Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I don't think this is a very natural use of the q element. A
thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a prose fragment. Consider
that you would never put a thumbnail in quotation marks.
True... but
On May 28, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
Hmm. I think Maciej does have a strong point about interoperability
here. Removing the quotation punctuation with CSS does not help
those with user-designated styles or UAs that ignore such CSS: e.g.
text browsers and screen
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
Yeah, the HTML4 spec says the rev and rel imply relationships between
the current document and the href, not the anchor's contents and the
href.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#adef-rev
I think eRDF's approach is worth noting here - when
On May 27, 2007, at 6:55 PM, Paul Wilkins wrote:
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/links.html#h-12.1.2
My simplified understanding of the relationship between rel and rev is
With the rel attribute, the relationship that the linked page has
to this link is foo.
With the rev attribute, the
Colin Barrett wrote:
On May 28, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis wrote:
[snip]
If a screen reader read (for example):
quote Dorothy encounters the Lion end quote
That would be rather strange, wouldn't it?
I dunno, I think that might be helpful. It's semantic information that
Maciej Stachowiak wrote:
When browsers or extensions expose linked resources, they generally
do so for a selected set of link types (for example, link
rel=stylesheet is not exposed)
It is when you have a series of alternate stylesheets (in Firefox,
anyhow), isn't it?
and often do so with
Hello Benjamin,
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I don't think this is a very natural use of the q element. A
thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a prose fragment.
Hello Benjamin,
Most screen reader users are not deaf as well as blind, and many
screen readers still have some sight. So most screen reader users are as
likely to enjoy watching videos online as you and I
Hmmm... that's a good point. And something I wasn't aware of
Perhaps the alt text
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I don't think this is a very natural use of the q element. A
thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a
Has any thought been given to the pre-existing in-the-wild use of rel=EditURI?
link rel=EditURI type=application/rsd+xml title=RSD
href=/xmlrpc.php?rsd /
--
Chris Griego
On 5/25/07, Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, everybody.
** Context **
So, on the tail of RecentChangesCamp
On Friday, May 25, 2007 10:54 AM, Andrew Jaswa wrote
The draft says to use the include pattern to include your
formatted name (so you don't have to repeat it in the
markup). Where I think this goes awry is the end result of
including your fn into hCards that have past contact
I don't know.
Following an EditURI link does not take you to a page where you can edit
the current resource (or resource fragment, for that matter), but
instead to a computer-readable description of available services:
http://archipelago.phrasewise.com/display?page=oldsite/1330.html
Blogger
Hello Benjamin,
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
I don't think this is a
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
Ah. Okay, I hadn't understood that's what you were saying. I think
putting the thumbnail alternative text in quotation punctuation is
potentially problematic unless the alternative text is actually a
quotation from the video's dialogue.
What if there is no video
Hello Benjamin,
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
This is a tempting argument, but in theory and practice a problematic
one. q and blockquote are not merely intended to be portions of a
larger document but to be /quotations/:
True...
Hello Benjamin,
Sorry for replying to my own post, but
On 5/28/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Benjamin,
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
This is a tempting argument, but in theory and practice a
On 28 May 2007, at 22:09, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
But yeah... having quote read out does still seem undesired.
Aren't the aural style sheet or something that can be used to get
rid of that?
Shouldn't putting quotes: none none on the q element be enough to
get the screen readers
On Sat, 2007-26-05 at 13:48 +1000, Michael MD wrote:
So, on the tail of RecentChangesCamp Montreal
(http://www.rocococamp.info/), there's an effort to work out some
universal conventions for wiki engines to indicate that a page is
editable.
Good idea in theory ... but what about the
Hello James,
On 5/28/07, James O'Donnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 28 May 2007, at 22:09, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
But yeah... having quote read out does still seem undesired.
Aren't the aural style sheet or something that can be used to get
rid of that?
Shouldn't putting
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
But I /don't/ accept that. IMHO microformats currently abuse abbr and
perhaps (more debatably) title for time and location, violating the
standards-based credos of the movement with poor consequences for
assistive technology which have already been widely
James O'Donnell wrote:
Mind you, screenreaders don't generally read out
quote for the q tag either. Have a look at this:
http://dotjay.co.uk/tests/screen-readers/q-element/
Well, in so far as they have any especially common behaviour for q,
reading quote at the beginning is it. Of course,
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
It's the cite attribute that gives it value.
It lets me bind a set of thumbnails together (as being from the same
video) while allowing the thumbnails to be all over the place (and
not necessarily in some container element, like a span or something,
which binds
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