Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus — microformats parser

2007-09-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On 9/20/07, Philip Tellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, what you do is, you blast all possible 8 bit sequences through usenet, and the ones that come out alive... that's your list. Is this mailing list available on Usenet? -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar duration problem.

2007-09-25 Thread Ciaran McNulty
tried. Is it my mark-up at fault, or is there some other problem? Opening the Operator-exported .ICS in a text editor shows that the DURATION field is missing, which suggests it's an Operator issue. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] ‘XHTML’ references to ‘HTML’

2007-11-26 Thread Ciaran McNulty
, but I'd really worry that it would be unclear that we mean 'HTML and XHTML'. Is (X)HTML too unwieldy to be the global replacement? -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman

Re: [uf-discuss] Hcalendar in bbc.co.uk/programmes

2007-12-14 Thread Ciaran McNulty
*will* refer to 16:03 on a specific day (I'm finding it hard to think of a non-contrived example where it wouldn't) - it's just abbreviated to 16:03. A human would gather that information from context but it's more explicit in the machine-readable version. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] XFN syntax question

2007-12-14 Thread Ciaran McNulty
; as a seperator in the XFN specs. I just wanted to check I wasn't missing anything. XFN just mentions using multiple rel values for complex relationships, and rel values are space-separated so I don't think that is valid XFN. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] Hcalendar in bbc.co.uk/programmes

2007-12-15 Thread Ciaran McNulty
and we should continue to explore alternatives, I've not seen on that makes more sense than [EMAIL PROTECTED] yet as I am somewhat against the idea of hiding it in title attributes on arbitrary elements. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: Precise Expansion Patterns (was: Re: [uf-discuss] Hcalendar in bbc.co.uk/programmes)

2007-12-15 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Dec 15, 2007 1:40 AM, Scott Reynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me 3:23 is already machine-readable Does 3:23 mean 3 mins 23 seconds, or 3 hours 23 mins, or 23 minutes past three o'clock? ;-) -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] uf on mobile devices

2008-01-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
in the ability being added to the latter. Lack of cut+paste is indeed an annoyance with the N95. The good news is that it can handle most vCards or iCals correctly, if delieverd over HTTP. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] RFC on hCardMapper script

2008-02-27 Thread Ciaran McNulty
for the dialogues and the mofo parser on the serverside to fetch remote hCards. Very impressive, Gordon! One small comment: It doesn't appear to pick up my 'website' in the case where there are multiple URL in one hCard. I believe your best strategy would be to pick the first HTTP url. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hAtom question

2008-03-10 Thread Ciaran McNulty
. The requirement for address has been under a lot of scrutiny, because of its inability to contain block elements. hReview has more lenient defaulting rules, and I think there was some mention in another thread of hAtom 0.2 fixing this. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: rel=tag problem

2008-03-17 Thread Ciaran McNulty
in the semantics of tagging - different tagspaces will associate different meanings with different tags, compound or otherwise. Aggregation where URLs are discarded is always going to be a lossy process at best and that applies to character encoding too. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Who cares? Re: Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett

2008-03-18 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many people do you think actually have wiki accounts? As far as I know they're free to create, aren't they? -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list

Re: [uf-discuss] Operator 0.9.1

2008-03-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
change? After reading this I tested in 0.9.0 and both types were detected, and then updated to 0.9.1 and found... both were still detected! Have you tried the above in a 'plain' HTML page to eliminate anything else as a source of the problem? -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] How to avoid building erroneous social network graphs?

2008-03-27 Thread Ciaran McNulty
. A page that is linked to with @rel=me, and then allows outbound XFN values authored by people who are not the representative, is broken. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org

Re: [uf-discuss] How to avoid building erroneous social network graphs?

2008-03-27 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27 Mar 2008, at 07:34, Ciaran McNulty wrote: The simplest way to stop it is to add @rel=nofollow to any comment links - this has the effect of negating any XFN values in the links, as well as preventing

Re: [uf-discuss] Standardized Representation of Microformats in JSON / was: (no subject) hCardMapper v0.96

2008-04-02 Thread Ciaran McNulty
is more useful than changing them for very little gain. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Standardized Representation of Microformats in JSON / was: (no subject) hCardMapper v0.96

2008-04-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
that 'n' values are mandatory in jCard to make things easier for parsers, and that converters be responsible for applying the defaulting rules. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http

[uf-discuss] Standardized Representation of Microformats in PHP/other languages

2008-04-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
opinion about this? I realise that at the moment it's a side issue. Is there an obvious representation in any other programming languages? -Ciaran McNulty [1] http://uk2.php.net/json ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Standardized Representation of Microformats in PHP/other languages

2008-04-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
thought PEAR would have one but they don't seem to. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Standardized Representation of Microformats in PHP/other languages

2008-04-03 Thread Ciaran McNulty
a side issue (but there are already existant hCard-PHP services, for instance). Basically iff we're going to be talking about JSON representations maybe it's good if other languages can benefit from it. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing

Re: [uf-discuss] entry-title on img

2008-04-07 Thread Ciaran McNulty
-title should only be on an image when that image contains the text of the title (bad practice admittedly). So in this case the @alt should contain the text in the image. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Parsing XFN in PHP

2008-04-08 Thread Ciaran McNulty
query, and it saves you spidering the site yourself and worrying about all the complexity that would involve. Alternatively, if you want to parse uFs in PHP, I believe hKit by Drew McLellan [2] may have some @rel=me support? -Ciaran McNulty [1] http://code.google.com/apis/socialgraph/ [2] http

Re: [uf-discuss] Parsing XFN in PHP

2008-04-10 Thread Ciaran McNulty
. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus 0.5.1

2008-04-10 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Ciaran McNulty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem I can see is that it doesn't handle invalid HTML that well (an example would be http://ciaranmcnulty.livejournal.com/). In fact it does just look like you need to turn down error reporting to do

Re: [uf-discuss] Optimus 0.5.1

2008-04-10 Thread Ciaran McNulty
://ciaranmcnulty.livejournal.com/). -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] Parsing XFN in PHP

2008-04-10 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Mark Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XFN itself is fairly easy to deal with by just throwing pages through tidy and using DOM/SAX/xPath, surely ? I made a rudimentary parser to do this some time ago. The code is a little ugly to publish, but I don't mind

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-16 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Toby Inkster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry, but this sounds like a really bad idea. Parsers would need to maintain translation tables for day and month names, plus abbreviations for them, I agree that it sounds a bit over the top for hCalendar but it's not

Re: [uf-discuss] One more shot at accessible hCalendar

2008-05-21 Thread Ciaran McNulty
way to do the job, but it's not perfect. As another aside, HTML5 has the proposed TIME element for exactly this. time datetime=2008-05-23 17:00:00Friday 5pm/time -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org

Re: [uf-discuss] class=tag

2008-06-30 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Duncan Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those of us who favour opaque URLs (actually for practical reasons such as clean separation of concerns, maintainability, etc.) are unhappy with being forced into a semantic URL schema when using rel-tag. Can you go into a

Re: [uf-discuss] Human and machine readable data format

2008-07-14 Thread Ciaran McNulty
for machine data, as long as it's right next to the human-readable date in the HTML (so that it's less likely to be overlooked when editing). However, -1 from me for using @class in that way - I think it breaks the semantics completely. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Human and machine readable data format

2008-07-15 Thread Ciaran McNulty
Another example of non-Gregorian calendaring is Saudi Arabia, where the arabic calendar is in common usage: http://www.sama.gov.sa/ (actually clicking the 'english' tab on that page shows the gregorian dates) -Ciaran McNulty On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Karl Dubost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

2008-08-15 Thread Ciaran McNulty
under N c) Nulty separately with McNulty and MacNulty listed together in a separate Mc section after the M section. That said I think sorting is a bit out of scope for hCard and would consider O'-, Fitz-, Mc- and Mac- prefixes to be parts of surnames, nowadays. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Problems with rel-license?

2008-08-22 Thread Ciaran McNulty
and not worry too much about it. The idea of internationalising uF fields is too horrific to contemplate, after all! See also text-align: center; -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http

[uf-discuss] Employment end dates in hResume - outstanding issue

2008-08-29 Thread Ciaran McNulty
people think of my example markup. Thanks, -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard: Quick question about nicknames

2008-08-29 Thread Ciaran McNulty
it. -Ciaran McNulty ___ microformats-discuss mailing list microformats-discuss@microformats.org http://microformats.org/mailman/listinfo/microformats-discuss

Re: [uf-discuss] ISO Dates and Durations

2008-09-24 Thread Ciaran McNulty
it, to be honest. If we're going to have hidden data (and frankly from what I can tell from discussions so far about this, we're heading that way) it's better that its 'near' the visible version in the HTML rather than being hidden in the HEAD. -Ciaran McNulty

Re: [uf-discuss] Using YQL with Microformats

2009-02-16 Thread Ciaran McNulty
George Looks good! You might want to handle URLs with the http:// omitted. -Ciaran McNulty On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:47 AM, George Ornbo gor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I'd like to share an example I knocked up showing how YQL can be used to populate forms using just a URL. YQL returns

Re: [uf-discuss] Rel-Canonical

2009-02-18 Thread Ciaran McNulty
? Is it in a public setting, or is it all behind-doors talks? -Ciaran McNulty [1] http://tinyurl.com/daj7j8 On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Toby A Inkster m...@tobyinkster.co.uk wrote: Brian Suda wrote: Google has started to use rel-canonical to specific the best URL for page information

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: An Inconvenient hCard

2009-05-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
on the value-class-pattern [1] One of the examples is given as follows: p class='tel' lang='en-gb' span class='type' span class='value-title' title='cell' /span mobile /span span class='value'+44 7773 000 000/span /p This would seem to have obvious uses for i18n. -Ciaran

Re: [uf-discuss] re: HTML5 support

2010-07-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Angelo Gladding ang...@gladding.name wrote: Can an enlightened soul describe in which ways microdata is actually superior to profiled poshformats? To me it's not a question of Microdata vs POSH, it's more like Microdata vs class attributes where both are methods

Re: [uf-discuss] re: HTML5 support

2010-07-20 Thread Ciaran McNulty
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: Well, it's not in W3C's version of HTML5, they published it as a separate spec (which is strange, IMO). Regardless of what spec it is in, it still works just the same, so that's OK. Oh, really? Sorry, I'm out of date

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