Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Smoogen
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 14:39:47 -0500 (EST), David F. Skoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > > > Can you give me some tips on where you are seeing this. I think if all > > goes well I will be the Fedora packager for mimedefang... and want to > > get it into

Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Stephen J. Smoogen wrote: > Can you give me some tips on where you are seeing this. I think if all > goes well I will be the Fedora packager for mimedefang... and want to > get it into place in a happy way. Well, it only affects CanIt. Under Fedora's SELinux settings, Apache

Re: OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-03-01 Thread Stephen J. Smoogen
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 14:44:40 -0500 (EST), David F. Skoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Nels Lindquist wrote: > > > > Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to > > > Debian anyway. (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to > > > replace it wi

OT: Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005, Nels Lindquist wrote: > > Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to > > Debian anyway. (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to > > replace it with Sendmail.) > Are you fed up with RedHat due to their packaging choices, or their > pricin

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-28 Thread Nels Lindquist
On 23 Feb 2005 at 7:24, David F. Skoll wrote: > Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to > Debian anyway. (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to > replace it with Sendmail.) Are you fed up with RedHat due to their packaging choices, or their pricing/licen

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread John
At 11:09 AM 2/23/2005, you wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Arthur Corliss wrote: > If you want something done right (or done so wrong that it looks right > to you) do it yourself. ;-) Roll your own distribution. Try Gentoo. I have migrated everything to it. I have it running on Dell PowerEdge's &

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Arthur Corliss wrote: > If you want something done right (or done so wrong that it looks right > to you) do it yourself. ;-) Roll your own distribution. Thats almost what I do - however, I use Debian to bootstrap it. Get a minimal system going, then manually install stuff l

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Arthur Corliss
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Michael Sims wrote: > Already did that, about 2-3 months ago. All my servers are running Debian > Sarge, > except for one that is still on RHEL due to a support contract for our SAN > connectivity. Debian is a refreshing change from Red Hat, IMHO. I've found > it to > be

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread dr john halewood
On Wednesday 23 Feb 2005 12:24, David F. Skoll wrote: >> Does Exim have anything like Milter that MD could be run from? > >Nope. There is exiscan (http://www.timj.co.uk/linux/exim.php), which is a similar idea to MD but much less flexible - it works entirely at the smtp level, so there's no conc

Re: Off-Topic - Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Kamen
I'm laffin so hard. I need to go take break. Poo on you! - -Ben ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDefang@lists.roaringpenguin.com http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/mailman/listinfo/mimedefang

Off-Topic - Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
> And that's the key point to remember, it's a religeous argument. You can't win > those no matter how much logic and fact you might present to argue your position. I would like to say that I have successfully converted/convinced more than a few people of the values of Sendmail and Perl through sh

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Chris Gauch
> Well, historically, Sendmail had a bad security record. It has improved > tremendously in the last 5 years or so. A large part of Sendmail's bad security record has to do with the fact that the Internet was a bit less "hostile" years ago and spam was only known as food product. Sendmail was in

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, -ray wrote: > What I got from the thread was the default will be Exim, so the newbies > aren't so confused by Sendmail. One of the messages on the thread said that Sendmail should be relegated to "extras". That really concerns me. Making Exim the default, but still fully su

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread James Ebright
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 09:08:05 -0600, Michael Sims wrote > I usually end up staying out of those discussions because I'm not > big on religious wars but I always feel like I'm just about the only > one out there that prefers Sendmail to these other MTAs... I too try and stay out of those convers

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread -ray
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, David F. Skoll wrote: Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to Debian anyway. (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to replace it with Sendmail.) What I got fr

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Ben Kamen
Michael Sims wrote: I have to admit that I just don't understand all of the anti-Sendmail sentiment I see all over various mailing lists and forums such as Slashdot. Everytime the subject comes up there are tons of people saying "the absolute worst thing you can do is run Sendmail" or "there's n

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Michael Sims wrote: > I have to admit that I just don't understand all of the > anti-Sendmail sentiment I see all over various mailing lists and > forums such as Slashdot. Well, historically, Sendmail had a bad security record. It has improved tremendously in the last 5 year

RE: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Sims
David F. Skoll wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Kenneth Porter wrote: > >> > > Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to > Debian anyway. Already did that, about 2-3 months ago. All my server

Re: [Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Kenneth Porter wrote: > Huh. I've already become so fed up with Red Hat that I'm switching to Debian anyway. (Exim is the default on Debian, but it's easy to replace it with Sendmail.) > Does E

[Mimedefang] Fedora to replace sendmail with Exim as default MTA?

2005-02-23 Thread Kenneth Porter
FYI, discussion here: Does Exim have anything like Milter that MD could be run from? ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.canit.ca MIMEDefang mailing list MIMEDe