Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 05:17:55PM -0700, Bill Prince wrote: > Well, the old AP is on ether2, and all the old SMs are there too and > on the /26 subnet. > > The new AP is on ether7, and the new SMs will not talk to the old AP. > So they will have to go somewhere, and I don't have enough spare IP >

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Rory McCann
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 17:03 -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: > DNS was changed in 4.x I think. That's one that's been most obnoxious for > me. Yes, it was 4.x where this changed. I agree, it was pointless to change it for no real benefit. -- **

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
Well, the old AP is on ether2, and all the old SMs are there too and on the /26 subnet. The new AP is on ether7, and the new SMs will not talk to the old AP. So they will have to go somewhere, and I don't have enough spare IP addresses to just plunk down a new subnet on the new AP. We're in

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Reed
You can not have 2 ports on the same device in the same subnet. It won't know which to use. But, with what you are saying, why can't you just split the /26 into 2 /27s and be done? Here is maybe the thing that is getting you. If you split the /26 into 2 /27s and put them on separate interfaces

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
My thinking was that all the lower addresses (1-30) will be in the /26, and all the upper addresses (33-62) will be in the /27. Once they're moved, then I can go back and switch all the lowers to a /27. This will all be on the same router (RB493). The /26 is on ether 2, and the /27 will be o

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Simon Westlake
Has anyone else seen the RB493 problem? Mine become completely unresponsive and require a site trip to power cycle (they run the network card for the UPS which makes it extra painful) Dropped everything back to 4.17 and been solid -- Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com (920) 351-1010 Powerco

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Simon Westlake
Would anything from 32-63 overlap with the old subnet? If not, it should work, as the more specific route will take precedence (assuming you are running some kind of routing protocol or will have routes between the two routers statically) Hard to answer for sure without more information but it

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Reed
Routing will be a problem. How are you going to tell a router customer .1 is here, .5 is there, etc.? There are thousands of /26 networks available that are non-routing. What about creating a new /26 out of 10.x.x.x and NAT it until you get everyone moved? On 9/9/2011 5:34 PM, Bill Prince wrot

Re: [Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Andrew Thrift
I have found this on RB493 as well as RB435G It appears to happen during the load of the configuration on the new version. What I have found works, is to export the config to a .rsc, edit it and change the first line to "delay 30" then for the upgrade do: /system reset-configuration run-aft

[Mikrotik] splitting subnets

2011-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
We put up a new AP on a POP where we already have 6 operating APs. The plan is to split off about 25 existing subscribers on one of the old APs and put them on this new AP. So we have all the subs (about 50) in one /26 (x.y.x.0/26). The ones we're going to move I need to put on a separat

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
On 09/09/2011 02:05 PM, Scott Lambert wrote: Lots of us have. I think concensus is that it occurs more often when ether1 is in use. I've been looking for references to this so I know when it's "safe" to resume upgrades. Is there a thread on the MT forum? Does anyone have a ticket open with

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Reed
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Lambert
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 01:12:11PM -0700, Kristian Hoffmann wrote: > On 09/09/2011 10:47 AM, Dave Crim wrote: > >This probably doesn't apply to you, but we had nothing but problems > >running 5.x on 493G's. The Ethernet ports would flap up and down at > >random intervals, causing it to stop passin

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
d NAT rules are pretty basic. Only one or two simple queues >>>>>> in a few circumstances and Butch's QoS script (the old one that >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> support per-interface configuration). >>>>>> >>>

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Rory McCann
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Reed
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
On 09/09/2011 10:47 AM, Dave Crim wrote: This probably doesn't apply to you, but we had nothing but problems running 5.x on 493G's. The Ethernet ports would flap up and down at random intervals, causing it to stop passing traffic momentarily. Mikrotik Support suggested we upgrade to 5.6, which I

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Rory McCann
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Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Scott Reed
I went from 3.30 to 5.4 with no issues. Be aware, the upgrade works, but you can not just import 3.x or 4.x .rsc files into 5.x. They changed some of the words again. Some of it is to support 802.11n. On 9/9/2011 12:09 PM, Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 10:46 -0500, Rory McCann wr

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Dave Crim
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Re: [Mikrotik] Hotspot security

2011-09-09 Thread Damian Wallace
Keeping people from stealing service, that's pretty actually easy these days for hotspot. Anything from Chillispot to Bluesocket will do that, with a moderate amount of effort. It just a balance of customer ease vs. effort tot to steal. Providing security to the end user is difficult, and l

Re: [Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Fri, 2011-09-09 at 10:46 -0500, Rory McCann wrote: > Most of my routers are running 4.10 or 4.11. I'm planning on upgrading > them to 5.6 and am wondering if there are any major changes I should be > aware of that may break functionality. I have one RB1000 and the rest > are RB750 or RB750G.

[Mikrotik] Upgrading to 5.6

2011-09-09 Thread Rory McCann
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