Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-23 Thread Andy Koppe
On 23 September 2010 14:38, NightStrike wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andy Koppe wrote: > Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It would effectively be Interix with a particularly slow fo

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-23 Thread JonY
On 9/23/2010 21:38, NightStrike wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andy Koppe wrote: >> On 21 September 2010 12:51, Earnie wrote: >>> Andy Koppe wrote: > Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It w

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-23 Thread NightStrike
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Andy Koppe wrote: > On 21 September 2010 12:51, Earnie wrote: >> Andy Koppe wrote: Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. >>> >>> No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It would >>> effectively be Interix with a particu

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-23 Thread Earnie
Andy Koppe wrote: > On 22 September 2010 12:54, Earnie wrote: >> Andy Koppe wrote: MSYS on the other hand has no paying customers and the changes there only need to be approved by the FOSS users who code and maintain it. >>> >>> So are you saying that MSYS might become less integrate

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-22 Thread Andy Koppe
On 21 September 2010 22:13, Andy Koppe wrote: > On 21 September 2010 12:51, Earnie wrote: >> Andy Koppe wrote: Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. >>> >>> No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It would >>> effectively be Interix with a particularly

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-21 Thread Andy Koppe
On 21 September 2010 12:51, Earnie wrote: > Andy Koppe wrote: >>> Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. >> >> No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It would >> effectively be Interix with a particularly slow fork(). That's >> unless it moved into its own s

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-21 Thread Earnie
Andy Koppe wrote: >> Cygwin isn't strictly obliged to provide an interface to Windows. > > No, but then it wouldn't really be Cyg*win* anymore. It would > effectively be Interix with a particularly slow fork(). That's > unless it moved into its own subsystem, which of course would mean a > major re

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread Andy Koppe
On 20 September 2010 15:39, JonY wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, JonY wrote: >>> Will 64bit Cygwin be LP64 or LLP64? I sure hope its the former, but I >>> don't know how much thunk is needed. Interesting question. No idea what the answer is, but I guess LP64 would mean LONG == int and

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2010/9/20 NightStrike > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, JonY > wrote: > > On 9/20/2010 22:53, NightStrike wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, JonY > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On 9/20/2010 22:36, Earnie wrote: > > Kai Tietz wrote: > > > > 2010/9/20 Earnie: > >>

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread NightStrike
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, JonY wrote: > On 9/20/2010 22:53, NightStrike wrote: >> >> On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, JonY >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 9/20/2010 22:36, Earnie wrote: Kai Tietz wrote: > > 2010/9/20 Earnie: >> >> Cesar Strauss wrote: >>> >>> Since

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread JonY
On 9/20/2010 22:53, NightStrike wrote: > On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, JonY wrote: >> On 9/20/2010 22:36, Earnie wrote: >>> Kai Tietz wrote: 2010/9/20 Earnie: > Cesar Strauss wrote: >> >> Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support >> for MSYS would be

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread NightStrike
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:28 AM, JonY wrote: > On 9/20/2010 22:36, Earnie wrote: >> Kai Tietz wrote: >>> 2010/9/20 Earnie: Cesar Strauss wrote: > > Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support > for MSYS would be to add it first to Cygwin and port it to MSYS >

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread JonY
On 9/20/2010 22:36, Earnie wrote: > Kai Tietz wrote: >> 2010/9/20 Earnie: >>> Cesar Strauss wrote: Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support for MSYS would be to add it first to Cygwin and port it to MSYS later. However, as this thread indicates, there is

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread Earnie
Kai Tietz wrote: > 2010/9/20 Earnie : >> Cesar Strauss wrote: >>> >>> Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support >>> for MSYS would be to add it first to Cygwin and port it to MSYS >>> later. However, as this thread indicates, there is currently some >>> interest on bringing 6

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread Kai Tietz
2010/9/20 Earnie : > Cesar Strauss wrote: >> >> Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support for >>  MSYS would be to add it first to Cygwin and port it to MSYS later. >> However, as this thread indicates, there is currently some interest >> on bringing 64-bit support to MSYS, w

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-20 Thread Earnie
Cesar Strauss wrote: > > Since MSYS is derived from Cygwin, one way to get 64-bit support for > MSYS would be to add it first to Cygwin and port it to MSYS later. > However, as this thread indicates, there is currently some interest > on bringing 64-bit support to MSYS, while I do not have evidenc

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-19 Thread Cesar Strauss
On 17/9/2010 12:58, ArbolOne wrote: > > Ok, folks. Apparently no one else is jumping on the Build MSYS under > 64bit MSWin waggon. So, let us start with the project. You are welcome to join the MSYS team on mingw.org. You may use the MSYS mailing list, if you wish, to help coordinate this effort.

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-17 Thread Ruben Van Boxem
2010/9/17 JonY > > You should first work on newlib for x64 support, like syscall emulation, > I guess. > > IMHO its probably easier to work on the Cygwin codebase than the > existing MSYS code. > > I would also suggest using cygwin as a base, as it is more up to date than the old msys fork. I wou

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-17 Thread NightStrike
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, ArbolOne wrote: > Ok, folks. Apparently no one else is jumping on the Build MSYS under 64bit > MSWin waggon. So, let us start with the project. > Does any of you know where to get the latest source code? > > MSYS-64 Development Team > ~~ > Teem

Re: [Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-17 Thread JonY
On 9/17/2010 23:58, ArbolOne wrote: > > Ok, folks. Apparently no one else is jumping on the Build MSYS under > 64bit MSWin waggon. So, let us start with the project. > Does any of you know where to get the latest source code? > > MSYS-64 Development Team > ~~ > Teemu mailto:stin

[Mingw-w64-public] MSYS-64 team

2010-09-17 Thread ArbolOne
Ok, folks. Apparently no one else is jumping on the Build MSYS under 64bit MSWin waggon. So, let us start with the project. Does any of you know where to get the latest source code? MSYS-64 Development Team ~~ Teemu mailto:stink...@yahoo.com>> Bidski mailto:bid...@bigpond.n