On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 12:22 -0700, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- On Mon, 5/21/12, Bernd Petrovitsch be...@petrovitsch.priv.at wrote:
On Don, 2012-05-17 at 16:02 -0700, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
...
Beliefs like yours are the problem. Policies like mine cause the
solution.
Perhaps it
Exchange uses SMTP but generates a syntactically incorrect header. Similarly
with Google's gmail (it often omits the from clause when required),
Yahoo's use of an unregistered protocol (with NNFMP*), qmail, and of late,
exim.
Do you also then block mail from Gmail, Yahoo, qmail and exim if
--- On Tue, 5/22/12, George Roberts grobe...@purity.net wrote:
Exchange uses SMTP but generates
a syntactically incorrect header. Similarly
with Google's gmail (it often omits the from clause when required),
Yahoo's use of an unregistered protocol (with NNFMP*), qmail, and of late,
exim.
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Over 90% of the messages so rejected are clearly spam (i.e. sent to a
spamtrap mailbox) or have other problems.
That doesn't seem like a particularly strong metric to me. What's
your overall spam/non-spam ratio?
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Les Mikesell
--- On Tue, 5/22/12, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Over 90% of the messages so rejected are clearly spam
(i.e. sent to a spamtrap mailbox) or have other problems.
That doesn't seem like a particularly strong metric to
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 3:31 PM, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Over 90% of the messages so rejected are clearly spam
(i.e. sent to a spamtrap mailbox) or have other problems.
That doesn't seem like a particularly strong metric to
me. What's your overall spam/non-spam ratio?
In 2012, 50% to
All,
I think this thread has played itself out. We can just accept the fact
that kd6...@yahoo.com is to pedantry as RMS is to Free Software and move
along. :)
Regards,
David.
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Perhaps it is time to encourage the list subscribers to publicise how
many addresses they are filtering for, and what volume of traffic they
see. That way, when someone makes a contentious statement, we know it
only affects them and their dog.
For example, when someone says I've been blocking
--- On Tue, 5/22/12, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
... Unless you like to reject just because you can. Per rfc760 and a
concept assumed through the rfcs:: In general, an implementation
should be conservative in its sending behavior, and liberal in its
receiving behavior.
Put that
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT)
kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Put that in contrast where RFC 5321 says MUST with regard to using
the syntax listed therein for generating trace headers, your
statement and policy loses every time. A must use directive has no
discretion. I reject not
--- On Tue, 5/22/12, David F. Skoll d...@roaringpenguin.com wrote:
On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Put that in contrast where RFC 5321 says MUST with regard to using
the syntax listed therein for generating trace headers, your
statement and policy loses
On Tue, 22 May 2012 17:41:05 -0700 (PDT)
kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
You completely missed what I said earlier. That part applies to
NON-SMTP headers and says that we cannot and must not reject headers
from other transports on the grounds that they don't meet SMTP's
syntax. It doesn't apply to
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:41 PM, kd6...@yahoo.com wrote:
Exchange and gmail claim SMTP transport but fail to follow the required
syntax.
Exchange isn't natively SMTP, so that mail doesn't originate in an
SMTP environment. And if you want to claim to know more about
internet mail that
And if you want to claim to know more about internet mail that google
well, good luck with that.
Woohoo! I proved Google wasn't following an email RFC once. Do I get a
gold star?
Regards,
KAM
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I filter mail for a little under 20,000 domains. The user numbers vary all the
time, but this month's stats show about 70,000 users. We handle about 1.5
million messages a day.
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Regards,
George
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