[uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Christian Heilmann
I just got several automated emails from http://www.virel.org/index.php that they found uF of mine on sites and indexed them. Does anybody know the people behind it? I am not sure if that is cool or creepy :) Chris ___ microformats-discuss mailing

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Ameer Dawood
Hi, The site looks authentic and useful. I don't know about the emails. I have added my blog to the site. Let's see what happens next. Ameer On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Christian Heilmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got several automated emails from http://www.virel.org/index.php tha

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Ameer Dawood
Hi, look what happened now. I jusst got the same kind of email. Looks like they are sending emails to email addresses found in hCards. *It's just like spam. I just dropped them a mail saying so. Ameer On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Ameer Dawood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > The site loo

[uf-discuss] Reviving hProduct

2008-07-07 Thread Jay Myers
All, It seems like the hProduct microformat hasn't seen a lot of revisions since it's initial brainstorming in 2006 (feel free to correct me on this if there are current efforts taking place :-) ). I'm attempting to revise the schema for use in an upcoming August / September project release.

[uf-discuss] Re: Reviving hProduct

2008-07-07 Thread Ben Ward
Hi Jay, On 7 Jul 2008, at 17:11, Jay Myers wrote: All, It seems like the hProduct microformat hasn't seen a lot of revisions since it's initial brainstorming in 2006 (feel free to correct me on this if there are current efforts taking place :-) ). I'm attempting to revise the schema for

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Angus McIntyre
Ameer Dawood wrote: > look what happened now. I jusst got the same kind of email. Looks like they are sending emails to email addresses found in hCards. *It's just like spam. I just dropped them a mail saying so. As a hardliner on this issue, my feeling is that any sentence that reads "that's {l

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Paul Kinlan
Hi, Personally, I don't get the use of microformats if the data is obscured. I mean, how far would you go to retain your privacy with hCard? There has to be a point where it becomes useless. So, I suppose that puts me in favour of case A. Paul > 2008/7/7 Angus McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >

Re: [uf-discuss] Reviving hProduct

2008-07-07 Thread Hayes Davis
I'm glad to see someone else showing an interest in this. I'd love to see a product microformat revived as well for an application I'm working on. We might want to move this discussion to microformats-dev but I'm not sure... Anyway, some comments on your proposed changes: 1) The rel="product". Doe

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Christian Heilmann
As far as users of microformats are concerned, the choice is (a) include your address and expect to get spam, (b) leave your address out, or (c) obscure your address. I currently favor options (b) and (c). For (c), I actually recommend having a human-intelligible version (e.g. 'myaddress at exam

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Angus McIntyre
Christian Heilmann wrote: > That's got nothing to do with microformats ... With due respect, I don't completely accept that. A case could be made that factors that influence people's adoption of microformats are legitimate topics for discussion. Uneasiness about the 'spammability' of addresses pu

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Brian Suda
2008/7/7 Angus McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Christian Heilmann wrote: >> That's got nothing to do with microformats ... > > With due respect, I don't completely accept that. A case could be made > that factors that influence people's adoption of microformats are > legitimate topics for discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Christian Heilmann
... This is about unearthing information we already publish and make easier to access and re-use it, which is the opposite of obfuscating. OK, so there's an implicit challenge here. For users who are unwilling to expose their email address through hCard, what alternative mechanisms can mic

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Sarven Capadisli
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Angus McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Christian Heilmann wrote: >> That's got nothing to do with microformats ... > > With due respect, I don't completely accept that. A case could be made > that factors that influence people's adoption of microformats are >

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread André Luís
On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Other people only vend the data after someone has > authenticated themselves, so the microformats are NOT available to the > general public, but instead to a white-list of contacts. > If you host some service that allows connect

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Dan Brickley
Brian Suda wrote: 2008/7/7 Angus McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Christian Heilmann wrote: That's got nothing to do with microformats ... With due respect, I don't completely accept that. A case could be made that factors that influence people's adoption of microformats are legitimate topics for

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats search engine: virel

2008-07-07 Thread Angus McIntyre
Dan Brickley wrote: > ... we need to get much better (across various of these projects) > in making clear to users what's going on, including the bad things that > might happen. Agreed. > Some examples: These are good examples, not least because they relate to 'good actors' (rather than 'bad ac

Re: [uf-discuss] hoard.it

2008-07-07 Thread Bob Jonkman
Sounds great! How does it deal with dates commonly found in genealogy, such as "ABT 7 July 1950" or "AFT 25 Dec 2000" or "BEF Jan 1925"? or even "ABT 2000 ? --Bob. On 3 Jul 2008 at 23:03, Jim O'Donnell wrote: > Hello, > > This might be of interest to members of this group, as it deals with

Re: [uf-discuss] hoard.it

2008-07-07 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Jim O'Donnell wrote: The recent discussion here about dates has made me wonder if such a web service woud be useful for microformats parsers. What do others think? It seems to me that this type of date extraction might present risks if used by uf parsers to extract date/time from published cont