On 10/20/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So I am just starting to grok how you have been using vs.
/ but practically what I remember hearing and reading to date was
that classes and titles can be equally applied to any HTML element, so that
made me think they were all equal. But wh
ge-
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On 10/19/06, Brian Suda <[EM
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Hi, I've been following this discussion and I would like to add that you
might even get more characters than com
aspect for
markup. Then it could be a lot smaller for default cases, even in multibyte
character sets.
P.P.S. Sure we can't just lobby the W3C to approve REL tags and maybe a few
more for all (X)HTML elements? :-) :-) :-)
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Hi, I've been following this discussion and I would like to add that
you might even get more characters than commas and periods inside an
ammount (which would make the regexp even more complex).. according to
this guide http://www.thefinancials.com/vortex/CurrencyFormats.html
you might have: ' use
On 10/19/06, Ciaran McNulty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
For instance, we could introduce the implied optimisation that if
there is no explicit 'amount' then the amount could be taken to be
everything inside the 'money' that isn't the 'currency'.
i.e. $5.99 would be equivalent to your example
abo
On 10/19/06, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I personally like this idea:
$5.99
It has worked well for ADR, TEL, EMAIL in hCard and is also being
explored for UIDs.
I like that idea too, there've been a few similar variations suggested
and they seem the right general approach.
I think i
On 10/18/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
However, at the risk of being shot for heresy, has anyone considered allowing
this?
$5.99
35.66 kr
--- one of the main goals of microformats is to make data Human
Readable. Which means visible. In your examples the USD and
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On 10/18/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:54 PM, Stephen Paul Weber wrote:
>> I'd propose this as an alternative:
>> $5.99
What happened to:
$5.99
I continue to prefer that, but I think Mike is pushing for less
verbose markup, and I'm trying to explore how less verbose markup
could communicate the same inf
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I've starting replying to this a few times
or heresy. :)
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I
nimum form like I'm proposing.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
P.S. On another note, another question just occurred to me: why are
you using "money" and not "hMoney?"
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y earlier mistake of including [A-Za-z] was the main
reason you objected and that you'll agree with a small scope minimum form like
I'm proposing.
-Mike Schinkel
http://www.mikeschinkel.com/blog
http://www.welldesignedurls.org/
P.S. On another note, another question just occurred to
On Oct 14, 2006, at 3:27 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Your examples seem to leave a lot of ambiguity about what things
mean,
I'm new to proposing microformats, so I clearly have a lot to
learn, but
that said I don't see where what I was proposing was ambiguous. Can
you give
me explicit exampl
idea.
-Mike
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On Oct 14, 2006, at 3:42 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>>> I think your use of the title attribute in these examples contains
>>> two
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>>>£1 was worth 2.50 dollars
>
>Those are edge cases which require additional complexity. I'm
>advocating that edge cases, which are certainly in the 20 percentile or
>less have the complexity whereas the more common
tree to
get it right, we would have been put off implementing it for a good long
while if ever. JMTCW.
-Mike
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be possible to
support *both* a long name and an abbreviation. If I misunderstood, sorry
for my missing the point.
-Mike
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On Oct 14, 2006, at 3:42 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
I think your use of the title attribute in these examples
contains two
bad practices
Hmm. I see your point, and being new to this I'm learning from your
examples.
OTOH, I also see that the proposals I first viewed as being very
complex
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>It's easy to get confused about what 'fn' means, since it could easily
>stand for family name, though it doesn't. (I'm not exactly sure what
>it stands for, though I assume it means "formatted name" even though
>it's not exp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Schinkel
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>Alternately, can't the symbols be extracted as not being alphanumeric
>characters?
Consider (for example):
The £ was worth 2.50 dollars
or:
£1 was worth 2.50 dollars
>The
>currency proposal at
>http://mi
Mike Schinkel wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote:
For a program to do so, it would have to be aware of every single
alphanumeric character in Unicode. That does not just include
[A-Za-z0-9]. It might be easier to do the reverse and know of
every character that isn't a known currency symbol, but then ev
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On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
> Anyway, I
parser. Better to have just one way
until desired functionality requires multiple ways.
-Mike
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On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
Anyway, I made a proposal here:
http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-brainstorming#Mike_Schinkel
with the
idea of trying to minimize the burden placed on the author of the
HTML, and
only use lots of markup in the exceptional cases.
I thi
Mike Schinkel wrote:
Thanks for the clarification.
Further questions (and forgive me if I missed any of this before I joined):
Currency symbol identification
This is a naïve question: Doesn't the ISO 4217 code *imply* a symbol? It
appears so here: http://www.xe.com/symbols.htm Doesn't incl
. I added my vote to your poll, but only selected three of eight thinking
the rest shouldn't be included.
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In my previous table example, you should read:
price
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Mike Schinkel wrote:
This is a naïve question: Doesn't the ISO 4217 code *imply* a symbol? It
appears so here: http://www.xe.com/symbols.htm Doesn't including this in
the microformat create redundancy?
Alternately, can't the symbols be extracted as not being alphanumeric
characters?
I tend
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Mike Schinkel wrote:
> * Currency symbol identification "from other part of
Mike Schinkel wrote:
* Currency symbol identification "from other part of the text"
This means that in "$25 dollars", we would mark up "$" as the currency
symbol. See
http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-brainstorming#Andy_Mabbett under
symbol bullet for an explanation of this.
* "Global"
ot;from other part of the text"
Thanks in advance.
-Mike
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I thought I'd share these results with you. Voters were asked to select
up to 4 features in a list of 8.
We only had a handful of votes so far, so please cast yours at:
http://www.vizu.com/poll-vote.html?n=15067
Features deemed most important:
1. (100%) Currency used identification (ex. US
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