Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-25 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Ben Kamen wrote: And the problems outlook has with IMAP people attribute to IMAP... I don't want to defend Outlook, neither Courier, but: http://www.courier-mta.org/fud/ esp. the Epilogue. Actually, I use IMAP myself, but

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP (was: Questions about stream_by_recipient and problems it creates.)

2007-01-24 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Tue, Jan 23, 2007 at 04:05:21PM -0800, Kenneth Porter wrote: --On Tuesday, January 23, 2007 1:36 PM -0900 Matthew Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This doesn't work because most of the people using the mail system use POP3. I would love for people to ditch pop3, but due to poor

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP (was: Questions about stream_by_recipient and problems it creates.)

2007-01-24 Thread leloup
Am Mittwoch Januar 24 2007 11:04 schrieb Jan-Pieter Cornet: Users actually need to _do_ something to switch to imap, right, give new config in their clients :-) and rethink the way they store and view email. And last I heard Eudora and Outlook Express still didn't support imap anyway...

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP (was: Questions about stream_by_recipient and problems it creates.)

2007-01-24 Thread Rob MacGregor
On 1/24/07, Jan-Pieter Cornet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Users actually need to _do_ something to switch to imap, and rethink the way they store and view email. And last I heard Eudora and Outlook Express still didn't support imap anyway... Outlook Express has had IMAP support since at least

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Users actually need to _do_ something to switch to imap, and rethink the way they store and view email. And last I heard Eudora and Outlook Express still didn't support imap anyway... I've use Outlook Express on a daily basis for many years (8+ I'm thinking) using only IMAP protocol. It's got

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Matthew Schumacher
Rob MacGregor wrote: On 1/24/07, Jan-Pieter Cornet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Users actually need to _do_ something to switch to imap, and rethink the way they store and view email. And last I heard Eudora and Outlook Express still didn't support imap anyway... Outlook Express has had IMAP

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Ben Kamen
Matthew Schumacher wrote: Outlook Express has had IMAP support since at least v4. Yea, and it's terrible. I concurr. And the problems outlook has with IMAP people attribute to IMAP... When I was on the IMAP mailing list.. several people brought up those kinds of issues with some amount of

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Joseph Brennan
Ben Kamen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MS's lack of adherence to the protocol. To bring this closer to Mimedefang, let's look at MS's adherence to the smtp protocol. Outlook, under some circumstance, understands a 550 permanent error to mean try again forever. At the present time we have a

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Jan-Pieter Cornet
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 07:27:31AM -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: Users actually need to _do_ something to switch to imap, and rethink Not only that, if a large ISP switches from POP3 to IMAP, they'll suddenly have to buy terabytes of storage... Hmm... so how did you know that I got the bill

Re: [Mimedefang] IMAP

2007-01-24 Thread Ben Kamen
Kenneth Porter wrote: Why support a free protocol with a quality implementation when you can *sell* them your proprietary alternative?! (Ie. Exchange.) The IMAP mail list has eluded to the same thing. ___ NOTE: If there is a disclaimer or other