Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> What I was getting at was that the typical wine consumer and the >>> content providers catering to wine consumers are less interested in the >>> scientific classification of a particular grape or yeast and more >>> intereste

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread James Jory
Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works for parts of the wine industry. Thank you - but which parts of the wine industry uses grapes and yeast which are (or were

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>> Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly >>>works >>> for parts of the wine industry. >>> >> Thank you - but which parts of the wine industry uses grapes and >>yeast >> which are (or were) not living t

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread James Jory
Andy Mabbett wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes Andy Mabbett wrote: It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Frances Berriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >Andy Mabbett wrote: >> It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, >> indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: > >Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works >for parts o

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread James Jory
Andy Mabbett wrote: > It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, > indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microformat. Say: Yes, I've looked at "species" for this purpose and it certainly works for parts of the wine industry. However, at this point at least, we're more interested

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Frances Berriman
On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What cross posting? Are you trying to say it's inappropropriate to bring up a prior discussion when it is relevant to the current discussion? I didn't really mean what you said. The prior part you quoted regarding splitting the mailing lis

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Mike Schinkel
Frances Berriman wrote: >> On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Andy Mabbett wrote: >> > >> > >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> > >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have >> > >> told me in e-mail tha

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread David Janes
Now called "item-brainstorming" (non-plural). We need more content in "item-examples" first though please [1], if anyone wants add even a little content. Regards, etc... David [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/item-examples On 11/17/06, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sam Sethi wrote: > I

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread James Jory
Sam Sethi wrote: > I own a wine importing company and have like you thought > about a wine microformat for sometime. I have done a little > bit of work on this. Maybe we could combine out thoughts and > submit a new microformat for review to this list? > > Producer: hcard > Location: geo > >

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread Frances Berriman
On 11/17/06, Mike Schinkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have >> told me in e-mail that they would be interested in the species >>

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-17 Thread S.D.Price
Ho do I post to this forum? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Schinkel Sent: 17 November 2006 05:49 To: 'Microformats Discuss' Subject: RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine Andy Mabbett wrote: >> c/f recent discussion

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Mike Schinkel
Andy Mabbett wrote: >> c/f recent discussion about uF mailing lists, and my comment: >> For example, several academic and professional taxonomists have >> told me in e-mail that they would be interested in the species >> proposal, (and one astronomer, likewise, for mars/ lu

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Brian Suda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >do you have a site where there are some wine examples Try a search using the "wine finder" at: -- Andy Mabbett Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards:

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >At this point I'd like to begin proposing and documenting how wine >information and microformats can be used together. It would be possible to mark up grape varieties, yeast and, indeed, Botritis, using the 'Species' microform

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sho Kuwamoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >One caveat is that the microformats list may not a great place to find >a ton of people to discuss the pros and cons of how to structure this >information. The kinds of discussions you want to have are really >specific to the

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Sho Kuwamoto
y, November 16, 2006 1:33 AM > To: Microformats Discuss > Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everything you both mentioned > covered by the much more generic proposal for hListing [1]? > > If we were to go down the route o

Re: Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Brian Suda
On 11/16/06, Frances Berriman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... Best way to get started is to find some existing examples in the wild - not microformatted. +1, do you have a site where there are some wine examples. We need to pull this out of a "theoretical" idea to an actual page. Then we can att

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Steve Marshall
On 11/16/06, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you misunderstood at least where I'm coming from. I jumped in on this thread since it was discussing wine but I was not intending to propose a wine microformat (as the original subject indicates). Anyway, what I was asking about was the b

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Frances Berriman
On 11/16/06, James Jory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think you misunderstood at least where I'm coming from. I jumped in on this thread since it was discussing wine but I was not intending to propose a wine microformat (as the original subject indicates). Anyway, what I was asking about was the b

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread James Jory
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everything you both > mentioned covered by the much more generic proposal for hListing [1]? I think you misunderstood at least where I'm coming from. I jumped in on this thread since it was discussing wine but I was not intending to propose a wine microformat

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread James Jory
> There was a discussion on this exact topic a few days ago: > http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006 > -November/007125.html > > Have a read through that, there are a few suggestions. I > would first attempt to mark-up as much as possible with > existing microformats. >

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Brian Suda
There was a discussion on this exact topic a few days ago: http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2006-November/007125.html Have a read through that, there are a few suggestions. I would first attempt to mark-up as much as possible with existing microformats. hListing was menti

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-16 Thread Steve Marshall
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everything you both mentioned covered by the much more generic proposal for hListing [1]? If we were to go down the route of a wine µF, the next step would be beer, but then the real-ale types would want a real-ale one, and the lager people would want a lager on

RE: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-15 Thread Sam Sethi
Hi James I own a wine importing company and have like you thought about a wine microformat for sometime. I have done a little bit of work on this. Maybe we could combine out thoughts and submit a new microformat for review to this list? Producer: hcard Location: geo Description: Grape Ye

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-14 Thread Brian Suda
On 11/14/06, Larry Halff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi... Long time subscriber, first time writer. --- welcome aboard, great to have more and more people contributing to the discussion. Among other things, I collect wine; probably far too much for my own good. ... For instance, I'd love to

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-14 Thread Adam Darowski
There seems to be a greater theme here. Not just wine. Any community could develop a Microformat for themselves. You know what community I thought could use a Microformat? Sports statistical data. Some sort of hCard on steroids (oh geez, pardon THAT pun) that also hCalendar events for time spent

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-13 Thread Larry Halff
Hi Pat, The only resource I could find on a standard representation of wine data is for a desktop application called The Wine Cellar Book (http:// www.thewinecellarbook.com/html/en/downloads.html), and example of which can be seen here: http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~lapalme/ForestInsteadOfT

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: wine

2006-11-13 Thread Pat Ramsey
Larry, Is there a current recognized standard of categorizing wine? Something along the lines of vCard corresponding with hCard? I know there are several different scales, it seems there would need to be some way of relating one scale with another in order to be able to extract information in a u