Re: [Mimedefang] Strange issue with mimedefang/spamassassin reports.

2009-08-06 Thread David F. Skoll
Champ Clark III [Softwink] wrote: To re-explain; the majority of spam get's sent to s...@localhost. Every now and then, rather than the spam going to s...@localhost, it'll show up in users mailboxes with full report that the message is indeed spam. Without seeing your MIMEDefang filter

Re: [Mimedefang] Strange issue with mimedefang/spamassassin reports.

2009-08-06 Thread Champ Clark III [Softwink]
On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 01:41:01PM -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: Champ Clark III [Softwink] wrote: To re-explain; the majority of spam get's sent to s...@localhost. Every now and then, rather than the spam going to s...@localhost, it'll show up in users mailboxes with full report

Re: [Mimedefang] Strange issue with mimedefang/spamassassin reports.

2009-08-06 Thread David F. Skoll
Champ Clark III [Softwink] wrote: http://vistech.net/~champ/mimedefang-filter Your filter looks fine. http://vistech.net/~champ/sendmail.cf I notice you have two other milters: Xgreylist Xscam-back Depending on what those milters decide, they could prevent further processing by

[Mimedefang] Obscuring email addresses on the web

2009-08-06 Thread WBrown
A colleague quoted in an email email spam from web crawlers is a problem for you and your IT department, obfuscating email addresses on your website turns your problem into a problem for your users. Has anyone seen this or something similar? The original question posed to him was about making

[Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread David F. Skoll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Roaring Penguin software no longer accepts mail from gmail.com addresses; our reasoning is here: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/whynogmail I see 46 gmail.com users subscribed to MIMEDefang. Sorry for the inconvenience, but if you want to post

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail fromgmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Bold move. Have you corresponded at all with the Mail Team for Google mail-supp...@google.com? regards, KAM - Original Message - From: David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com To: MIMEDefang List mimedefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:05 PM Subject:

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail fromgmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread David F. Skoll
Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Bold move. Have you corresponded at all with the Mail Team for Google mail-supp...@google.com? Not that address specifically, but I have had correspondence with a gmail.com employee whose attitude was essentially if you don't like it, block it. Regards, David.

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:05 PM -0400 David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: our reasoning is here: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/whynogmail I don't question blocking gmail, but do you really want to recommend using Yahoo and Hotmail? Or have they cleaned up their act since

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread David F. Skoll
Kenneth Porter wrote: I don't question blocking gmail, but do you really want to recommend using Yahoo and Hotmail? No, not really. :-( They're all pretty awful, but at least Yahoo and Hotmail reveal the originating IP address (the former in a Received: header and the latter in an

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, August 06, 2009 5:05 PM -0400 David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: our reasoning is here: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/whynogmail I'm composing the suggestion now. At the bottom of the linked page is a spot for a custom suggestion. I'm selecting Sending and

Re: [Mimedefang] Strange issue with mimedefang/spamassassin reports.

2009-08-06 Thread -
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote: Champ Clark III [Softwink] wrote:     http://vistech.net/~champ/mimedefang-filter Your filter looks fine. I see two issues: 1) You're calling spam_assassin_check() twice. Once is enough. 2) You may want to indent so

Re: [Mimedefang] Obscuring email addresses on the web

2009-08-06 Thread -
--- On Thu, 8/6/09, wbr...@e1b.org wbr...@e1b.org wrote: A colleague quoted in an email email spam from web crawlers is a problem for you and your IT department, obfuscating email addresses on your website turns your problem into a problem for your users. Has anyone seen this or something

Re: [Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread -
Gmail doesn't even generate acceptable RFC 5321 Received headers - the from clause is missing. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other legal boilerplate in the above message, it is NULL AND VOID. You may ignore it. Visit http://www.mimedefang.org

[Mimedefang] ADMIN: Roaring Penguin no longer accepts mail from gmail.com

2009-08-06 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi David, +1 from my side. I had very long discussions about just the same issue two years ago with google, and all they said is, that they have different blocks of google IP-adresses where they route the outgooing good, and the outgoing bad mails. And of course they hide the originating IP.

Re: [Mimedefang] Obscuring email addresses on the web

2009-08-06 Thread Ben Kamen
- wrote: --- On Thu, 8/6/09, wbr...@e1b.org wbr...@e1b.org wrote: A colleague quoted in an email email spam from web crawlers is a problem for you and your IT department, obfuscating email addresses on your website turns your problem into a problem for your users. Has anyone seen this or

Re: [Mimedefang] Obscuring email addresses on the web

2009-08-06 Thread Kelson
wbr...@e1b.org wrote: A colleague quoted in an email email spam from web crawlers is a problem for you and your IT department, obfuscating email addresses on your website turns your problem into a problem for your users. ... I was told he found this twaddle on the web. Anyone know where this

Re: [Mimedefang] Obscuring email addresses on the web

2009-08-06 Thread Ben Kamen
Kelson wrote: wbr...@e1b.org wrote: A colleague quoted in an email email spam from web crawlers is a problem for you and your IT department, obfuscating email addresses on your website turns your problem into a problem for your users. ... I was told he found this twaddle on the web. Anyone