[uf-discuss] abbr-design-pattern within microformat attribute values

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
[Cross-posted, so original quoted in full] In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 01/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >>I have a page at: >> >>

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 01/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward O'Connor >> >How about without @title? >> ... >> which Operator handles (plaudits due!) but for which X2V returns null values. >

Re: [uf-discuss] A further possible solution to the "abbr" accessibility issue

2008-01-01 Thread Paul Wilkins
On Jan 2, 2008 10:51 AM, Dmitry Baranovskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This probably was raised before, but I didn't find it. Why we can't > put these values into class? It seems to me semantically correct: > additional meaning. It is as easy to parse as title and it removes > accessibility issue

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

2008-01-01 Thread Brian Suda
On 01/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward O'Connor > >How about without @title? > ... > which Operator handles (plaudits due!) but for which X2V returns null values. The current mark-up is: Fred The user has explicitly said that the value of t

Re: [uf-discuss] Timelines from pages with hAtom or hCalendar microformats

2008-01-01 Thread Brian Suda
On 01/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >*parse a page marked up with the hAtom microformat ... and rendering > that data as a Simile timeline; Yes, the code has been written, but has not been tested enough yet. http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/microformat-encoding-and-vi

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr-design-pattern within microformat attribute values

2008-01-01 Thread Brian Suda
On 01/01/2008, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > >How do other parsers handle embedded abbr, in other microformats, such > >as, say: > > > > > > New John > > St. > > West > >

[uf-discuss] Timelines from pages with hAtom or hCalendar microformats

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
[cross-posted to the Simile and microformats mailing lists] Has anyone thought of creating (or "created"!) a tool to either: *parse a page marked up with the hAtom microformat (which enables generation of an Atom feed from HTML, using pre-defined class names):

Re: [uf-discuss] hCards for places

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Perhaps the rule should be that the hCard is for a place if the "fn" is >on *any* address ("adr") child-component (e.g. "fn locality" or "fn >street-address")? > >This would allow, for instance: Further testing shows that th

Re: [uf-discuss] A further possible solution to the "abbr" accessibility issue

2008-01-01 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
This probably was raised before, but I didn't find it. Why we can't put these values into class? It seems to me semantically correct: additional meaning. It is as easy to parse as title and it removes accessibility issue completely. As soon as we are going to use prefix let's gain more benefi

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

2008-01-01 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
I think parsers should ignore abbr without title. It looks quite logical. Best, Dmitry Baranovskiy http://dmitry.baranovskiy.com/ Optimus: http://microformatique.com/optimus/ On 02/01/2008, at 3:42 AM, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward O'Conno

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr-design-pattern within microformat attribute values

2008-01-01 Thread Dmitry Baranovskiy
Optimus will return correct string. Best, Dmitry Baranovskiy http://dmitry.baranovskiy.com/ Optimus: http://microformatique.com/optimus/ On 02/01/2008, at 3:42 AM, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes How do other

Re: [uf-discuss] abbr-design-pattern within microformat attribute values

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >How do other parsers handle embedded abbr, in other microformats, such >as, say: > > > New John > St. > West > Operator and X2V each return, at the time of writing, "New John St. W

[uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Edward O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> I have a need to mark up some people's names, which are given as >> initials only, and where the full names for which those initials stand >> are not known. For example, "A. N. Other". >[...] >> In

[uf-discuss] abbr-design-pattern within microformat attribute values

2008-01-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
I have a page at: which uses the prototype "species" microformat. Operator returns for example: trinominal=Mergus m. merganser from source code: Mergus m. merganser