Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread Jordi Beltran Creix
2010/3/16 Marc Espie : > Of course, it makes it completely impossible to hack on KDE if you're in > the "C++ is crap, everything that matters should be written in C" mentality. > (in fact, KDE is probably the biggest example of readable C++ code I give > to people. Doesn't hurt that it follows on t

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Re: bsd.mp and dual/quad core cpu

2010-03-16 Thread Ted Roby
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Andreas Gerdd wrote: > Hello. > > -If i get a system with single cpu but with 2 or 4 core, should i still > choose > the bsd.mp kernel at the installation? > Most likely, the installation process will recognize your multi-core system as being multi-processor and

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
> Java, on the other hand, from my limited experience trying to tutor > someone in it, *is* crap :) [Well, that's probably too harsh, but it > did give me a headache and RSI from all the damn typing.] People claim Java is portable, when it's not. And a lot of java programs use proprietary libra

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread Corey
On 03/16/2010 03:40 AM, Marc Espie wrote: Well, most of their stuff does work on... windows these days. How non-portable is that ? Seriously, the issues about hal and policykit only impact you if you want kde as a full desktop with all sysadmin. For most of us, who actually only care about kde

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bsd.mp and dual/quad core cpu

2010-03-16 Thread Andreas Gerdd
Hello. -If i get a system with single cpu but with 2 or 4 core, should i still choose the bsd.mp kernel at the installation? I know that bsd.mp is for multiple cpu systems, but would it be useful for a single-processor system with dual/multiple core? or it wouldn't change anything? -What do i nee

Re: Multipath Weirdness

2010-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-03-17, Daniel Melameth wrote: > On a 4.6 system, I'm seeing something that I believe to be wrong. When > sourcing packets from a specific IP, the traffic is being (incorrectly?) > routed out the wrong interface. In this case, packets sourced via vr2's IP > are being sent out vr1. While

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Adriaan
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:49 AM, Dave Anderson wrote: > I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the > environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' > on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, from a browser, or > embedded in some other

Multipath Weirdness

2010-03-16 Thread Daniel Melameth
On a 4.6 system, I'm seeing something that I believe to be wrong. When sourcing packets from a specific IP, the traffic is being (incorrectly?) routed out the wrong interface. In this case, packets sourced via vr2's IP are being sent out vr1. While this doesn't happen all the time, it happens en

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Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2010-03-16, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> On 2010-03-16, Dave Anderson wrote: >>> I do notice that 4.7 has a new divert-to-userland ability that looks >>> like it could be used to solve this problem properly >> >> I think the proxy code involved with

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Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Simon Perreault
J.C. Roberts wrote: match out on ? proto tcp from ? to any port ftp \ rdr-to 127.0.0.1 port 8021 You can't do that. rdr-to only works on input. Without testing it, I don't know how the potential loop can be avoided, or if it even needs to be avoided (note the "match out" examp

Problem with PF - connection is first passed, but later blocked

2010-03-16 Thread Koenig, Thomas
Hi, I try to reach a sftp server behind my openbsd 4.6 firewall. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. SRC IP: 10.100.106.58 DST IP: xxx.xxx.126.244 DST Port: 7400/tcp If I try to connect pflog shows me: Mar 16 20:36:39.570280 rule 201/(match) pass in on em0: 10.100.106.58.35286 > xxx.xxx.126.2

Omission in pf.conf manpage for current at www.openbsd.org?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
In the body of the manpage, the 'divert-packet', 'divert-reply' and 'divert-to' options are mentioned -- but there is no mention of them in the BNF at the end of the manpage (a search on 'divert' finds nothing). Dave -- Dave Anderson

Re: h323 statefull firewall

2010-03-16 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 16/03/10 21:11, Henning Brauer wrote: * Kapetanakis Giannis [2010-03-10 18:50]: Looking through the manual pages as well in this list I found out that there is not any h323 helper for pf. Has this situation changed? no. nobody of us runs that shit. and people running that shit don't care a

Re: bad clock caused reboot?

2010-03-16 Thread Hugo Villeneuve
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:49:58AM +0200, Kapetanakis Giannis wrote: > On 16/03/10 01:10, Nick Holland wrote: > > >nope. Just pulled the plug out of a machine here to verify that, in > >fact. :) > > > >That just means the system came up, not that it went down formally for > >a reboot... > >... >

Re: h323 statefull firewall

2010-03-16 Thread Henning Brauer
* Kapetanakis Giannis [2010-03-10 18:50]: > Looking through the manual pages as well in this list > I found out that there is not any h323 helper for pf. > Has this situation changed? no. nobody of us runs that shit. and people running that shit don't care about security in the first place obviou

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Stuart Henderson wrote: >On 2010-03-16, J.C. Roberts wrote: >> On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Dave Anderson >> wrote: >> >>> >I see two options: >>> > >>> >1. pass out >>> >>> This can work for passive FTP if one is willing to allow outbound >>> connections to all n

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-03-16, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2010-03-16, Dave Anderson wrote: >> I do notice that 4.7 has a new divert-to-userland ability that looks >> like it could be used to solve this problem properly > > I think the proxy code involved with this would be considerably > more complicated than

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Gaby Vanhegan wrote: >On 16 Mar 2010, at 17:24, Dave Anderson wrote: > >> I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the >> environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' >> on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, fr

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-03-16, Dave Anderson wrote: > I do notice that 4.7 has a new divert-to-userland ability that looks > like it could be used to solve this problem properly I think the proxy code involved with this would be considerably more complicated than the current method (even taking into the account

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-03-16, J.C. Roberts wrote: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Dave Anderson > wrote: > >> >I see two options: >> > >> >1. pass out >> >> This can work for passive FTP if one is willing to allow outbound >> connections to all non-privileged ports, but is useless for active >> FTP.

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Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:24:21 -0400 (EDT) Dave Anderson wrote: > A clarification: I do know that ftp-proxy can be used as an explicit > proxy as well as transparently via PF redirection, and that the > FTP_PROXY environment variable can be set to specify an explict proxy > for many programs/script

Re: stinking patches

2010-03-16 Thread Ted Roby
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Jacob Meuser wrote: > > > no need, I've got the patches. glad it finally worked for you :) > > No, thank you!

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Gaby Vanhegan
On 16 Mar 2010, at 17:24, Dave Anderson wrote: > I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the > environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' > on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, from a browser, or > embedded in some other progra

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Dave Anderson wrote: >On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Simon Perreault wrote: > >>On 03/15/2010 11:49 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: >>> I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the >>> environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' >>> on it -

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Dave Anderson wrote: > >I see two options: > > > >1. pass out > > This can work for passive FTP if one is willing to allow outbound > connections to all non-privileged ports, but is useless for active > FTP. > Yes. > >2. ftp-proxy(8) > > Unless I've m

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Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Dave Anderson
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Simon Perreault wrote: >On 03/15/2010 11:49 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: >> I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the >> environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' >> on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, from

Re: questions about OpenBSD 4.7

2010-03-16 Thread Robert
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:06:57 +0200 Andreas Gerdd wrote: > -Any chance to have a postfix package with > both mysql&sasl2 flavor together in upcoming 4.7 packages? Why don't you have a look at /usr/ports/mail/postfix/Makefile yourself? (cvsweb works for that, too.) The answer is no. > -Why is the

Re: questions about OpenBSD 4.7

2010-03-16 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 06:06:57PM +0200, Andreas Gerdd wrote: > -Why is the stock Apache not getting a version update? See the Apache section of http://www.openbsd.org/policy.html

questions about OpenBSD 4.7

2010-03-16 Thread Andreas Gerdd
Hello. -Any chance to have a postfix package with both mysql&sasl2 flavor together in upcoming 4.7 packages? -Why is the stock Apache not getting a version update? It is dozens times older than the current 1.3.42 one. I know that its a modified-by-openbsd one with bugfixes, and so. But such a hug

Re: How to make FTP work from the firewall system?

2010-03-16 Thread Simon Perreault
On 03/15/2010 11:49 PM, Dave Anderson wrote: > I'm configuring a notebook which will use PF to protect itself from the > environments in which I use it, and would like to have FTP 'just work' > on it -- whether it's from an explicit FTP command, from a browser, or > embedded in some other program o

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Re: NFS problems w/ diskless client

2010-03-16 Thread T. Ribbrock
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Jan Stary wrote: > On Mar 15 21:18:15, Thomas Ribbrock wrote: [...] > > Apparently, something in NFS has changed between 4.2 and 4.5 (and > > higher) - and I just cannot figure out what... Hence, I have no idea > > what I would need to change nor what to in

Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?

2010-03-16 Thread Lars Nooden
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010, Cameron Simpson wrote: ...I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and then using the CD2 disc for the install data. Will that work, or will the i386 install still load up some inappropriate i386 items (eg the boot sector)? If the network, usb or other media work in the

Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?

2010-03-16 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:30:15 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2010-03-16, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the > > OpenBSD distro not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no > > floppy and the box won't boot off a USB device at

Re: NFS problems w/ diskless client

2010-03-16 Thread Jan Stary
On Mar 15 21:18:15, Thomas Ribbrock wrote: > Hi all, > > (2nd try - the first message didn't make it to the list, apparently) > > I'm currently trying to get one of my SGI Indys to run as a diskless > music player. I'm using Debian Linux (Lenny) for that and the Indy is > supposed to be booting d

Re: installing amd64 using i386 to boot then amd64 for install?

2010-03-16 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-03-16, Cameron Simpson wrote: > I have the apparently common problem of CD2 (amd64) from the OpenBSD distro > not booting on an IBM x336. And of course there's no floppy and the box won't > boot off a USB device at all. > > One of the avenues I'm considering is booting off the i386 CD1 and

Re: axe(4) USB Adapter detected, but not working.

2010-03-16 Thread Alexandru Diaconu
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:33:54PM +0200, Alexandru Diaconu wrote: >> Hi, >> >> The adapter in question is a LevelOne USB-0201 which, AFAIK, uses the >> ASIX >> AX88178 chipset. When I plug in the UTP cable, its status doesn't >> change, >> it remains set to "no carrier" as if nothing happened (y

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread matteo filippetto
2010/3/16 Toni Mueller > Hi, > > On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 07:37:42 +0001, Jason McIntyre > wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > > An optimizer (or any other such device) which is on by default and > > > claims to not change semantics, should imho be transpare

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Tue, 16.03.2010 at 07:37:42 +0001, Jason McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > > An optimizer (or any other such device) which is on by default and > > claims to not change semantics, should imho be transparent to the user, > > but this one isn't

Re: wireless iwi

2010-03-16 Thread oscar camillett
Hi here is my dmesg : OpenBSD 4.6 (GENERIC) #0: Sun Mar 14 11:39:02 GMT 2010 r...@kellper.aku-kellper.com:/ usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.73GHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 1.73 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV

Re: bad clock caused reboot?

2010-03-16 Thread Kapetanakis Giannis
On 16/03/10 01:10, Nick Holland wrote: nope. Just pulled the plug out of a machine here to verify that, in fact. :) That just means the system came up, not that it went down formally for a reboot... ... Mar 15 09:46:05 server /bsd: WARNING: / was not properly unmounted and again, substantia

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 09:13:16AM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > KDE cares in so far as they accept patches and would welcome a developer > that targets OpenBSD. I know because I've talked to some of them on IRC. > > There's however no effort to do it themselves or even set up a testbox > to make s

Re: kde4 dead?

2010-03-16 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:00:54PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 03:19:41PM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 04:33:03AM -0500, Donald Cooley wrote: > > > openports shows that the openbsd version of kde4 is nearly two years > > > old. are there any future

Re: pfctl(8): unclear docs

2010-03-16 Thread Jason McIntyre
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:35:23PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 15.03.2010 at 13:04:04 +, Jason McIntyre > wrote: > > doesn;t "Other rules and options are ignored." already cover this? > > may be. But then, you are possibly only too deeply entrenched in this > stuff to "see"