Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-09 Thread Gayl Kennedy
Hi Keith There are different ways used in MFIs but the one I was associated with worked as follows: For a client in a group they look for 10% collateral to be held in the clients saving account for the duration of the loan term. For a client not in a group they look for 40-50% collateral to be hel

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-09 Thread Keith Woodlock
Gayl, Nayan, Thanks for your points. I have summarised details so far as follows: MFIs/NGOs exist to provide financial services for clients - client may want to use these services due to: - they are very poor and have no collateral and can't getting banking services from other sources

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-09 Thread Gayl Kennedy
Hi Keith at the MFI in Nigeria we had some centres which were small, 4-8 people which we treated as one group but others were much larger with 20-30 people and they were divided into groups of about 5 people which guaranteed each others repayments. In mifos for the small centres we still set them u

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-09 Thread Nayan Ambali
Hi Keith, >For larger MFIs, would it be fair to assume that they would have >branches that not only target rurual areas but also urban areas where >the notion of a 'center' would not be used (i.e. the groups or >individual clients come into the branch directly)? Yes(at least in India). they targe

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-09 Thread Keith Woodlock
Vivian, Ryan, Thanks for your replies. They were interesting. I have started to capture these details at http://mifosforge.jira.com/wiki/display/MIFOS/Microfinance+Customer+and+Domain+Knowledge+Center Some follow up questions concentrating on Center for now: > Q1: What is a center? > Centers ar

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-08 Thread Ryan Whitney
Agreed with all of this, and this generally meets the standard Grameen II Model. But I will add that we will always find exceptions. For example, I know of one MFI that has the concept of Centers and clients, no groups. Really, its just a big group (30-40 members), but they call them Centers and

Re: [Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-08 Thread Vivian Lu
Hi Keith, I’ll answer based on what I’ve experienced, although that’s limited to two MFI’s in Bolivia and Nuru MF operations in Kenya. I’m sure others will have different definitions – Q1: Centers are physical locations where MF clients meet to conduct activities associated with the loan cyc

[Mifos-users] Some domain questions around centers and groups.

2011-02-08 Thread Keith Woodlock
Hi all, For us technology people currently working on mifos its important that we have a good grasp of the domain. This helps us to develop a better product, one that is more flexible and responsive to change in the microfinance industry. We will try to document what we learn here http://mifosforg