Re: History Microformat (was Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

On Sep 25, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Jeremy Boggs wrote: i would be very interested in helping to explore a "history" microformat. In my spare time, I've been collecting examples of history timelines, after discussions a few months ago on this list about the inability of using hCalendar to mark up be

Currency+Product (Was: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

On Sep 29, 2006, at 2:56 AM, Lorenzo De Tomasi wrote: A proposal can be: $/barrel 10,5 I have not yet studied "Related microformats" (I'll do it), but, if I have understood the example, another proposal can be: $ 25 a barrel What do you thi

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

Dear Guillame, Thanks for your question :-) I think that using "unit" and "value" we can create a more generalized and adaptive solution, reducing the dictionary and making it easier. A proposal can be: $/barrel 10,5 I have not yet studied "Related microformats" (I'll do it), but, if I have un

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

Lorenzo, With this approach, how would you represent the following price: $25 per barrel? Guillaume Lorenzo De Tomasi wrote: What about the following proposal? € class="value">10,5 that can also be used for othe measures like: m 10,5 Thanks for your opinion :-) On 9/27/06, Scott Rey

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

What about the following proposal? € 10,5 that can also be used for othe measures like: m 10,5 Thanks for your opinion :-) On 9/27/06, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: > class="unitcurrency" title="USD">$25 a class="unit" title

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On Sep 27, 2006, at 2:21 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: class="unitcurrency" title="USD">$25 a class="unit" title="barrel>barrel. As suggested in the currency "Related microformats" section, I think a simpler money microformat (without "unit") could be combined with hListing [1] to cover somet

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

A correction to one of my code samples: class="unitcurrency" title="USD">$25 a title="barrel>barrel. Guillaume Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Sorry if I'm only getting up-to-speed on this debate. I agree that attaching explicitly date/time information directly to a currency value is relatively rar

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

Sorry if I'm only getting up-to-speed on this debate. I agree that attaching explicitly date/time information directly to a currency value is relatively rare, and when necessary that it is usually inferred from the context. For instance, we talk of the date of the price of a barrel of oil, in

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe Andrieu >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >>> Andy, >>> >>> Your political bias is >> >> ...in your imagination. > >Andy, it seems to me that you've come increasingly more hostile to >mem

History Microformat (was Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

Hi List, On Sep 24, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Another thought is that the space of "historical data" is probably a more relevant way to discuss this than just currency. People assert all kinds of facts about the past (not just currency), and rather than having something that

History Microformat (was Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?)

Hi List, On Sep 24, 2006, at 10:45 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: Another thought is that the space of "historical data" is probably a more relevant way to discuss this than just currency. People assert all kinds of facts about the past (not just currency), and rather than having something that i

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On Sep 24, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe Andrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Andy, Your political bias is ...in your imagination. Andy, it seems to me that you've come increasingly more hostile to members of this list in the past few days. May

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Casciano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> How about this as a model: >> >> "date" is an optional component of the "currency" microformat. >> >> When date is present, parsers may disregard it. >> >> When parsers understand date, and none is

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe Andrieu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy, > >Your political bias is ...in your imagination. -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: Free Our Data: ___

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 7:25 PM, "Chris Casciano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >>> date >> >> How about this as a model: >> >> "date" is an optional component of th

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes date How about this as a model: "date" is an optional component of the "currency" microformat. When date is present, parsers may disregard it.

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Are you seriously arguing that there are more than 20% references to >explicit *historical* currency amounts in contrast to all the e- >commerce sites out there which reference "current" values as of the >date-time of the pub

RE: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

Andy Mabbett writes > No; but then again neither am I only interested in serving > the hypothetical interests of "mega-corporations". > > (Organisations who, for all we know, might be strongly > against allowing easy currency conversion on pages they've > tailored to - and discounted for - a sp

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >date How about this as a model: "date" is an optional component of the "currency" microformat. When date is present, parsers may disregard it. When parsers understand date, and none is present, the

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >The point is that "current" values are 99+% case (we can count/cite >pages on eBay, Amazon etc. if you like) which are easily represented by >using hAtom + currency, thus relegating purely historical references to >the <20% c

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 3:15 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components. > > That's absurd, and a very weak and illogical form of argument. Nobody is > suggesting any more than one optional component. You've invented the > rest. Even one additiona

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Who will be dissuaded, by the inclusion of an *optional* component? > >Because if it is unnecessary for the 80/20, we leave it out. The question was "who". > Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components. That'

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 2:13 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who will be dissuaded, by the inclusion of an *optional* component? Because if it is unnecessary for the 80/20, we leave it out. Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components. In terms of date, I suggest you look to the

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Sep 24, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>Scott >> Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >>> In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man >>> proposals with dated

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On Sep 24, 2006, at 2:19 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man proposals with dated currency. No you don't; you see two real, albeit simplified for clarity, examples [3

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >It could also be used to mark up current prices, on pages which are not >likely to be updated read: It could also be used to mark up current (AT THE TIME OF WRITING) prices, on pages which are not likely to

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Reynen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man >proposals with dated currency. No you don't; you see two real, albeit simplified for clarity, examples [3], [4], marked up according to the straw-man proposal (a

[uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

In the currency-brainstorming [1] page, I see a few straw man proposals with dated currency. But I don't see anything in currency- examples [2] with dated currency. I think I understand the general idea, that currencies change value over time, but in what currently published HTML would suc