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Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread patrick keshishian
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Easy! > > vim > BSD > mutt > 7 bit > > no controversy at all because everyone else is wrong and they know it. > > On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:11:41AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote: >> I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD,

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Matthew Szudzik wrote: > > So you want to see '41' instead of the letter 'A'? That's "how the > > computer sees the data"... > > I simply want to be able to know "at one glance" what data the computer > is using. For that purpose, it is unnecessary to decode an "A" as 0x41. > The ASCII characte

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread J Sisson
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Easy! > > vim > BSD > mutt > 7 bit > > no controversy at all because everyone else is wrong and they know it. > > That looks like a good combo, yep.

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Marco Peereboom
Easy! vim BSD mutt 7 bit no controversy at all because everyone else is wrong and they know it. On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 12:11:41AM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote: > I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD, Pine vs Mutt, etc. > But ASCII vs Unicode is new to me.

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
I know lots of flamewars, Emacs vs vi, GPL vs BSD, Pine vs Mutt, etc. But ASCII vs Unicode is new to me.

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Marco Peereboom
7 bits ought to be enough for everyone! On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 07:50:16PM +, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:33:23AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: > > Umm, punycode wasn't developed because of problems with > > distinguishability. Indeed, it does nothing to solve those, s

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Matthew Szudzik wrote: > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:33:23AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: ... >> experience by using LC_ALL=C. Oops, never mind, OpenBSD hasn't >> actually implemented "plain ASCII only" for years. > > The fact that OpenBSD doesn't implement "plain

[solve] Re: becoming a openbsd developer , any guides ?

2010-08-05 Thread Aaron Lewis
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Re: dhcp and bridge problem

2010-08-05 Thread Mikolaj Kucharski
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:13:15PM +0100, Mikolaj Kucharski wrote: > On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:30:22PM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: > > Maybe try a -current snapshot. There was some bridge(4) work to make the > > broadcast and tcpdump behaviour better but maybe something was missed. > > Thanks Cla

Re: dhcp and bridge problem

2010-08-05 Thread Mikolaj Kucharski
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:30:22PM +0200, Claudio Jeker wrote: > Maybe try a -current snapshot. There was some bridge(4) work to make the > broadcast and tcpdump behaviour better but maybe something was missed. Thanks Claudio, that helped. Now everything seems to work. OpenBSD 4.8-beta (GENERIC)

installing symux, can't load libraries

2010-08-05 Thread David Hardy
I'm trying to install symux, and when I try and run it I get: /usr/local/libexec/symux: can't load library 'libfontconfig.so.6.0' i have installed xbase47.tgz (it wasn't installed originally), and the library is there in /usr/X11R6/lib and I have run 'ldconfig /usr/X11R6/lib'. I have also added

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Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 11:33:23AM -0700, Philip Guenther wrote: > Umm, punycode wasn't developed because of problems with > distinguishability. Indeed, it does nothing to solve those, so I'm > not sure why you would suggest that. punycode exists to encode Although punycode may not have been dev

Re: dhcp and bridge problem

2010-08-05 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:59:07AM +0100, Mikolaj Kucharski wrote: > Hi, > > I have two OpenBSD machines, one is a router, second is a guest on KVM > virtual machine (Fedora 13), both run same OpenBSD version (see below > for details). I've also used Windows machine connected to sis2 and it > has

Re: dhcp and bridge problem

2010-08-05 Thread Mikolaj Kucharski
Do I need any special parameter to ifconfig(8) to allow Ethernet broadcast address (ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff) travel to all bridge members? On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:59:07AM +0100, Mikolaj Kucharski wrote: > Hi, > > I have two OpenBSD machines, one is a router, second is a guest on KVM > virtual machi

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Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Philip Guenther
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:49 AM, Matthew Szudzik wrote: ... > But it's even worse, because unicode also violates the principle > (established by Alan Turing in 1936) that any two characters should be > humanly distinguishable "at a glance". [Citation needed] > This has led to the invention of >

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No VLAN Tag seen by switch on CARP interface on VLAN interface

2010-08-05 Thread Steve Johnson
Hi, I had written below some details on the problem that I was seeing, and I was doing a bit more investigating and did a port monitor on our switches on the OBSD relative interface, as well as some TCP dumps on the OBSD box. The dump on the OBSD box shows that ARP replies include 802.1Q tra

Re: Disk RPM

2010-08-05 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Read this http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq14.html#disklabel and you will know why you don't need to care about that rpm info On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:51 PM, wrote: > Kevin, thanks for the reply. B I won't mess with the rpm value then. B Although, I did see some dmesg on the internet that had highe

Re: Disk RPM

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:51:53 +0200 cnie...@gmx.net wrote: > Kevin, thanks for the reply. I won't mess with the rpm value then. > Although, I did see some dmesg on the internet that had higher rpm values. > > I'm not worried about the boot speed of the samba server. All that matters > is the

Re: OpenBSD users.

2010-08-05 Thread Mauricio Barrera
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Re: CARP + PF

2010-08-05 Thread Claer
On Thu, Aug 05 2010 at 50:12, Z Wing wrote: [...] > The question I have is how do I get dhclient working with the cable modem, > given that the IP address is dynamic? dhclient doesn't work when the carp > interface is in INIT mode and I'm not sure how to get carp to "share" the IP > address between

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Re: OpenBSD users.

2010-08-05 Thread luka
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Re: Disk RPM

2010-08-05 Thread cniesen
Kevin, thanks for the reply. I won't mess with the rpm value then. Although, I did see some dmesg on the internet that had higher rpm values. I'm not worried about the boot speed of the samba server. All that matters is the file access and data transfer speed. Original-Nachricht ---

Re: addon to website faq

2010-08-05 Thread Olivier Mehani
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 01:31:41PM +0400, Matthew Gladkikh wrote: > Hello, I would like to add some usefull tip to > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html > It is how to convert existing linux machine to openbsd on hosting providers > that do not provide openbsd support but do provide rescue mode. >

Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I sent two mails, one right after the other and one got through straight away and the other took ages. I'd understand it the other way around (spamd) which is what I always thought was the cause (low whitelist timeout). One got received by shear.ucar.edu an hour later than another via a different

CARP + PF

2010-08-05 Thread Z Wing
Hi all, I have a cable modem and an ADSL line at home; the DSL line gives me a static ip but the cable modem gives me a dynamic one. My plan was to use 2 openbsd boxes as network routers with CARP for failover, the idea being that I would plug the cable modem into a switch and plug both boxes into

Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Sorry, just noticed the subject and looked closer, are you sure it does restart. Cos that second logs looks like a start after a stop. I guess the first restart failed but it did stop and the second restart failed but it did start. I remember some discussion about changing the script so maybe that

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Matthew Szudzik
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 01:36:17PM -0700, Matthew Dempsky wrote: > Is there any useful documentation that explains how you're supposed to > write C code and what's changed under the i18n New World Order? From > your message, it sounds like we're going to have to rewrite nearly all > of our user-sp

Re: addon to website faq

2010-08-05 Thread Matthew Gladkikh
Aha ok what about incorporating both of this solutions in FAQ? - the way I described is absolutely native and easy - works on most linux systems as QEMU and it's VNC is working fine by default - and installation is absolutely straightforward as described in FAQ - the only things need to be fixed l

Re: 4.8-beta no keyboard or mouse on Toshiba tecra-8000

2010-08-05 Thread Jasper Valentijn
2010/8/5 Jacob Meuser : > man pckbc, second paragraph of DESCRIPTION > Thanks Jacob, works as before again! And for the archive: OpenBSD 4.8-beta (GENERIC) #68: Tue Aug 3 09:03:21 MDT 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel Pentium II ("GenuineIntel"

Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread Olivier Mehani
Hi, On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 05:00:29PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > = > [Thu Aug 5 16:56:38 2010] [notice] SIGUSR1 received. Doing graceful > restart > Syntax error on line 275 of /conf/httpd.conf: > Cannot load /usr/lib/apache/modules/mod_perl.so i

Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread David Coppa
Guys, this is clearly written in the apachectl(8) man page On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:48 AM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > You need to stop and start when using chroot, graceful won't work > without -u, which you probably don't want to use. > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530 > Siju George wrote: >

Re: apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
You need to stop and start when using chroot, graceful won't work without -u, which you probably don't want to use. On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 17:00:29 +0530 Siju George wrote: > Hi, > > Any idea any one? Is this the right behavior? > > # apachectl graceful > /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful: httpd grace

apachectl graceful on a running chrooted apache on 4.7 stops it the first time and starts with the new configuration only when specified a second time

2010-08-05 Thread Siju George
Hi, Any idea any one? Is this the right behavior? # apachectl graceful /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful: httpd gracefully restarted # apachectl graceful /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful: httpd not running, trying to start /usr/sbin/apachectl graceful: httpd started # # apachectl graceful /usr/sbin/apache

Re: 4.8-beta no keyboard or mouse on Toshiba tecra-8000

2010-08-05 Thread Jacob Meuser
man pckbc, second paragraph of DESCRIPTION On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:35:38PM +0200, Jasper Valentijn wrote: > Hi list, > > When the machine is booted without an external ps2 keyboard connected > the built-in keyboard and pointer won't work. > Built-in keyboard works at bootloader and UKC, not aft

4.8-beta no keyboard or mouse on Toshiba tecra-8000

2010-08-05 Thread Jasper Valentijn
Hi list, When the machine is booted without an external ps2 keyboard connected the built-in keyboard and pointer won't work. Built-in keyboard works at bootloader and UKC, not after loading the kernel. >From what I can see the behaviour started somewhere after 4.6, as the keyboard worked at that

Re: Most barebones pf.conf

2010-08-05 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2010 Aug 05 (Thu) at 10:42:21 +1000 (+1000), Olivier Mehani wrote: :=== pf.conf === :match out on egress from (ingress:network) to any nat-to (egress) :pass all :== You can simplify this even more: pass out from !(egress) nat-to (egress:0) the 'egress' group is added to any interface that

addon to website faq

2010-08-05 Thread Matthew Gladkikh
Hello, I would like to add some usefull tip to http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq9.html It is how to convert existing linux machine to openbsd on hosting providers that do not provide openbsd support but do provide rescue mode. It is simple like starting obsd install in qemu (in rescue cd mode), acces

Re: UTF-8

2010-08-05 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:20:12 +0900 Jordi Beltran Creix wrote: > 2010/8/5 Matthew Dempsky : > > On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Jordi Beltran Creix > > All programs that output raw strings, don't attempt alignment, and > don't work with glyphs or code points(stuff like regexes is out but > not si

Re: svnserve and SASL

2010-08-05 Thread mail
Hi, just for the archives I'm answering to my own questions below: I found the solution to that problem via ktrace/kdump. Starting svnserve with ktrace revealed that the process tries to read: /usr/local/lib/sasl2/svn.conf Furthermore the .db extension is not required in this file and no special

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