Hi all,
On May 1, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
It's telling that the Project:Copyrights link is to a page which
has yet to be created.
Yeah, that's pretty embarrassing. Can anyone comment on whether the
edit blurb is inaccurate, or someone just forgot to create the
Copyright?
Hi Tantek,
On May 1, 2007, at 8:17 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
I apologize for the summary blocking without warning, but it is
unfortunately the required response to summary global editing of
the wiki
without warning.
I appreciate that these are difficult decisions to make, and that you
at
Hi Tantek,
On May 1, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
AndyMabbett and Gazza, apologies for the inconvenience of the
temporary
blocking. Thanks very much for your patience. Blocks have been
removed.
Wow, that was fast. Thanks for the quick resolution.
Best wishes,
-- Ernie P.
Hi Andy,
On Apr 28, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I can't prevent people from calling cats dogs either, but I'm
certainly going to say something when it happens.
This isn't case of people calling cats dogs; it's closer to the
dispute over whether a Jack Russell Terrier is a breed
Hi Jeremy,
On Apr 27, 2007, at 9:49 AM, Jeremy Keith wrote:
However, the datetime can also be written with dashes and colons
like this:
title=2007-03-12T17:00:00
http://microformats.org/wiki/datetime-design-pattern
Would everyone agree that, for the sake of screen reader users, we
should
Hi Andy,
On Apr 27, 2007, at 11:21 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr. Ernie
Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
That's a point-of view, but not a definitive fact. Who says it's
not a microformat? With what authority?
Um, is there any authority you *would* accept
The later is now done - every singe Wikipedia article which publishes
coordinates (and that includes, cities, neighbourhoods, transport
stations, hotels, hospitals, mountains, museums, etc. etc.) using a
template (and there are many thousands) now includes Geo ;-)
Yeah! This is a real
Hi all,
On Mar 19, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar wrote:
Therefore, I believe that the administrators ought to either:
a) remove his moderation constraint
or
b) publicly state why they are not removing it
http://microformats.org/wiki/governance-issues
On Mon Mar 19 07:34:50 PST
Hi all,
With only two weeks left in Lent, I still haven't done enough
penance, so I figure I need to up the ante. :-)
I didn't see any response to my governance proposal http://urlx.org/
microformats.org/56ce1, so let me make a more specific request. I
for one fully supported the
Hi all,
On Feb 26, 2007, at 1:39 PM, James Craig wrote:
I am not implying the uf group step to the deliberation level of
ISO or the W3C, but some issues should not be noted as REJECTED by
an individual, at least not without fair consideration and voting.
If this process exists, or if there
Hi Christopher,
On Feb 20, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Christopher St John wrote:
Check out the 2.0 spec. There are some changes:
http://openid.net/specs/openid-authentication-2_0-11.html
It introduces XRI into the mix (think brand new, non-DNS
naming system) Wouldn't expect it to work so well in an a
Hi Roger,
The point of XOXO is that you can trivially encode arrays and
dictionaries in straight HTML. In particular, you can use it as an
alternative to, e.g., JSON, for generic data structures:
http://microformats.org/wiki/rest/datatypes
Somebody's even written a whole blog about such
Hi Joe,
On Feb 2, 2007, at 8:22 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Third, although few people like a gadfly, it appears that my
efforts are
making some sort of difference, as evidenced by the IRC above and
changes to the wiki. Following Ben's argument, all evidence
suggests my
opposition is working.
Hi Joe,
On Feb 1, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Joe Andrieu wrote:
Or, if taking Andy off moderation has simply been overlooked, ok.
Mistakes happen. In which case he should be allowed to post
normally and
we should remember as a community that we don't have the
wherewithal to
manage fine-tuned
Hi Chris,
On Jan 6, 2007, at 2:45 AM, Chris Messina wrote:
I think the point is that anyone should be able to build out and see
through the execution and development of a microformats, potentially
entirely outside of this list, simply by religiously adhering to the
principals by which we
Hi all,
On Jan 3, 2007, at 5:42 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
That being said, I still believe it is important to track *any*
outstanding
issue - even meta-issues like governance, so that we as community
don't
forget them, and have the opportunity/reminder resolve them, even
if it
takes a
Hi Andy,
On Jan 3, 2007, at 3:38 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I recommend you voluntarily refrain from emailing microformats
lists for 24
hours at this point. One more meta-discussion email from you
after you have
been asked to stop will be grounds for banning from the lists.
Voluntary
Hi Andy,
On Dec 12, 2006, at 2:35 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
Are the community happy for extra restrictions to be added to the
'wiki' in this unilateral way? Or is the community's ownership of
work
on microformats and its 'wiki' a myth?
Speaking for myself, I am grateful for Tantek's
may not believe or agree with that definition (not all of us do
either :-), but that's the rules we play by here. If you want a more
generic approach, you might be happier with GRDDL.
Cheers,
-- Ernie P.
On Dec 8, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
On 12/8/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
Hi Brian,
On Dec 5, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Brian Suda wrote:
All comments, suggestions, etc. are welcome.
http://suda.co.uk/projects/microformats/cheatsheet/
Beautiful work; I love the table on the right!
One question: why not use ? for single occurence optional, and +
for one or more, like
/Template:cheatsheet-key
This makes it easier to keep everything consistent, but results in
unused items being present on some pages.
The tradeoff seems worthwhile to me -- what do the rest of you think?
-- Ernie P.
On Dec 5, 2006, at 12:54 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr.
Ernie
Hi Brian,
On Dec 5, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Brian Suda wrote:
--- i think there was an reason why i didn't use ?, +, * (but i can't
remember at the moment). The One or More is the UTF currency sign,
for me it is sort of emtpy circle with a cross through it - if they
are too similar, i can look into
Hi all,
At Andy's invitation, I redid all the cheatsheets to use a common,
regex-style key:
http://microformats.org/wiki/Template:cheatsheet-key
Specifically:
http://microformats.org/wiki/adr-cheatsheet
http://microformats.org/wiki/geo-cheatsheet
Hi Ryan,
Sure, whatever -- as long as it is legal HTML, it shouldn't be a
problem. You might want to check how S5 handles it:
http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/xoxo-structure-ref.html
Cheers,
- enp
On Nov 12, 2006, at 2:24 PM, Ryan Cannon wrote:
Greetings list,
I've looked around for
Hi MIke,
I think we may the victim of a major miscommunication, aggravated by
the choice of subject. Let me start over, to see if I understand.
resolve this one specific use case.) Consider these three URLs:
http://www.foo.com/toyota/4runner/1999/
Hi Mike,
Your always welcome to use HTML class name semantics or other
microformat-inspired technologies in your private applications.
However, that is a different thing that calling it a microformat
and engaging this whole group in vetting and supporting it.
If you think this could be
Nice summary! I agree the issues are non-trivial, but I'm glad
somebody is hashing them out...
On Oct 5, 2006, at 7:20 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote:
Scott,
Thanks for the in-depth reply, lots of good points! I've mulled it
over and here are a few thoughts.
On 10/5/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL
Hi all,
On Sep 28, 2006, at 4:12 AM, Drew McLellan wrote:
What if I was to mark up the form (and fields) with hCard classes?
Good idea? Bad idea? I strikes me that it could be useful for auto-
complete applications, but not sure if it would ‘pollute’ the web
with effectively a useless/empty
HI Paolo,
In general hidden microformats are frowned upon, as they cause all
sorts of problems. Could you give an example of the types of
hidden information you want/need to provide?
-- Ernie P.
On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:56 PM, Paolo Negri wrote:
Hi there
This is my first post here,
to build the uformats are well spreaded on it so I have to put
the main div or whatever at a very high level of the dom which is
not really nice because it tends to group even some items that are not
really in his context.
Paolo
On 27/09/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HI Paolo
Hi all,
Jeffrey Harris from OSAF was kind enough to point me to the hCalendar
support in top-of-tree of vobject:
http://svn.osafoundation.org/vobject/trunk/
Specifically, this class:
http://svn.osafoundation.org/vobject/trunk/src/vobject/hcalendar.py
Anybody feel like testing it out
Hi Paul,
On Aug 29, 2006, at 9:06 AM, Paul Kinlan wrote:
Hi,
This is going to sound pretty trivial, and I hope that no one minds me
asking this.
I am looking for a way to do Top 10's. I don't want to suggest a
Microformat or anything for this. But I was wondering if anyone has
experience
Hi Paul,
On Aug 29, 2006, at 10:11 AM, Paul Kinlan wrote:
Yeah, I would like to be able to understand what the list is about,
so something like a title would give a good descriptive meaning to
what the items in the list relate to.
For instance the title could be Favorite Films, obviously the
Hi all,
I believe some of this was discussed earlier in the week, but
apologies if I missed anything relevant. Anyway, Apple's new
Calendaring server:
http://collaboration.macosforge.org/
Uses vobject for ics parsing and generation:
Hi all,
I apologize if this might be off-topic, but I'm honestly curious and
would like to understand this better:
http://www.bnode.org/archives2/58
eRDF:
(+) follows the microformats principles
http://research.talis.com/2005/erdf/wiki/Main/RdfInHtml
From my admittedly naive perspective,
I concur with Tantek -- possibly the best concise yet comprehensive
summary to date. I plan to pass it around quite a bit.
Go Phil!
-- Ernie P.
On May 11, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Phil Haack wrote:
Hey All,
A little while ago I mentioned I was writing an article on
Microformats and
solicited
Cool!
I wonder if there's a way to syndicate that page so I can feed it
directly into iTunes. Hmm, if our wiki used hAtom markup...
-- Ernie P.
On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:14 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Greetings,
Since there have been several recent podcasts where microformats
have been
Hi Joe,
Is this format-of-formats already done? If so, I apologize, can you
point me to it? If not, what has been done and would it be premature
for me to start work on such a draft specification (after much
feedback from everybody here, of course)?
This is actually an FAQ, and a fairly
, something
*does* manage to boil the ocean. :-)
-- Ernie P.
On Mar 30, 2006, at 9:28 AM, Joe Reger, Jr. wrote:
On 3/30/06, Dr. Ernie Prabhakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Joe,
Is this format-of-formats already done? If so, I apologize, can you
point me to it? If not, what has been done
Hi all,
While reading yet another design tutorial for Web 2.0 sties:
http://snyke.net/blog/2006/03/25/site-design-using-prototype/
I ran across the Behaviour JavaScript library:
http://bennolan.com/behaviour/
Using CSS selectors to apply JavaScript behaviors
I'm not sure I understand it
Hi all,
Gosh, its been quiet here lately. I'm revving up to give my ol'
microformats talk again this Friday, and wanted to know if there's a
good parser that works with Firefox 1.5. Any suggestions?
http://microformats.org/wiki/Greasemonkey
-- Ernie P.
Yeah, exactly like that. :-)
Thanks, I'll add it to the wiki.
On Mar 14, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Pete Prodoehl wrote:
http://blog.codeeg.com/tails-firefox-extension/
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Hi Tantek,
On Feb 2, 2006, at 11:07 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Ernie, if you think there are obvious holes, document them on the
to-do
page, because to the rest of us, there are no obvious holes, only
numerous
things we can do to improve the site.
My apologies, I didn't mean that to come
Hi Ryan,
Coming up with a concrete, finite list of things remaining to do
seems like a very useful idea to me. Even if people disagree with
your list, that would at least help us get focused on the end goal...
-- Ernie P.
On Jan 30, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Ryan King wrote:
So, it seems that
Hi Tantek,
On Jan 4, 2006, at 2:02 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Are you suggesting we put in a stub page on the wiki for everything we
re-use from HTML 4.01?
(not a rhetorical question)
I do think there is value in having *something* on our wiki for
underused elements from HTML that are much
Hi all,
I ran across this on the atom list, and wanted to pass it along in
case anybody was working on a newspaper markup format. I suspect
that this should ultimately be built around hAtom, but I'm not sure
where (if anywhere) in belongs on the current wiki. They also seem
interested
On 12/1/05 8:23 PM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I'd go ahead and play around with a microformat-based
alternative to Google Base.
Kudos, Scott! The best revenge is a happy life, but second-best (or
perhaps the first step to that) is working code. :-)
-- Ernie P.
On
Hi Abramo,
On Dec 2, 2005, at 1:54 PM, Abramo Bagnara wrote:
Can we reach an agreement that to use a namespace for microformats
specific classes is a good thing?
That is an interesting question. I know that Rohit has been asking
that same question. The conventional answer is that
Hi Scott,
On Dec 1, 2005, at 12:57 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
I'm hoping to use vevent as an AJAX tranfser format. I'm looking
for a Safari-compatible JavaScript vevent parser for an intranet
application (Safari is our default browser). Closest I've found is
David's microformat.user.js [1],
Hi Luke,
On Nov 30, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
That would be great; I'd love some help from people more
experienced in this
area.
Do have a look at the discussions on serialiasation and XOXO over
REST we've had here.
As Kevin said, this does sound very similar to what we're
Hi David,
On Nov 16, 2005, at 1:06 AM, David Janes -- BlogMatrix wrote:
I just wanted to note the use of alternates as a pattern here --
i.e. a blog's URI + alternate URIs. We've seen this pattern before
during discussions of MediaRSS as a profile for encoding alternates
of the same
Hi Tantek,
On Nov 16, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:
Ok, I'll put it yet another way.
The specific addition that Phil was asking for was for which
properties went
inside which other properties.
While it may seem this makes writing a generic parser easier for a
specific
instance,
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