Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 10/1/06, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think $ is a unit of measuring currency, and barrel is a unit of measuring oil, which in this case is the product the currency references. I disagree. There are plenty of other things that can be sold by the barrel, and I doubt there are

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 3, 2006, at 4:16 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: I think it's fairly clear that $ is a unit of currency, 'barrel' is a measure of volume, and $/barrel is a measure of currency/volume in its own right, similar to other composite measures like m.p.h. Sure we can conceptualize it like that, but

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Here are some additional examples from the Web of currency mixed with measures, some of which differ from the $__ per barrel pattern and a suggested new conceptualization that seems to work with them. http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-examples#Real-World_Examples Here is another

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Colin Barrett
On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Let me know what you think. I'll put this on the wiki later. The presence of UNECE codes for various units is encouraging. This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Scott Reynen
On Oct 3, 2006, at 2:17 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: Here are some additional examples from the Web of currency mixed with measures, some of which differ from the $__ per barrel pattern and a suggested new conceptualization that seems to work with them.

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Scott Reynen wrote: I think this is a good example of the benefits of modularization. I think all of these various measurements would be more useful if they were more widely published, and I think the best way to get them widely published is to keep them as separate microformats addressing

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Colin wrote: This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already described in this thread were some excellent uses for measurement + currency (e.g. searching job listings). Thanks Colin. For just the measurement format, of course

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-03 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Colin wrote: This proposal is shaping up nicely. Could you think of other client uses for just the measurement format? Already described in this thread were some excellent uses for measurement + currency (e.g. searching job listings). Thanks Colin. For just the measurement format, of course

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-02 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Scott, Please ignore my last post on the subject. As Andy M. pointed to me in another thread, I took an extreme interpretation of the process. Mea culpa. And sorry in advance for this long post. On the subject of what is useful to do now with currency, I agree with you that limiting the

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-01 Thread Scott Reynen
On Sep 29, 2006, at 5:09 PM, Guillaume Lebleu wrote: I don't think Lorenzo is talking of: *currency amount per item/ product* as your title and example imply (that, I agree, is a non- starter) but of *currency amount per unit of measurement* (which is widely used - see for instance:

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-10-01 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
Scott, My feeling is that if we must start with the simplest form of useful data and pave the cow paths, then price in hListing is good enough for me, and there is no need to pave that currency path for now, or even discuss it, at least not on this discussion list: * Google says that the

[uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-09-29 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
I don't think Lorenzo is talking of: *currency amount per item/product* as your title and example imply (that, I agree, is a non-starter) but of *currency amount per unit of measurement* (which is widely used - see for instance: http://www.bloomberg.com/energy/, although not in the context of

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Currency + Unit of measurement (Was: Currency+Product)

2006-09-29 Thread Guillaume Lebleu
One little correction in the text below. The following rules should be used: * unit is optional * if unit is present, then value is optional, and if value not present, then it is assumed to be 1. Guillaume Guillaume Lebleu wrote: I don't think Lorenzo is talking of: *currency amount