Re: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

Everything I've read about DSPAM mentions that it is harder to setup then sa. Note, DSPAM still needs to be trained...and including it in the SA framework allows it to be trained by SA. The best option imo is just to wait for it to be included as a plugin for SA 3.0. >> On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02

Re: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

but devin nate hasn't been working on the this plugin for 3.0. He filed it on SA 2.55 6 months ago. So still someone has to port it up to 3.0. Cahya Wirawan said: > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:28:41PM -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: >> > Would you want to build support for it into MD? >> If someone ha

Re: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 02:28:41PM -0500, David F. Skoll wrote: > > Would you want to build support for it into MD? > If someone has a working filter that integrates DSPAM, I'll happily > add support for it. I think SA 3.0 will have plugin for DSPAM or CRM114, look this bugzilla http://bugzilla.s

Re: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Paul wrote: > Would you want to build support for it into MD? If it's written in C, you're looking at fork/exec to invoke it. That might negate any performance benefit. If someone has a working filter that integrates DSPAM, I'll happily add support for it. Regards, David.

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi David, > >On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, David F. Skoll wrote: > >|you can add it into MIMEDefang. Just do your test in the Perl filter and >|add to the $hits returned by spam_assassin_check. This is a quick-n-dirty >|way to get it running; if it looks good,

Re: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

>No. :-) I don't use DSPAM, so I don't know anything about it. http://www.nuclearelephant.com/projects/dspam/ Looks like an enhanced Bayesian system. Written in C and requires a db, either berkely, mysql or oracle. Judging from it's docs the '--enable-delivery-to-stdout' should allow it to

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Could you give me a quick way to incorporate DSPAM in to MD > filter? No. :-) I don't use DSPAM, so I don't know anything about it. Regards, David. ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

Hi David, On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, David F. Skoll wrote: |you can add it into MIMEDefang. Just do your test in the Perl filter and |add to the $hits returned by spam_assassin_check. This is a quick-n-dirty |way to get it running; if it looks good, you can spend the effort to add |it into SA itself

Re: Grelisting without MySQL (was Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM)

On Wednesday 25 February 2004 05:16 am, Jonas Eckerman wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:02:42 -0600, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > > > I'm trying this, but it requires relaydb, for which I can't find a > > Linux version, and I can't seem to get the BSD version 1.7 to > > compile. > > If you're try

Re: Grelisting without MySQL (was Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM)

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:02:42 -0600, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > I'm trying this, but it requires relaydb, for which I can't find a > Linux version, and I can't seem to get the BSD version 1.7 to > compile. If you're trying my greylist implementation, you can just skip all the relaydb stuff. My

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

--On Tuesday, February 24, 2004 4:18 PM -0700 Lucas Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: They all generally use a better bayesian database then the default SA. By better I mean slightly lower FP and FN. Coincidentally:

Re: Greylisting without MySQL (was Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM)

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > I'm trying this, but it requires relaydb, for which I can't find a > Linux version, and I can't seem to get the BSD version 1.7 to > compile. DOH! The second implementation, at http://lists.roaringpenguin.com/pipermail/mimedefang/2004-February/0201

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

Kenneth Porter said: > Version 3.0.0 of SA (now in development) includes a plugin API for just > this sort of thing. > > Until now, you'd have to add an "eval" test to the SA Perl modules, and > risk having them overwritten in an upgrade. The new plugin API lets you > create custom eval tests outs

Re: Grelisting without MySQL (was Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM)

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 02:01 pm, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > > > The greylisting milter I found needs MySQL, which I don't have the > > resources for on my current server (K6-300 w/128MB RAM). This is > > just to keep the spam out of my family's in

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

--On Tuesday, February 24, 2004 2:03 PM -0600 "Andrew S. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Assuming you are right, how do I add a new check to SA using an external program without a lot of programming effort or having to become an SA guru? RTFM works when TFM is organized and readable, so at l

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

> Assuming you are right, how do I add a new check to SA using an external > program without a lot of programming effort or having to become an SA > guru? RTFM works when TFM is organized and readable, so at least spare > me that. I think David has pointed out a simple and elegant way to do it la

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > Assuming you are right, how do I add a new check to SA using an external > program without a lot of programming effort or having to become an SA > guru? RTFM works when TFM is organized and readable, so at least spare > me that. You can add it to S

RE: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

> -Original Message- > From: Andrew S. Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2004 1:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM > > > A mail server with a few users (four), but I'm u

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 01:21 pm, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > I've spent lots of time playing with SA and various BL's, but I'm > thinking it's at it's limits of effectiveness. > > NOTHING is or will be better than SpamAssassin because it is, at its core, a > scoring system. If someone inven

Grelisting without MySQL (was Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM)

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > The greylisting milter I found needs MySQL, which I don't have the > resources for on my current server (K6-300 w/128MB RAM). This is > just to keep the spam out of my family's inboxes. Do you know of a > lighter weight version that uses the Berkel

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 01:36 pm, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > > > The greylisting milter I found needs MySQL, which I don't have the > > resources for on my current server (K6-300 w/128MB RAM). > > MySQL is not a resource hog. If you don't want to go

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Andrew S. Johnson wrote: > The greylisting milter I found needs MySQL, which I don't have the > resources for on my current server (K6-300 w/128MB RAM). MySQL is not a resource hog. If you don't want to go through the hassle of installing it, that's cool -- but once MySQL is

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:54 pm, Cormack, Ken wrote: > -Original Message- > ::snip:: > > > Basically, I'm trying to avoid drastic changes to my mail system, since > > it generally works OK. So, the farther the changes get from sendmail, > > theoretically changes should inflict less d

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

> I've spent lots of time playing with SA and various BL's, but I'm thinking it's at it's limits of effectiveness. NOTHING is or will be better than SpamAssassin because it is, at its core, a scoring system. If someone invents a better method of checking spam, you simply install it as one more t

RE: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

-Original Message- ::snip:: > Basically, I'm trying to avoid drastic changes to my mail system, since > it generally works OK. So, the farther the changes get from sendmail, > theoretically changes should inflict less damage. Andy, have you considered (or do you currently use) greylistin

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 12:32 pm, Lucas Albers wrote: > 1.) No spam filtering solution will catch all spam. > Play with your SA rules or enable some blacklists. > 2.) You should configure DSPAM as a plugin into SA. > 3.) SA is better tested then DSPAM, imo. > Run dspam as procmail script and se

Re: [Mimedefang] Replacing SpamAssassin with DSPAM

1.) No spam filtering solution will catch all spam. Play with your SA rules or enable some blacklists. 2.) You should configure DSPAM as a plugin into SA. 3.) SA is better tested then DSPAM, imo. Run dspam as procmail script and see how well it works, running after mimedefang/sa then slowly move it