Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

Doug Brott wrote: David F. Skoll wrote: Hi, all. The ignoramuses at RFC-Ignorant have decided to blacklist roaringpenguin.com. Details at: http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=roaringpenguin.com&submitted=1087414364&table=postmaster Note the final line on that page. Ironic, isn'

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

David F. Skoll wrote: Hi, all. The ignoramuses at RFC-Ignorant have decided to blacklist roaringpenguin.com. Details at: http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=roaringpenguin.com&submitted=1087414364&table=postmaster Note the final line on that page. Ironic, isn't it? I have a long-st

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

Am 29.09.04 um 09:45 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: >Now that I think of it, I can't imagine a situation when a legitimate >MAIL FROM: <> would have multiple RCPT TO's. There is one: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an alias to [EMAIL PROTECTED] + [EMAIL PROTECTED], so that mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] gets distri

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

David F. Skoll wrote: > On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I'm a little confused about the roaringpenguin policy. > > We delay the rejection to after the DATA because some other zealous > sites (eg SourceForge) do a "postmaster" check if you try to > mail them. > Accepting the RCPT

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm a little confused about the roaringpenguin policy. We delay the rejection to after the DATA because some other zealous sites (eg SourceForge) do a "postmaster" check if you try to mail them. Accepting the RCPT command fools these overzealous site

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

I'm a little confused about the roaringpenguin policy. According to the evidence file http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=roaringpenguin.com&submitted=1096422688&table=postmaster the SMTP conversation went like this: MAIL FROM: <> (OK) RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (OK) DATA blah b

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

BTW, does anyone know of an automated piece of code that checks a list of dnsbl's like this for one's own domain? It would be nice to have rapid notice of any listing in the many blacklists out there. Here is a program (blcheck) I found awhile ago on freshmeat, it checks to see if a specific s

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, David F. Skoll wrote: > I will be writing an article about this and posting it on our Web site. > It's a great illustration of the dangers of placing your trust in RBLs. May I suggest rephrasing that to read "blind trust". I have used many RBLs over the years and I agree that

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

--On Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:17 AM -0400 "David F. Skoll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I will be writing an article about this and posting it on our Web site. It's a great illustration of the dangers of placing your trust in RBLs. FYI, check out this thread on the SA list, "Preferred DNSBL"

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On 9/28/2004 16:25, David F. Skoll wrote: > I have a long-standing policy of not bending to the whims of zealous > blacklisters. If you use RFC-Ignorant.org (and you get this message), > complain to the admins who run it. I don't use them, but I complained anyway. Unfortunately, it doesn't appe

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

Here's a good place to check in mass. http://rbls.org/ > From: Kenneth Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant > > BTW, does anyone know of an automated piece of code that checks a list of > dnsbl's lik

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

>> One of Can-It's competitors must have a mindpsring connection, David. ;> > The person who submitted the report is Derek Balling > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and I think he's misguided rather than > malicious. (I think he's the founder of milter.org - right?) Since the IP address belongs to mindspri

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Richard Laager wrote: > From my e-mails to the admin of rfc-ignorant.org, I believe the stance > is that "postmaster" (case-insensitive with or without the domain) must > accept mail from anyone. The basis cited for this is RFC 2821, > specifically section 4.5.1: Dredd is tot

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 03:50:22AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > BTW, does anyone know of an automated piece of code that checks a list of > dnsbl's like this for one's own domain? It would be nice to have rapid > notice of any listing in the many blacklists out there. I have an ancient bit of

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 03:48:21AM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > >roaringpenguin.com (No Longer Listed) [approved by dredd, removed by > >dredd] > > I still see a listing: > > > > An earlier one was removed. And it

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

--On Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:37 AM +0100 Rob MacGregor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looks like they're removed it: roaringpenguin.com (No Longer Listed) [approved by dredd, removed by dredd] I still see a listing:

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

BTW, does anyone know of an automated piece of code that checks a list of dnsbl's like this for one's own domain? It would be nice to have rapid notice of any listing in the many blacklists out there. ___ Visit http://www.mimedefang.org and http://www.c

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 16:25:18 -0400 (EDT), David F. Skoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, all. > > The ignoramuses at RFC-Ignorant have decided to blacklist roaringpenguin.com. Looks like they're removed it: roaringpenguin.com (No Longer Listed) [approved by dredd, removed by dredd] -- Rob Mac

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 20:00, David F. Skoll wrote: > I defy anyone to show me an RFC that says an SMTP implementation > MUST accept mail from <> to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From my e-mails to the admin of rfc-ignorant.org, I believe the stance is that "postmaster" (case-insensitive with or without the

Re: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

hello I've arrived at this thread a bit late. On 29/09/2004, at 11:00 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Fernando Gleiser wrote: If the publicly listed MX record for domain refuses to accept mail with a originator given as <>, then the domain will be considered a viable candidate f

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Fernando Gleiser wrote: > If the publicly listed MX record for domain refuses to accept mail with > a originator given as <>, then the domain will be considered a viable > candidate for inclusion in the zone. My domain accepts mail from <>. Just not for postmaster. We n

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > It seems they're blocking you in clear violation of their own policy: > http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-postmaster.php > -- begin quote -- > It was decided that we wouldn't list folks if the rejection message for postmaster > seemed to indicate

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, Cormack, Ken wrote: > One of Can-It's competitors must have a mindpsring connection, David. ;> The person who submitted the report is Derek Balling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, and I think he's misguided rather than malicious. (I think he's the founder of milter.org - right?) Reg

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

One of Can-It's competitors must have a mindpsring connection, David. ;> -Original Message- From: David F. Skoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 4:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant Hi, all. The i

RE: [Mimedefang] roaringpenguin.com is listed in rfc-ignorant

David F. Skoll wrote: > Hi, all. > > The ignoramuses at RFC-Ignorant have decided to blacklist > roaringpenguin.com. Details at: > > http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/tools/detail.php?domain=roaringpen > guin.com&submitted=1087414364&table=postmaster > > Note the final line on that page. Ironic, isn'