On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:26 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
>
> All outstanding hCard and hCalendar issues have been resolved (except
> for dtend).
>
> If over the past several years you raised an issue on the wiki
> regarding hCard and/or hCalendar, or if you work on an hCard/hCalendar
> implementation,
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jonathan Malek
wrote:
>
> > You're right--we inherit from hAtom. After reading David James' post
> > on issues with hSlice:
> >
> > http://blogmatrix.blogmatrix.com/:entry:blogmatrix-2008-03-05-/
>
> Ugh...chalk it up to 3 weeks of vacation. David, I would gu
These are all in reference to this page:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hatom-issues
(1)
I've added a "vote" to many issues on _whether_ something should be
included in hAtom 0.2 (as opposed to deferring it for later). If it's
important to you, vote it up.
(2)
I've added a number of "ToDo" notes,
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Tantek Celik wrote:
> David Janes wrote:
>
>> I'm in to help. I've been hesitating because the uF process sometimes
>> gives me indigestion, but I think it's time we hit this one.
>
> David really glad to hear you're in t
it
> makes sense to include in hAtom 0.2 or not.
>
> Finally, we'll need an editor (hopefully David Janes, but he's agreed
> to let me co-edit in the event he is too busy to do so) to incorporate
> these changes in 0.2.
I'm in to help. I've been hesitating becaus
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Martin McEvoy wrote:
> 1 "the HTML version of" or just HTML
> 2 The Greek letter micro μ (Mu) inverted
> 3 In hAtom, it the Irish pronunciation of "h" next to a vowel which is
> softly spoken with a strong spoken "A" as in "hay" (is this correct David?)
> 4 The "H"
On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Martin McEvoy wrote:
>
> Brian Suda wrote:
>>
>> http://www.mediastandardstrust.org/medianews/newsdetails.aspx?sid=46551
>>
>> Has anyone heard about the APs attempt to make a microformat? Did i
>> miss something or did they just go and do their own thing?
>>
>
> I
Actually, the "h" in hAtom comes from the preferred way we
Irish-descended Newfoundlanders prefer to pronounce words beginning
with a vowel sound -- i.e. you should be saying it as two syllables,
not three ;-)
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On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Toby Inkster wrote:
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> On Thu, 2009-
of other contact schemas too).
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:55 AM, David Janes wrote:
>>
>> I've been playing about with representing microformats ... hCard in
>> particular ... efficiently and usefully into JSON-type data
>> structures. Here's a blog post
I've been playing about with representing microformats ... hCard in
particular ... efficiently and usefully into JSON-type data
structures. Here's a blog post on the topic [1].
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t; containing elements.
>
> Perhaps I should an example to the hAtom examples page to show this usage of
> the author property.
Is this not though, just a general property of microformats in
general? I.e. that the semantic information is being encoded at the
property level and bundled at
examples?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jeremy
Interesting question. I believe the intention was that the expanded
form would be OK, not because of a non-semantic head or tail within
the hCard, but because there could be non-semantic text in the middle,
e.g.
Written by David Jane
what the product is ... a "book", a "dvd"
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rs will only take the ISO date information from a
> title attribute of an abbr tag. So if you recode the element as follows
> we should be able to parse the date correctly.
>
> Incorrect:
> 17
> minutes ago
>
> to
> title="2009-01-31T13:55:33+00:00">
; things with it.
>
> Hope it's what you where looking for
>
> Glenn Jones
>
Isn't bookmarks.html obsolete now?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks.html
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n [1]
where a solution, if needed, should be found. Within that, datetimes
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pp to another, can make a
> huge difference.
>
> You can have a look at it here:
> http://lexandera.com/mosembro/
>
> Regards,
> Aleksander
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>>> the content successfully. Thanks!
>>
>> Hello James,
>>
>> Also tested working at
>> http://transformr.co.uk/hatom/http://microformats.tumblr.com/
>
> Interestingly enough there is a FOAF file too
> http://transformr.co.uk/hfoaf/http
Hmmm ... HTML Tidy on this gets upset at the DISQUS script line:
document.write('
e.
Note that hAtom's purpose is not to provide "feeds" for anything: it's
a way of semantically marking up certain types of data on pages.
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; I believe that fear,
> if left unaddressed, will kill the microformat effort. Has there been
> any discussion of this?
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folks while I'm there. And I'm hoping to make it to a Microformat meetup
> dinners one of these weeks in San Francisco.
>
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> On 17 Oct 2008, at 13:54, David Janes wrote:
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>> I just read [1] about Yahoo's new profiles. Does anyone know if
>> Microformats are supported?
>
> There are some.
>
> You connectio
I just read [1] about Yahoo's new profiles. Does anyone know if
Microformats are supported?
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t; Regardless, they're new uses, so if you're interested in pursuing this
> further, please take it to the -new list:
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> http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-new/
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> Peace,
> Scott
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That's better ... very embarrassing :-(
Now please try it!
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> Oops ... a little bug if you're not logged in ... one second...
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:31 AM
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> Please come over to Onaswarm and try our Social Network Explorer.
> Here's the brief blurb
>
> Onaswarm is now provides a i
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something that a once-a-week message be
sent out, say the day before it's to be published.
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t SGFooCamp -- that the
social (XFN) graph is a subset of some other graph representing other
relations:
rel=celebrates
rel=attended
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that all three pieces of information are
> > available to a spider application:
> >
> > 1. The source individual (e.g. Dan Connolly)
> >
> > 2. The relationship ("knows")
> >
> > 3. The target individual (e.g. James Tauber)
> >
> > I do
rks that use XFN (special thanks to
> > David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use
> > FOAF.
>
> Why email these, why not just put them on the wiki?
>
> -ryan
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ks that use XFN (special thanks to
> David Janes). Following that is a list of social networks that use
> FOAF.
>
> Also is a sample link to a publicly accessible profile in each network
> that exhibits the use of XFN (or FOAF).
>
> To see how XFN is being used, type
and I was done.
>
> How do you know that the hCard matches to the XFN, particularly if the
> XFN is not embedded within the hCard?
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> David Janes wrote:
>
> > FOAF is, quite frankly, an ugly mess. This, based on my experience of
> > trying to code to extract useful information out of it rather than just
> > an opin
, but
there's only so much digging I'm willing to do.
And someone can ask the people at livejournal what 'foaf:image' is, or
everyone else what 'foaf:img' does.
>
> Hopefully, I am missing something. I really like the simplicity of XFN
> and its rich se
ards, etc...
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Toby A Inkster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > But I'm seeing this in a lot of places in this sort of context:
> >
> >
> >David Janes (dpjanes)
> >
> >
> >
Is there some sort of magic rule for combining hCards and XFN?
XFN is marking up a A link with a rel=, i.e.
David Janes
But I'm seeing this in a lot of places in this sort of context:
David Janes (dpjanes)
And various variations. Obviously this is ripe for hCardization, but
is th
Two funny things:
- Typepad uses FOAF, but I can't find a single example of non-trivial FOAF files
- When I'm searching for foaf & xfn stuff right now on Google, this
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> On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:59 PM, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Last.fm XFN
&g
em that XFN provides a richer and lighter-weight set of
> information and would be a better choice for social networks.
>
> WHY IS THERE SUCH LITTLE USE OF XFN BY SOCIAL NETWORKS?
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> On 10/3/08 10:20, "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > - I'll be doing the hAtom 0.2 stuff Real Soon Now ;-)
> > - you can safely assume that th
hor section [2] says:
>
> "an Entry SHOULD have at least one Entry Author element"
>
> Should this be a MUST?
>
> Also in a blog post [3] David Janes suggests that hAtom 0.2 may drop the
> author and updated/created requirements. Any idea if/when this will happen
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eas (or flew me to Redmond for consultants ;-) My
thought would be to do something like this:
... the webslice ...
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m following the "process" and Poshifying my site.
>
> I have added a few new tags, rel="spouse", rel="colleague" on my
> WordPress blog I am curious how these get used. I have installed
> Operator and Tail Export on Firefox, I can't see anything show up
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> I've been toying with based upon some borrowed code from
> microformats.org, but I'm not sure if I'm re-inventing the wheel or if
> this is even needed.
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> > On Jan 4, 2008 2:45 PM, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROT
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did you do) and projection (what are you going
to do).
They're suggesting that you're much more likely to provide semantic
information about "Julie" if you were willing to do the simple
operating of adding (for example) 'class='vcard'" to the A
years) in response to my
question why he wasn't using XFN + hCard for a project:
| The biggest problem with microformats is that nobody gets it.
| If I tell a programmer its an XML vocabulary, then he says "gotch ya".
| If I tell a programmer its microformats, then he says "micro
;t particularly think it's worth
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hcard to
> declare using microschema.
LINK is only valid inside of HEAD, not BODY so this is invalid (X)HTML [1].
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On 9/10/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/10/07, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As at least two people missed that, it may be worthwhile to make it
> > more obvious. I think hCard does this a little more clearly, with an
> > asteris
On 9/10/07, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sep 10, 2007, at 10:39 AM, David Janes wrote:
>
> >> The first suggests a must and the second a should. It's just a bit
> >> confusing, so any help to iron that out would be fabulous. :)
> >
>
Entry Updated element"
>
> The first suggests a must and the second a should. It's just a bit
> confusing, so any help to iron that out would be fabulous. :)
See the last line of that section [1]; I think this will resolve the
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we get the hAtom rules.
If there's an inconsistency in the hAtom spec, please point it out and
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date and the
updated date and you want to expose this information, you'd be best to
use both.
The peculiarities, such as they are, in this rule come from the
intersection of the MUST requirements in Atom and the real world
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> As Frances mentions, most people just use "updated", but if your
> underlying CMS knows the difference between the publish date and the
> updated date and you want to expose this information, you'd be best to
>
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xplains why
permalinks are sub-optimal as IDs.
Can you push this into the Wiki Ben? This may make a very good
recommendation for hAtom 0.2.
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Microformats are bits of human readable data tagged so that a machine
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being a way to tag many things.
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On Wed, June 27, 2007 3:43 pm, David Janes wrote:
> On 6/27/07, John Beales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > FYI:
>> > <http://www.eu.socialtext.net/hRelease/>
>> > --
>> > An
and use the microformats
name. I brought this up a few months ago actually....
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tion of the Wiki. "atom:id"
is not part of hAtom yet, though it may be in 0.2.
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On 6/1/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:59 AM, David Janes wrote:
> I concur. Time to start ramping up for hAtom 0.2, if I can get some
> blocks of free time.
I'm more than willing to help. I have time to spend on it right now.
I'll work o
in the spec that says it doesn't. Whether one wants
to use this or not is up to the parser. I hasten to add that there's
reason I can see for including the DOM node where "entry-title" is
indicated, since concatenation is not an issue.
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On 6/1/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On May 31, 2007, at 11:29 AM, David Janes wrote:
> On 5/31/07, Ryan King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> Another option is that entry content is:
>>
>> Content
>> More Content
>>
>>
>>
On 6/1/07, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 5/31/07, David Janes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought it did markup! I totally see what you are saying here
> though; the question here is whether we include the DOM nodes that
> specify entry-content. This isn&#
is whether we include the DOM nodes that
specify entry-content. This isn't in the spec, and you wouldn't want
to do it everywhere (entry-title, for example) but it would make sense
if it did.
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ne), or
4. something else entirely?
I need to think more about this, though I'm fairly certain the answer
should be (1).
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ty good example why hAtom isn't "just about syndication"
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easure thrice, cut once. Also would be a better place to record votes
than e-mails.
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ted that really isn't there.
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ou have to make sure the URI shown in BASE is the right
thing!
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htt
thought u might be a good port of call...
The reason that there has been little discussion is that the rules for
dealing with this are well understood and settled. This document [1]
will give you everything you need -- written in 1995.
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[1] http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1808.txt
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