[uf-discuss] How to avoid building erroneous social network graphs?

2008-03-26 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Recall that a "representative hCard" identifies the person or organization that represents the current web page. Suppose that Alice has a web page on a social network. The web page contains a representative hCard for Alice. On this web page Alice invites her friends to add comments to

RE: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity ofsourceandtarget not findable

2008-03-21 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Wow! This is excellent! Perfect! Thanks Glenn! /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Jones Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 6:46 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: RE: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity ofsourceandtar

RE: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity of source andtarget not findable

2008-03-20 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Thanks Ryan! "Representative hCard" -- nice! In this message I will: (a) Summarize purpose of the representative hCard. (b) Check on the social networks that use XFN and see if they follow the Representative hCard Best Practice. (c) Send out a plea to those social networks that aren't follow

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: Mandatory connection of a XFN to a"source" hCard and a "target" hCard

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Thanks Scott. Excellent comments. > 1. All people in an XFNetwork MUST be identified via > hCard somewhere within the network. How about allowing the parties involved in an XFN-relationship be identified by either hCard or a FOAF document or an OpenID? (I must confess ignorance of OpenID. I

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: Mandatory connection of a XFN to a"source" hCard and a "target" hCard

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, My mind has really latched on to the term that Scott Reynen used in his last message: XFNetwork Nice! In a nutshell, what's needed is a way to connect the XFNetwork to an Identity Network. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing lis

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: Mandatory connection of a XFN to a"source" hCard and a "target" hCard

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Thanks Paul. Excellent comments. I too am a big fan of "separation of concerns." However, if there is no way for a robot application to determine in some automated way "who" is "friends with" xxx then the separation of concerns buys me nothing. > a URI is a great way to identify someone: > ht

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: Mandatory connection of a XFN to a"source" hCard and a "target" hCard

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Thanks Dan. Excellent points. Okay, then let's revise it from "Mandatory" to "Best Practice." The Best Practice may be simply stated as such: "If you use XFN in your web page then it is Best Practice to incorporate an hCard in the web page which identifies the source of the

[uf-discuss] Proposal: Mandatory connection of a XFN to a "source" hCard and a "target" hCard

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Below is a proposal. The proposal is based on the following assertion. ASSERTION An expression of a relationship is useful only if you know who is the source and who is the target of the relationship. EXAMPLE ??? is friends with ??? is not useful. But Alice is friends with Bo

RE: [uf-discuss] Actual research regarding usage of rel-me, rel-contact, and friends. WAS: Social Networks that use XFN and Social Networks that use FOAF

2008-03-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
~D [1] http://factoryjoe.com/blog/2008/03/11/portable-contact-lists-and-the-ca se-against-xfn/ Derrick Lyndon Pallas wrote: > Costello, Roger L. wrote: >> Everyone, if you know of other social networks using XFN please let me >> know and I will add it to the list. Thanks >

[uf-discuss] Social Networks that use XFN and Social Networks that use FOAF

2008-03-18 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Below is a list of social networks that use XFN (special thanks to David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use FOAF. Also is a sample link to a publicly accessible profile in each network that exhibits the use of XFN (or FOAF). To see how XFN is being used,

[uf-discuss] Social Networks that use XFN and Social Networks that use FOAF

2008-03-18 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Below is a list of social networks that use XFN (special thanks to David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use FOAF. Also is a sample link to a publicly accessible profile in each network that exhibits the use of XFN (or FOAF). To see how XFN is being used,

RE: [uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity of source andtarget not findable

2008-03-18 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Thanks David and Toby. David Janes wrote: > I had a great time coding the XFN stuff -- I wrote one piece of code > that extracts all the A.rel links, another that pulls out all the > hCards, and another that matches them up and I was done. How do you know that the hCard matches to the XFN, part

[uf-discuss] Has the cowpath for these XFN values faded away: friend, co-worker, muse, etc?

2008-03-18 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Chris Messina wrote[1]: "... you'll find that, by and large, the majority of XFN links on the web are using either rel-contact or rel-me." I have been looking at various social networks for the last week, and Chris' statement is consistent with what I have seen - most web pages just us

[uf-discuss] A (big) problem with XFN: identity of source and target not findable

2008-03-18 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Flickr uses XFN. Here is a sample Flickr page that uses XFN: http://www.flickr.com/people/tantek/ At the browser menu select View >> Page Source. Then search for rel= Here's an example usage of XFN within that Flickr page: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2146/buddyicons/[EMAIL P

RE: [uf-discuss] XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-12 Thread Costello, Roger L.
A few days ago I was browsing through Twitter and at somebody's web page I viewed the page source and found XFN being used. Unfortunately, I didn't bookmark that page. Since then I have been unable to find any pages on Twitter that contains XFN. Can someone point me to a web page on Twitter whi

[uf-discuss] XFN is getting smoked by FOAF

2008-03-11 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have been doing some digging into social networks that use XFN vice FOAF. Thus far, the only social network that I have found which uses XFN is metafilter.com For an example, see: http://www.metafilter.com/usercontacts/292 Thanks Scott Reynen for pointing me to it. Supposedly WordP

RE: [uf-discuss] Re: What social networking sites uses XFN to expressrelationships and makes the XFN data visible so that it canbe screen-scraped?

2008-03-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Scott, I have a blog account on WordPress.com When I add an individual to my blogroll the user interface on WordPress.com gives me the ability to designate the individual as friend, co-worker, etc (all the XFN values). After adding the individual I see a web page containing the link to the ne

[uf-discuss] What social networking sites uses XFN to express relationships and makes the XFN data visible so that it can be screen-scraped?

2008-03-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, What social networking sites use XFN to express relationship information? In particular, I am seeking sites that let me see and scrape the XFN data. That is, I want to be able to do View Page Source and see the rel="..." on the link. Apparently WordPress uses XFN to express relation

[uf-discuss] Microformats: Enabling Unanticipated Mashups

2007-07-06 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Here are a few thoughts about how Microformats enable mashups. Comments welcome. /Roger Hyperlinks are considered fundamental to the Web. And deservedly so. They enable a Web document to connect to other documents. Stated differently, they enable information to connect to other info

RE: [uf-discuss] hCalendar question

2007-07-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
How about this: A Special Event London, England Sept. 21 @ 7:00pm, Sept. 22 8:00am & 7:00pm You might find this tutorial helpful: http://www.xfront.com/microformats/hCalendar_part2.html /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

RE: [uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks?

2007-06-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
nothing to do with VoteLinks). /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Suda Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:56 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks? On 6/7/07, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTE

RE: [uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks?

2007-06-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
The VoteLinks specification says that a VoteLink is used to (1) indicate agreement or disagreement with the resource indicated by href, and (2) the title attribute should be used to express a human-readable commentary (i.e., a rationale) for the vote. Brian and Ryan have shown that these two item

[uf-discuss] Problem with VoteLinks?

2007-06-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, There may be a problem with VoteLinks. REVIEW OF VoteLinks Here's an example of using the VoteLinks Microformat to express support for a Web site that sells garlic capsules: http://www.all-about-lowering-cholesterol.com/garlic-cholesterol. html"> Garlic Cholesterol Things to no

[uf-discuss] Proposal: hArgument Microformat

2007-05-20 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Michael Crichton says: "The greatest challenge facing mankind is the challenge of distinguishing reality from fantasy, truth from propaganda. Perceiving the truth has always been a challenge to mankind, but in the information age (or as I think of it, the disinformation age) it takes on

[uf-discuss] Rebuttal to this article that criticizes Microformats: Thinking XML: Microformats the XML way

2007-05-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, On the IBM web site is an article that harshly criticizes Microformats: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-think39.html?ca=dnw -820 I carefully read the article. I tried to objectively extract the assumptions that the author is making. I identified these three

RE: [uf-discuss] User Interface for Firefox/Operator

2007-05-10 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hey Mike, I'd like to add another item to my wish list for Operator: Mashup a web page containing events (hCalendar) with the Timeline widget[1]. [1] http://simile.mit.edu/timeline/ /Roger -Original Message- From: Costello, Roger L. Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:12

[uf-discuss] Migrating from Custom XML to XHTML to (XHTML + Microformats)

2007-05-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have written a short wiki article describing how an information design may evolve from custom XML tags, to XHTML tags, to XHTML + Microformats: http://www.xfront-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Alternative_Information _Designs Comments are welcome. /Roger

RE: [uf-discuss] User Interface for Firefox/Operator

2007-05-01 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hey Mike, Here's my "wish list" for Operator: 1. Suppose a web page has multiple geo Microformats. The Operator "Find a Google Map" currently allows only a mashup of one geo Microformat at a time with Google Maps. I would like an option that would display all the geo Microformats simultaneously

RE: [uf-discuss] Need a cool demo of mashing up web pages with Microformats

2007-04-06 Thread Costello, Roger L.
:40 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Need a cool demo of mashing up web pageswith Microformats Costello, Roger L. wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Does anyone have a cool demo of mashing up some web pages that contain > Microformats? Ideally it would be a mashup from sever

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-06 Thread Costello, Roger L.
il 05, 2007 2:34 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia. In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy, can you provide some examples of wikipedia articles that use the >GeoTemplate? There

[uf-discuss] Need a cool demo of mashing up web pages with Microformats

2007-04-05 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Does anyone have a cool demo of mashing up some web pages that contain Microformats? Ideally it would be a mashup from several different sources. And it needs to be publicly accessible. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microfo

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-05 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Andy, can you provide some examples of wikipedia articles that use the GeoTemplate? /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 10:47 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Geo deploye

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-04 Thread Costello, Roger L.
> The HTML that is generated by the template could be: > > Singapore > > (Singapore How is this better than just: Singapore Ah, good point! You're right, there's no need for that extra stuff. You've made it even simpler! /Roger ___ microformat

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-04 Thread Costello, Roger L.
>>Is there an "adr template" in Wikipedia, so that the adr Microformat >>can be automatically injected into Wikipedia pages? >Not /yet/... >>Is there a way to create new templates? Can we create a template for >>hcard, vevent, and so forth? >That's being looked at, but the situation is extremel

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-03 Thread Costello, Roger L.
> Firstly, the change has unfortunately had to be reverted, as it caused > problems for a script which uses the raw "wiki" text of the templates it > replaces. The technicalities are beyond me, but I hopeful that there > will be an early resolution. This despite widespread appeals for comment > bef

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Would you help me understand how the geo Microformat gets automatically injected into a Wikipedia page? I took a look at one of the Wikipedia articles that Andy referenced: The geo Microformat occurs at this point in the article: ... Be

RE: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia.

2007-04-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
This is awesome Andy! Great work! /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 9:15 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Geo deployed on Wikipedia. In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy

[uf-discuss] Making Local Knowledge Globally Useful [was: Zen of Microformats]

2007-03-20 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, A couple weeks back we had an excellent discussion on how Microformats enable information to be both resolutely local and globally useful. I have captured the discussion on a wiki page: http://www.xfront-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Making_Local_Knowlege_G lobally_Useful I invite you

[uf-discuss] Making Local Knowledge Globally Useful [was: Zen of Microformats]

2007-03-16 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, A couple weeks back we had an excellent discussion on how Microformats enable information to be both resolutely local and globally useful. I have captured the discussion on a wiki page: http://www.xfront-wiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Making_Local_Knowlege_G lobally_Useful I invite you

[uf-discuss] [Zen of Microformats] Two Fundamental Principles of Information Design

2007-03-08 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Through intense study of Microformats I have come to enlightenment regarding information design: Two Fundamental Principles of Information Design 1. Design information to be resolutely specific and local. 2. Design information to be globally and collectively useful. Example: conside

[uf-discuss] No luck with getting Technorati to index my microformat-containing Web pages - help!

2007-03-03 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I don't seem to have any luck in getting Technorati to index any of my Web pages that contain Microformats. For example, about a month ago I entered this URL at Pingerati [1] of a Web page that has an hReview of the book An Introduction to Mathematics: http://www.xfront.com/microform

[uf-discuss] ANN: Microformats Tutorials

2007-02-12 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have created a set of tutorials on the core Microformats. The tutorials contain lots of examples and lab exercises. http://www.xfront.com/microformats Comments welcome. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@mi

[uf-discuss] Tutorial on AHAH (such a cool technology!)

2007-02-10 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have created a tutorial on AHAH (Asynchronous HTML and HTTP) http://www.xfront.com/microformats/AHAH.html Comments welcome. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/

[uf-discuss] Puzzled about the value of XOXO

2007-02-08 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have read the Wiki on XOXO and as I understand it, the XOXO microformat has no properties, it is simply a classname to be used at the top of a list, e.g., ... ... ... Question #1 Is that all there is to the XOXO microformat? I am puzzled how the XOXO microformat helps

[uf-discuss] Tutorial on expressing recurring events using hCalendar

2007-02-04 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have written a tutorial on how to express recurring events using the hCalendar microformat: http://www.xfront.com/microformats/hCalendar_part2.html I would appreciate any comments you have. I am especially interested in hearing of any errors in the tutorial. Thanks! /Roger __

RE: [uf-discuss] WikiProject Microformats

2007-01-29 Thread Costello, Roger L.
I think adding Microformats to wiki pages is an excellent idea. "Can" microformats be added to wiki pages? When I "edit" a wikipedia page, there are no visible HTML tags to hook Microformats. Yet, clearly HTML is present because when I "view" the article I can select View // Source and see the H

RE: [uf-discuss] Expressing an event that only has an end date?

2007-01-21 Thread Costello, Roger L.
rmats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Expressing an event that only has an end date? On 1/21/07, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Question #1: > > I want to use vevent to markup this information. Notice that there is > only one date specified - May, 1998 - which is t

[uf-discuss] Expressing an event that only has an end date?

2007-01-21 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Question #1: Consider this education description in a resume: Education B.S. in mechanical engineering, focus in automotive engineering, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI, May 1998. I want to use vevent to markup this information. Notice that there is only one date specified - M

[uf-discuss] The Wisdom of Microformats

2007-01-03 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, In his book, The Wisdom of Crowds, James Suroweicki says that to effectively harness the collective intelligence of a crowd - such as the Web - there needs to be the right balance between: - making individual knowledge globally and collectively useful - allowing individual k

[uf-discuss] I have filled in the hCalendar profile page; please check for accuracy

2007-01-01 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have filled in the hCalendar profile page: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-profile Hopefully I have done it correctly. Please check it for accuracy. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.or

[uf-discuss] No profile document for hCalendar?

2006-12-31 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, The hCalendar specification lists this as the profile URL: http://microformats.org/wiki/hcalendar-profile But that page is empty. Is the specification's URL incorrect? Can someone provide the correct URL? /Roger ___ microformats-discuss m

[uf-discuss] Are these hCalendar properties: attendee, contact, organizer, rdate, rrule, method? They are not present in the cheat sheet.

2006-12-30 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, In the hCalendar specification, in the section "More Semantic Equivalents", it mentions these properties: - ATTENDEE - CONTACT - ORGANIZER And in the section "Human vs. Machine readable", it mentions these properties: - RDATE - RRULE And on the FAQ page it mentions this property: -

[uf-discuss] Useful to have multiple links that provide the same tag?

2006-12-24 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Suppose that my web page contains information about juice machines. I want to tag my web page with "juicer". There are several "tag spaces" that I could use: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/juicer"; rel="tag">Wikipedia entry for juicer http://www.technorati.com/tag/juicer"; rel="tag">Oth

RE: [uf-discuss] ANN: hCard Tutorial

2006-12-19 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] ANN: hCard Tutorial In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >I have created a tutorial on how to markup (X)HTML documents using the >hCard properties: > >http://www.xfront.com/microformats/h

RE: [uf-discuss] Comments from IBM/Lotus rep about Microformats

2006-12-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Mike Schinkel wrote: > The core problem is no strategies have been adopted to avoid naming > collisions, and to avoid having the whole concept self destruct from it's > own weight of complexity. People who want to contribute but can't because > the centralized Microformat community is not interest

[uf-discuss] ANN: hCard Tutorial

2006-12-04 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have created a tutorial on how to markup (X)HTML documents using the hCard properties: http://www.xfront.com/microformats/hCard.html Comments welcome. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org htt

[uf-discuss] Best Practice for wrapping hCard information with geo, for display on Google Earth?

2006-11-30 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I am when using Brian Suda's xhtml2kml.xsl tool to create a KML file from an hCard. Then I display the KML on Google Earth. What is the best practice for wrapping hCard data with geo, which will result in the most informative rendering on Google Earth? Let me explain what I mean. Con

[uf-discuss] Is class="vcard fn" illegal?

2006-11-24 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I ran this through Brian Suda's xhtml2vcard.xsl tool and it gave no output: Mr. John Q. Public, MD Why is it not legal? I thought that I could optimize using multiple property names in a class attribute? I guess I don't understand when multiple property names can and cannot be us

RE: RE: [uf-discuss] Best Practice for fn and n?

2006-11-05 Thread Costello, Roger L.
: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:55 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: RE: [uf-discuss] Best Practice for fn and n? On 11/5/06, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks Brian. I intuitively figured there was something wrong with > using an empty abbr element. >

RE: [uf-discuss] Best Practice for fn and n?

2006-11-05 Thread Costello, Roger L.
de your empty 'abbr', so why not just remove the 'abbr' and move the class='fn' to the same data as the class='n' Mr. John Q. Public, M.D./> On 11/5/06, Costello, Roger L.

[uf-discuss] Best Practice for fn and n?

2006-11-05 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Here is some HTML text that I want to markup using the hCard fn and n properties: Today's speaker is Mr. John Q. Public, M.D. I propose marking it up in this fashion: Today's speaker is Mr. John Q. Public,

RE: [uf-discuss] "type" subproperty in the hCard logo property?

2006-11-03 Thread Costello, Roger L.
xtract the TYPE property from the @src string if possible. Do you have an example of a place you think you NEED a type defined on an image? -brian On 11/3/06, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > The vcard specification says that the logo property may have a

[uf-discuss] "type" subproperty in the hCard logo property?

2006-11-03 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, The vcard specification says that the logo property may have a type subproperty to indicate the format of the logo image (e.g., gif, jpeg). However, as I look at the hCard specification it does not show the logo property as having a type subproperty. Is that a typo? /Roger ___

[uf-discuss] Mashup a Web page containing geo microformats with Google Earth?

2006-11-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, (Bear with me if I am not using the right terminology) This is a vision I have in mind ... Suppose I have an ordinary HTML web page. Embedded in the web page are a number of geo microformats. The web page has a link to, say, a Javascript file. When the web page is loaded in a browse

RE: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-11-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Osolkowski Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:44 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty On 11/2/06, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A tho

RE: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-11-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
quot;value" subproperty In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Design #3 > >John > will be our speaker. Mr. Public will talk about ... >What are the pros and cons to each design? A "pro" for #3 is that users

RE: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-11-02 Thread Costello, Roger L.
t the existing HTML presentation. /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Boggs Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:04 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty &qu

RE: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-11-01 Thread Costello, Roger L.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Mabbett Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 4:34 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTEC

[uf-discuss] RE: Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-10-31 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Does anyone have thoughts on the below issue I raised a couple days ago? /Roger -Original Message- From: Costello, Roger L. Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 6:16 PM To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject: Best practice for the "value" subproperty Hi Folks

[uf-discuss] Best practice for the "value" subproperty

2006-10-29 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Suppose that I want to markup this HTML text using the hCard properties: John will be our speaker. Mr. Public will talk about ... Notice that the name (John Public) is not consecutive, it is scattered. To extract the name from this text we use the "value" subproperty: Design

RE: [uf-discuss] Value subproperty - only appliesto non-structuredproperties, right?

2006-10-29 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hey Brian, You wrote: >> >> John >> will be our speaker. Mr. >> Public >> >> > --- this would ONLY apply to FN in this example because class="value" is > NOT a child of class="given-name" But in the example class="value" is a child of both "n" and "fn", right? So why

RE: [uf-discuss] Value subproperty - only applies to non-structuredproperties, right?

2006-10-29 Thread Costello, Roger L.
al Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of brian suda Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2006 9:41 AM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Value subproperty - only applies to non-structuredproperties, right? Costello, Roger L. wrote: > Hi Folks,

[uf-discuss] Value subproperty - only applies to non-structured properties, right?

2006-10-29 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Suppose that I want to markup this HTML text using the hCard properties: John will be our speaker. Mr. Public will talk about ... Notice that the name (John Public) is not consecutive, it is scattered. Thus, this would not be the correct way to markup the HTML text: John wil

[uf-discuss] RE: Disconnect between hCard and RFC 2426 (vCard specification)?

2006-10-22 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I sent this message a couple days ago and got no response, so I am resending. Does anyone have thoughts on the issue I raised? /Roger -Original Message- From: Costello, Roger L. Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 12:02 PM To: microformats-discuss@microformats.org Subject

RE: [uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats

2006-10-16 Thread Costello, Roger L.
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Unsworth Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:56 PM To: Microformats Discuss Subject: RE: [uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, Costello, Roger L. wrote: > Thanks a lot Tantek. That's exactly the kind of feedba

RE: [uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats

2006-10-15 Thread Costello, Roger L.
ts.html Thanks! /Roger -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tantek Çelik Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 8:20 PM To: microformats-discuss Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats On 10/14/06 1:50 PM, "Costello, Roger L

[uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats

2006-10-14 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, I have written a short presentation titled, The Purpose of Microformats. http://www.xfront.com/microformats/Purpose-of-Microformats.html I welcome your comments and suggestions. /Roger ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discu

RE: [uf-discuss] Four questions about hCard

2006-10-08 Thread Costello, Roger L.
ambiguous? * Any suggestions on making the resource mentioned a bit more salient? (easier to find, easier to read?) Thanks. Ben On 10/7/06, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/7/06, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > 1. Can an orga

[uf-discuss] Four questions about hCard

2006-10-07 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, 1. Can an organization have an hCard? 2. Is the property "n" (name) mandatory? 3. The property "n" is composed of these subproperties: family-name, given-name, additional-name, name-prefix, name-suffix. Which of the subproperties are mandatory, which are optional? 4. If "n" is mandat

[uf-discuss] Process to handle decentralized creation of new microformats?

2006-10-01 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, This community is awesome! Microformats are awesome! At the present time the creation of new microformats is centralized, to this list. And this community has an excellent process established for creating microformats. What happens when creating microformats becomes decentralized; th

[uf-discuss] Automatic conversion of XML to microformat and vice versa; recommendation for handling XML attributes?

2006-08-27 Thread Costello, Roger L.
Hi Folks, Microformat newbie here, so please bear with me if my questions are misguided. That said, from the reading I have done on microformats, I am really excited about it! I am converting an XML document to a microformat. I want to design the microformat in a fashion such that I will be abl