-for

2007-01-23 Thread Ara Pehlivanian
Ara, the point is that with rel/rev in particular, it has confused *even the people that are supposed to be experts*. As Ryan points out, I myself got it wrong when I initially proposed to Kevin Marks that we use 'rel' for VoteLinks instead of their initial idea of using a new HTML attribute

Re: [uf-discuss] rel=pavatar

2007-01-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: It's been listed as a rejected microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/rejected-formats though I can find no such rejection, by this community. Perhaps someone can give a reference? On Dec 28, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Paul Bryson wrote:

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Scott Reynen
On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Document Examples in the Wild first of people linking to their and others' hCards, and that will drive the scope of the solution. Does this need to be limited to hCard? I think identifying pointers to a canonical source of data is a

Re: [uf-discuss] Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 3:51 PM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Document Examples in the Wild first of people linking to their and others' hCards, and that will drive the scope of the solution. Does this need to be limited to hCard? It doesn't

Re: [uf-discuss] rel=pavatar

2007-01-23 Thread Tantek Çelik
On 1/23/07 4:12 PM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:39 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: It's been listed as a rejected microformat: http://microformats.org/wiki/rejected-formats though I can find no such rejection, by this community. Perhaps someone can give