Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-25 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Wednesday, May 25, 2005 10:05 AM -0700 Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Where did DECnet pick up the term? From Monty Python's Spamalot/SpamSPAMspamSpam & Eggs. ...which brings us back to "spam" having its origins in negative commentary on "SPAM." Or at least n

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-25 Thread James Ebright
On Wed, 25 May 2005 09:29:39 -0700, Kelson wrote > Where did DECnet pick up the term? No idea, term was in use while I was involved in the late 80s, looking at the timeline posted to the list my guess would be from the response to their ARPANET message! (hehe, I never knew about that!) Jim -- E

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-25 Thread Kelson
Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Where did DECnet pick up the term? From Monty Python's Spamalot/SpamSPAMspamSpam & Eggs. ...which brings us back to "spam" having its origins in negative commentary on "SPAM." Or at least negative commentary on an *excess* of SPAM. -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communi

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-25 Thread Kelson
James Ebright wrote: Spam in the network sense from DECnet simply meant: "send data out to as many nodes as fast as you can" and I assumed this is where the reference to UCE as spam came from. Where did DECnet pick up the term? -- Kelson Vibber SpeedGate Communications ___

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-25 Thread James Ebright
Well, kindof, Spam in the network sense from DECnet simply meant: "send data out to as many nodes as fast as you can" and I assumed this is where the reference to UCE as spam came from. Now, considering the "ham" context, then yes, I can see how that reference would be made and I would construe t

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-24 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, May 24, 2005 1:24 PM -0500 Charles Mount <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have to remember that using the term spam to refer to unwanted email and ham to refer to wanted email is basically a put-down of the Hormel product SPAM. It is clear that the email term is a reference to the

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-24 Thread Charles Mount
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Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable

2005-05-24 Thread Kelson
Ian Mitchell wrote: Always curious how someone who owns a trademark feels when they're trademark is essentially hijacked by a community as a whole for use to describe the bain of all existance ;) Yeah. When you think about it, Kleenex, Xerox, and Styrofoam have had it *easy*. -- Kelson Vibb

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable

2005-05-24 Thread Ian Mitchell
.com/ci/ci_in.htm Always curious how someone who owns a trademark feels when they're trademark is essentially hijacked by a community as a whole for use to describe the bain of all existance ;) > Subject: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable >

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-24 Thread James Ebright
This refers to thier meat byproduct in a can and is in all caps (SPAM), when referring to UCE you should only cap the first letter or do it in all lower case. And yes, SPAM (c)Hormel way pre-dates even ARPANET and Hormel does defend their trademark fairly religiously (and they should). Jim On

Re: [Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-24 Thread Ben Kamen
Alexander Dalloz wrote: The wonderful world of software patents and trademarks http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76586902 Now time to avoid to offer "anti-spam" solutions / software :} Hormel could that treat hostile. I don't think it could apply to the industry we use it

[Mimedefang] spam now a registered trademark for downloadable software by Hormel

2005-05-23 Thread Alexander Dalloz
The wonderful world of software patents and trademarks http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=76586902 Now time to avoid to offer "anti-spam" solutions / software :} Hormel could that treat hostile. Alexander -- Alexander Dalloz | Enger, Germany | GPG http://pgp.mit.edu 0xB366