Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-03 Thread Ben Kamen
On 2012-08-02 4:37 PM, John Nemeth wrote: http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2005-April/026563.html http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2005-September/028147.html http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2006-June/030475.html

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 14:56:49 -0500 Ben Kamen bka...@benjammin.net wrote: Ok and that's where I get lost in where SA starts and MD ends (blame the amount of time it's been since I was last deeply in this which is no where as deeply as you or most others on this list - I miss it. not sure why,

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 01.08.2012 21:56, schrieb Ben Kamen: On 2012-08-01 7:22 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:23:33 -0500 Ben Kamen bka...@benjammin.net wrote: But I don't see any place explicitly calling out ~dest_user/.spamassassin/userprefs in any form (still looking) You won't see that

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 8/2/2012 12:00 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Perhaps it could be taught, though. I guess you could add some Perl code to the mimedefang-filter script to - check the domain part of destination addresses whether it is delivered locally (eg. by looking it up in local-host-names) - if so, look up

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:13:45 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: Or just shell out and run sendmail -bv [email address] Which may not work 100%. MD runs as defang and sendmail -bv is not guaranteed to be accurate for non-root users: $ /usr/sbin/sendmail -bv d...@roaringpenguin.com

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 02.08.2012 19:13, schrieb Kevin A. McGrail: On 8/2/2012 12:00 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Perhaps it could be taught, though. I guess you could add some Perl code to the mimedefang-filter script to - check the domain part of destination addresses whether it is delivered locally (eg. by

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Joseph Brennan
it up in local-host-names) - if so, look up the local part in aliases and/or virtusertable to find if it is delivered to a local shell user - if found, look in that user's home directory for a .spamassassin/userprefs file - if it exists, use it. This whole discussion assumes that each

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
I suppose you could enforce the former by telling sendmail to temp fail RCPT commands after the first, to get messages in one recipient at a time. I suppose local policies could enforce the latter. That would eliminate the main difficulties. That's brilliant. I wonder if most MTAs will

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread David F. Skoll
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:56:24 -0400 Kevin A. McGrail kmcgr...@pccc.com wrote: I suppose you could enforce the former by telling sendmail to temp fail RCPT commands after the first, to get messages in one recipient at a time. That's brilliant. I wonder if most MTAs will properly handle

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-02 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
s/brilliant/brilliant, but evil and certainly inadvisable/ Agreed, though I actually meant brilliant with the steepled hands and the raised eyebrow and perhaps a maniacal laugh. I just liked the simplicity of it and agree completely that the recipient stream is the way to go. regards, KAM

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:23:33 -0500 Ben Kamen bka...@benjammin.net wrote: But what's weird is that I updated /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf with my settings and that seems to be the one in use even You probably need to do md-mx-ctrl reread to have MD notice the changes. But I don't see any

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-01 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 7/31/2012 10:35 PM, Ben Kamen wrote: Quick yes/no... when using SA though MD, does SA still check the user_prefs (for white/blacklisting) in the destination user's homedir/.spamassassin/ directory? I whitelisted *@domain.com and just got an email still marked as spam by SA. Annoying

Re: [Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-08-01 Thread Ben Kamen
On 2012-08-01 7:22 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 01:23:33 -0500 Ben Kamen bka...@benjammin.net wrote: But what's weird is that I updated /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf with my settings and that seems to be the one in use even You probably need to do md-mx-ctrl reread to have

[Mimedefang] sanity Check: MD - SpamAssassing checks ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs

2012-07-31 Thread Ben Kamen
Quick yes/no... when using SA though MD, does SA still check the user_prefs (for white/blacklisting) in the destination user's homedir/.spamassassin/ directory? I whitelisted *@domain.com and just got an email still marked as spam by SA. Thanks, -Ben -- Ben Kamen - O.D.T., S.P.