On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 01:16:38AM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
On Tuesday 22 June 2010 11:11:59 pm you wrote:
I use gmail and I filter on:
Matches: to:(misc@openbsd.org)
A mail that is sent to misc@openbsd.org, and CC to my personal address,
should
have the mailing list copy
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 02:10:56 am Alexander Schrijver wrote:
I use the Sender: header.
How is it that you manage to filter on that in gmail? Because it's not
documented anywhere that I can find, and the only undocumented parameters I
could find are replyto, deliveredto, and listid. A
maybe pf related ? did you try to disable it ?
Yes, no effect as far as I recall.
I did a diff on both PF configs, they are pretty much exactly the
same apart from obvious things like interface names and IP
addresses.
You did not provide too much detail so its hard to guess.
Yes, sorry, a
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 02:36:41AM -0400, Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 02:10:56 am Alexander Schrijver wrote:
I use the Sender: header.
How is it that you manage to filter on that in gmail? Because it's not
documented anywhere that I can find, and the only
Check for the X-Loop header
On 2010 Jun 22 (Tue) at 20:24:12 -0400 (-0400), Casey Allen Shobe wrote:
:Why do the OpenBSD lists have no List-ID header?
:
:With the existing set of headers, it's impossible to filter the mail in gmail
:and other lame mail clients that don't allow arbitrary headers
Hi,
since upgrading to 4.7 and now 4.7-current I can not really use the
softraid with sparc64 (SUN v440) anymore. When copying many small files
(something like CVS) I always have the server crash with the following
messages.
Any ideas?
Michael
splassert: inodedep_lookup: want 5 have 10
hi,
thanks, good finding!
it looks right, but i have to re-think the promisc handling of trunk a
bit to see if we
a) either inherit the promisc flag on the trunk device directly which
means that trunks would always be promisc (sounds bad...).
b) find a way to use trunk without enforcing the
Somebody knows if this problem only happends on Intel
X58/5500/5600
chipsets ? Did somebody tried the i386 version of OpenBSD 4.7 ?
I am running 4.7 i386 release (+ errata patches) on a Intel 5500
platform with the following Intel NIC. Seems to be behaving itself
so far.
(Sorry no
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:02:14AM +0100, rh...@hushmail.com wrote:
Somebody knows if this problem only happends on Intel
X58/5500/5600
chipsets ? Did somebody tried the i386 version of OpenBSD 4.7 ?
I am running 4.7 i386 release (+ errata patches) on a Intel 5500
platform with the
Thank you for the messages regarding /var/run/dmesg.boot. I bow
to your combined superior wisdoms !
Hope this is of assistance : ;-)
OpenBSD 4.7 (GENERIC.MP) #0: Sat Jan 10 10:10:10 GMT 2010
r...@example.com:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5502 @
Hi All,
I am trying to get some Web page on a IPv6 host by
using an OPenBSD 4.7 as a router. I can get the Web page
from the router but not from a host in the local net.
I have tried with OpenSolaris machine and Windows 7 machines.
At the same time the similar commands with one address hangs
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 02:19:17 +0200
Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de wrote:
as rock solid as they might be, at this age, the likeliness of them
dieing anytime soon is growing. fast.
Hard drives and fans aside, there comes a point where a system has
passed the test of time, and so a system
I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_bsd_opensolarisnum=1
Best Regards,
Ektor
Bonjour,
Afin de vous faire dicouvrir notre nouvelle gamme de cartouches pour
imprimantes, nous avons le plaisir de vous offrir un Apple iPad pour toute
commande de 1200 euros h.t. de cartouches de laser ou jet d'encre de notre
gamme Eco-Low-Cost.
Fabriquies en France avec de l'encre non
I'm missing info about how much and where is real crypto and security
techniques used in those systems. Oh waitit's Phoronix. Now it's
clear. I have better toy then you benchmark type :-)
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com
wrote:
I know
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Ektor Wetterstrvm ektw...@gmail.com wrote:
I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
[benchmarks]
facinating number of posts like this recently, all from gmail users
we've never seen
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:11:09AM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:05:31PM -0700, Matt S wrote:
I apologize in advance if this subject has been addressed but I was unable
to turn up anything from a Google search and the manual pages did not quite
yield enough
Hi
Very good performance putty :)
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 12:36:38 +0200, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com
wrote:
I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
[benchmarks]
facinating
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:13:30AM +0200, Michael Lechtermann wrote:
Hi,
since upgrading to 4.7 and now 4.7-current I can not really use the
softraid with sparc64 (SUN v440) anymore. When copying many small files
(something like CVS) I always have the server crash with the following
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 12:36:38PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
[benchmarks]
facinating
I agree, but you should admit that OpenBSD is clearly a looser in
regard to pure performances (e.g. I/O, compression, encryption,
etc.)
Yes, if my goal is to have ZOMG AWEZUMZ benchmarks, clearly OpenBSD
is a douchebag.
But if I want a system that doesn't make me want to initiate a mass-
I agree, but you should admit that OpenBSD is clearly a looser in
regard to pure performances (e.g. I/O, compression, encryption,
etc.)
Nick.
Bye,
Ektor
They should have also ran tests on multiple hardware, single core and
32bit.
32 bit, out performs 64bit on OpenBSD, atleast in my
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Nick Holland
n...@holland-consulting.net wrote:
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what
No. Their chipsets give a 16 PCIe 2 lanes and 4 PICe 1.1 lanes, so you
have a 16x2 PCIe slot for the gfx card and a 4x1.1 PCIe slot (or 4
1x1.1 PCIe slots). USB 3 is faster 1x1.1 PICe, so you need a 4xPICe
USB3 card. Most USB3 cards are 1xPICe, though.
If you need USB 3, get an AMD board.
crickets chirping
yawn
/crickets chirping
Continues working...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:01:44 -0400, Nick Holland wrote:
On 06/23/10 06:36, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
I know http://bullshit.fefe.de/ is wrong / outdated /
non-scientific / whatever... But what about this? Phoronix has more
credibility imho...
[benchmarks]
facinating number of posts like
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:20:34 +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
Bye,
Promise?
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On 21-06-2010 22:44, Ruy Bento wrote:
...
My question is: In this small env. (100 MB - RAM) I need to change the
Kernel memory or other sysctl value, which one?
Thank you for all your replys and comments.
In 4.6 everything work perfect, so what happen 4.6 - 4.7, it need more mem?
And if
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:20:34 +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
Bye,
Promise?
Sure, this is my last mail on the topic. I only wanted to know Your
opinions about these types of benchmarks...
By the way, I like OpenBSD and I
2010/6/23 Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk:
I guess the addon card makers dropped a clanger and this will be
rectified. Do you know if they just run at a lower speed on some boards?
Yes. If you want USB3 with Intel, wait for chipsets with integrated USB3.
Best
Martin
By the way, I like OpenBSD and I really appreciate its strong points
but, unlike You, I have no problems in admitting its weaknesses (I see
to much zealotry here)...
Not that I have a lot of room to talk because I haven't submitted a patch
yet... However, I think the general belief is that
2010/6/22 mark hellewell mark.hellew...@gmail.com:
http://www.news.com.au/technology/no-anti-virus-software-no-internet-connecti
on/story-e6frfro0-1225882656490
Illegal to run without antivirus ... disconnection of vulnerable
computers. A much needed kick up the arse for software makers or
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 08:39:20AM -0400, Adam M. Dutko wrote:
Not that I have a lot of room to talk because I haven't submitted a patch
yet...
this statement is weird, in some way.
reyk
this statement is weird, in some way.
I concur. I'll shutup. :-)
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Reyk Floeter r...@openbsd.org wrote:
this statement is weird, in some way.
that statement is self-referential . . . so, I agree, it's a bit weird ;-)
reyk
I recognize that there has been a long time issue with PowerMac G5
SATA support but I was pleasantly surprised to discover that it is
recognized on my Dual 1.8 GHz G5 system. I haven't tried to use
OpenBSD on this system before but I would love to get it running.
Unfortunately, right after the K2
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote:
This will not work because em0 is having the clonable route for
172.16.0/24 and so arp is unable to work on vether0 since you created an
addressing conflict.
Thank you for your response. I have been testing it
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 14:29:24 +0200
Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote:
(I see to much zealotry here)...
It is not zealotry at all. Just a want to be straight and get things
correct. Questions which turn out, to be next to meaningless in the
real world, can annoy.
If I knew what tests
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
Lots of fake people attacking the project on the mailing lists makes
them a poor resource for users.
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run with
kern.splassert=2
in your sysctl.conf. This will produce a panic or at least some
more verbose output.
As far as I can quickly see, IPL_BIO is expected, but IPL_CLOCK is
being seen.
With kern.splassert=2:
panic: timeout_add: not initialized
Starting stack trace...
End of
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old userland-only
thread library), no support for modern filesystems (not even FFS2!),
2010/6/24, Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com:
filesystems (not even FFS2!),
??
Please take a look at man newfs?
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On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstrvm wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstr?m wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old
The good news is that the snapshot install works.
--
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~When practicing unconditional acceptance start with your self
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 7:22 PM, patrick keshishian pkesh...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Jason Wagstaff wagsta...@gmail.com
wrote:
Tomas,
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:16:43AM -0400, Bryan Vyhmeister wrote:
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com
wrote:
This will not work because em0 is having the clonable route for
172.16.0/24 and so arp is unable to work on vether0 since you created an
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Claudio Jeker
cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com wrote:
I am having a hard time getting a non-encrypted gif(4) tunnel working.
Can anyone share a working config? I think if I can get gif(4) working
right then I can get vether(4) working as well. Thanks again!
ifconfig
I knew it was something stupid. I added
set skip on { gif0 vether0 }
to pf.conf for testing and everything started working. Sorry for the noise.
Bryan
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:53:09 +0200
Ektor WetterstrC6m ektw...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
Lack of proper SMP support, inefficient threading (old
OpenBSD pleases me every day, Linux annoys me half the time.
The number of mass casualty events avoided is the true metric
by which operating systems should be measured.
Hi,
Is it possible to launch the second restricted control socket
without having to pkill bgpd first ?
I tried running bgpd -r without pkill first and that did not have
the desired effect, it simply tried to relaunch conections to any
configured peers rather than simply start up the second
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:08:34 +0100
Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Would you run X on your linux server, because it's easier. I wouldn't
trade PF for better threading any day and you can always use multiple
systems, whilst wasting very little power these days, if you try. It's
far
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 09:09:02PM +0100, rh...@hushmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Is it possible to launch the second restricted control socket
without having to pkill bgpd first ?
I tried running bgpd -r without pkill first and that did not have
the desired effect, it simply tried to relaunch
I do have one more question. I have the config below. I can ping the
vether0 address from the other side of the tunnel from either host.
Also, all IP addresses mentioned are publicly routable.
On host1:
ifconfig em0 1.1.1.1/24 up
ifconfig gif0 tunnel 1.1.1.1 2.2.2.2 up
ifconfig vether0
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a decade.
Matthew Dempsky wrote:
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a decade.
Hmm, I am not using it , but I keep it
While most of us already know how the subject rings true, I still found the
following from REBOL's CTO's public blog post interesting nonetheless (I've
never used REBOL):
This was an interesting build, because it exposed a unique bug due to the
more secure methods of memory allocation on OpenBSD.
2010/6/23 Matthew Dempsky matt...@dempsky.org:
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a decade.
I do still use
Matthew Dempsky wrote:
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a decade.
I am a heavy scanner user and I
facinating number of posts like this recently, all from gmail users
we've never seen before...
Yes, it's troll year.
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a decade.
I have a few SCSI scanners hanging off various OpenBSD
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Predrag Punosevac
punoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
I discovered very quickly by reading
sane-backends man pages that support for several of HP SCSI model is
just a cheap hack which works only on
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Predrag Punosevac
punoseva...@gmail.com wrote:
I discovered very quickly by reading
sane-backends man pages that support for several of HP SCSI model is
just a cheap hack which works only on Linux (driver expect device names,
driver names to be Linux).
That's
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 02:21:27PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
SCSI scanners are marked obsolete at least as of the latest SCSI
working drafts, and other than updates to keep in sync with other
kernel subsystem changes, ss(4) doesn't seem to have received any real
attention in about a
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Kenneth R Westerback
kwesterb...@rogers.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote:
That's disappointing to hear. :-(
sane != ss
Right. I mean it's disappointing just the same that sane wasn't
working for his scanners, even if
2010/6/23 Daniel Melameth dan...@melameth.com
While most of us already know how the subject rings true, I still found the
following from REBOL's CTO's public blog post interesting nonetheless (I've
never used REBOL):
This was an interesting build, because it exposed a unique bug due to the
On Wednesday 23 June 2010 11:16:37 Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 04:53:09PM +0200, Ektor Wetterstr?m wrote:
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
What are the unsurpassable real world weaknesses in OpenBSD, that you
know of?
I can't seem to get X to work beyond 800x600 on VMware Workstation 7.0
regardless of what Modes I specify in xorg.conf. All the prior information I
find on Google doesn't seem to work anymore despite the problem not being
new.
Anyone know how it is done these days? Or about getting VMware
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On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 6:29 AM, John Lists Tate
john-li...@johntate.org wrote:
I can't seem to get X to work beyond 800x600 on VMware Workstation 7.0
regardless of what Modes I specify in xorg.conf. All the prior information I
find on Google doesn't seem to work anymore despite the problem not
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