Re: Troubles compiling 4.8-stable userland on amd64

2010-11-24 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
On Wednesday 24 November 2010 08:07:49 am Don Jackson wrote: OK, removing DESTDIR from my build-userland shell script fixed the problem. To be specific, the FAQ says: Make sure all the appropriate directories are created. # cd /usr/src/etc env DESTDIR=/ make distrib-dirs Here the

Re: OT: Disadvantages of using virtual firewalls like OpenBSd

2010-11-24 Thread SJP Lists
On 24 November 2010 01:12, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote: carlopmart wrote: Advantages are very clear for me: provisioning, administration tasks, etc ... But I will to know disadvantages. What is your opinion from the point of view of security? I use virtualization for many things

Re: OT: Disadvantages of using virtual firewalls like OpenBSd

2010-11-24 Thread SJP Lists
On 24 November 2010 07:28, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote: Nick Holland wrote: what's changed? Layering? Nope. Crappy programming? Nope. Better hardware? not really. Features-before-security? Nope. Good points. The goals of virtualization are, easy management, power savings,

[PATCH] acpibat power units for battery on EEE 901 and Samsung N220

2010-11-24 Thread Matthias Guedemann
fixes wrong power unit reporting when booting without battery and inserting the battery later on Asus EEE 901 and Samsung N220. Index: src/sys/dev/acpi/acpibat.c === RCS file: /cvs/src/sys/dev/acpi/acpibat.c,v retrieving revision

Re: Curiosity about pftop rate monitoring

2010-11-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-24, Elliott Barrere elliott.barr...@mywedding.com wrote: Hi all, maybe I'm failing to understand pftop, but I can't seem to reconcile this. I run pftop -orate -vspeed (or just run it and switch to that view) and I see one connection supposedly using a huge amount of bandwidth: PR

Re: em(4) detailed errors

2010-11-24 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2010-11-23, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: Hi, On Tue, 23.11.2010 at 11:07:40 -0500, Ted Unangst ted.unan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 03:16:57PM +0100, Toni Mueller wrote: # ifconfig em3

Re: A bad entry in the spamdb kills pfctl

2010-11-24 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
Op Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:05:14 +0100 schreef Peter Fraser p...@thinkage.ca: Somehow I have an bad entry in my /var/db/spamdb the entry in question is a follows. GREY|kadorken.thspamdb -t -a itroll.03092...@thinkage.chinkage.on.ca|spamdb -t -a kgdykesb...@thinkage.on.ca|spamdb -t -a

Re: Unattended OpenBSD Installation

2010-11-24 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi Nick, On Sun, 14.11.2010 at 11:31:52 -0700, Nick Bender nben...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently working on the next version which is much better - it meets all your requirements. I'm calling it redux and I'm including the readme below. this is great news! Any chance to get this into the

Re: OT: Disadvantages of using virtual firewalls like OpenBSd

2010-11-24 Thread SJP Lists
On 24 November 2010 19:34, SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote: On 24 November 2010 01:12, Brad Tilley b...@16systems.com wrote: carlopmart wrote: Advantages are very clear for me: provisioning, administration tasks, etc ... But I will to know disadvantages. What is your opinion from the

OpenBSD 4.8 crash unexpectedly

2010-11-24 Thread Bahador NazariFard
Hi I am using of OpenBSD 4.8 as a firewall box but it is started to annoy me :(( My problem is OpenBSD crashes unexpectedly (specially when im not at my desk) How can I find the source of this problem. Also I have installed these packages: pkg_info -m clamav-0.96.1p0 virus scanner

Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread James Hozier
My first programming language ever was Visual Basic, but I was 11 years old at the time and it was just a mandatory elective class I had to take to get credits in order to graduate school, and I didn't even know what a programming language was back then. I thought I was just writing words on

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 24 06:55:20, James Hozier wrote: I read online that the first programming language one learns could be crucial to the person's future programming skills and habits that become ported to other programming languages they learn later Start with LISP, I'm tellin' ya.

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Bret Lambert
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:55 PM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: My first programming language ever was Visual Basic, but I was 11 years old at the time and it was just a mandatory elective class I had to take to get credits in order to graduate school, and I didn't even know what a

Can't build SOPE from ports.

2010-11-24 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
I'm trying to build SOPE from ports, but keep getting a message I really don't understand: failed to link required library: ssl All dependencies seem to build fine. I'm running OpenBSD 4.8-current (upgraded yesterday from snapshots) on amd64. Ports tree is up to date. The full message I get is:

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Marco Peereboom
That is a bit of a rough book to start with but very good. It is very dense but touches on most language features. Its density is actually what makes it so good. You can read it twice in a weekend. Once you do that pick a simple utility from /bin and go read the code. That will put what you

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Jona Joachim
On 2010-11-24, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Nov 24 06:55:20, James Hozier wrote: I read online that the first programming language one learns could be crucial to the person's future programming skills and habits that become ported to other programming languages they learn later Start

Re: OT: Disadvantages of using virtual firewalls like OpenBSd

2010-11-24 Thread carlopmart
On 11/24/2010 02:36 PM, SJP Lists wrote: On 24 November 2010 19:34, SJP Listssjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote: On 24 November 2010 01:12, Brad Tilleyb...@16systems.com wrote: carlopmart wrote: Advantages are very clear for me: provisioning, administration tasks, etc ... But I will to know

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Kenneth Gober
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 9:55 AM, James Hozier guitars...@yahoo.com wrote: ... I read online that the first programming language one learns could be crucial to the person's future programming skills and habits that become ported to other programming languages they learn later on, and I don't

Re: OpenBSD 4.8 crash unexpectedly

2010-11-24 Thread Bahador NazariFard
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:35 PM, roberth rob...@openbsd.pap.st wrote: On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:21:14 +0330 Bahador NazariFard bahador.nazarif...@gmail.com wrote: please help me :(( start by sending a full dmesg to the list. sorry ! you are right! I forgot to include this important data.

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Scott Learmonth
It something I keep dabbling in - very sowly - I find this a good pace for my totally noob self: It started out as a reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/carlhprogramming And morphed to: http://www.highercomputingforeveryone.com/ It's certainly a start from zero but I like the pace, and the C

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Bahador NazariFard
I agree with Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us He told Learning C is easy; learning to using C right is the hard part. Read more code to learn from the experts. I think if you are sharp u can learn C during one week. But using C is not so easy. You should be able to think as a programmer. I

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Michael H Lambert
On 24 Nov 2010, at 11:14, Bahador NazariFard wrote: I agree with Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us He told Learning C is easy; learning to using C right is the hard part. Read more code to learn from the experts. I think if you are sharp u can learn C during one week. But using C is not

Re: A bad entry in the spamdb kills pfctl

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Fraser
That worked thanks -Original Message- From: owner-m...@openbsd.org [mailto:owner-m...@openbsd.org] On Behalf Of Boudewijn Dijkstra Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 6:08 AM To: OpenBSD misc Subject: Re: A bad entry in the spamdb kills pfctl Op Tue, 23 Nov 2010 18:05:14 +0100 schreef

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Brad Tilley
James Hozier wrote: Are there any books that are more noob-friendly that want to learn C as their first language and explain basic programming terms along the way? I'm no expert, but I do program C for applications (not operating systems). My advice would be to study data structures, pointers

uhts calibration

2010-11-24 Thread Дмитрий Царьков
Hello! I have an ASUS R2Hv tablet featuring 3 input devices configured as wsmose by system: 1. trackpoint (wsmouse0); 2. touchscreen (wsmouse1); 3. mouse buttons (wsmouse2). Everything works fine, but touchscreen needs calibration. Using xtsscale doesn't help as touchscreen is wsmouse1, and

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Brad Tilley
Brad Tilley wrote: James Hozier wrote: Are there any books that are more noob-friendly that want to learn C as their first language and explain basic programming terms along the way? Forgot to mention a book... If you decide to take the C++ route, I suggest Accelerated C++.

Re: extra slashes in gcc errors?

2010-11-24 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 22/11/10 21:31, Ted Unangst wrote: this appears to be newish, but could possibly date as far back as gcc 4 import. does anyone else see this? did an extra slash get added somwhere? it looks funny. mini:/tmp gcc -c fake.c In file included from fake.c:2: /usr//include/resolv.h:143:

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Peter J. Philipp
Hi, I see you already bought the book, perhaps an online primer could help you too. I have dabbled in writing a C primer on Hackepedia at http://www.hackepedia.org/?title=C_Primer You can read it, and you can modify it and add other parts if you wish. The C examples have a line number in

Re: extra slashes in gcc errors?

2010-11-24 Thread Brynet
Hugo wrote: As defined by POSIX: Multiple successive slashes are considered to be the same as one slash. http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/xbd_chap03.html#tag_03_266 I'm sure that Ted is well aware that multiple slashes are allowed by POSIX, it isn't however what he

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Nicolas P. M. Legrand
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 03:49:27PM +, Jona Joachim wrote: On 2010-11-24, Jan Stary h...@stare.cz wrote: On Nov 24 06:55:20, James Hozier wrote: I read online that the first programming language one learns could be crucial to the person's future programming skills and habits that

Re: HP Proliant NEO N36L

2010-11-24 Thread Joakim Aronius
* Stuart Henderson (s...@spacehopper.org) wrote: On 2010-11-23, Joakim Aronius joa...@aronius.com wrote: Hi, This looks like a nice, small and cheap server: HP ProLiant AMD Athlon II NEO N36L http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16859105905 However, there seem to be

Re: Can't build SOPE from ports.

2010-11-24 Thread Sebastian Reitenbach
Hi, I don't know for what you need sope, maybe for sogo? I just updated sope in cvs to 1.3.4, and imported www/sogo. However, the problem will probably persist with the new version, since in the configure script, nothing changed. And it works for me on i386, but I see you are on amd64, which I

Re: OpenBSD 4.8 kernel: protect fault trap, code=0

2010-11-24 Thread R0me0 ***
I applied the path 002 and 003 recompiled the kernel and same error I disabled the onboard lan, and I'm testing Regards 2010/11/23 Kenneth R Westerback kwesterb...@rogers.com You might try the vr(4) errata: http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/4.8/common/003_vr.patch or a -current

Re: Can't build SOPE from ports.

2010-11-24 Thread Hugo Osvaldo Barrera
On 24/11/10 16:00, Sebastian Reitenbach wrote: Hi, I don't know for what you need sope, maybe for sogo? I just updated sope in cvs to 1.3.4, and imported www/sogo. However, the problem will probably persist with the new version, since in the configure script, nothing changed. And it works

Re: Linux or OpenBSD

2010-11-24 Thread ropers
On 23 November 2010 13:52, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: I usually have a use case that can be satisfied with one XOR the other system So, not with both? You have weird use cases.

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 06:55:20AM -0800, James Hozier wrote: So, as a newbie with no knowledge in programming at all whatsoever and wanting to learn C, I bought KR's The C Programming Language (2nd edition) as per the suggestion on the OpenBSD website. I read the disclaimers in the intro of

[OT] Re: relayd port to linux

2010-11-24 Thread Toni Mueller
On Fri, 05.11.2010 at 16:54:00 +0100, Aleksandar Lazic al-open...@none.at wrote: due to the fact that openssh and some other parts of openbsd are ported to linux maybe you can tell me if you plan to make a openrelayd which is able to compile on linux. I'am willing to try it by my self,

Re: Linux or OpenBSD

2010-11-24 Thread Toni Mueller
On Wed, 24.11.2010 at 21:30:05 +0100, ropers rop...@gmail.com wrote: On 23 November 2010 13:52, Toni Mueller openbsd-m...@oeko.net wrote: I usually have a use case that can be satisfied with one XOR the other system So, not with both? You have weird use cases. I don't think so. See eg.

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Marco Peereboom
I'll call crap on c++ It doesn't really qualify as a language but more as a let me show you how smart i am tool for tools. Object orientation is interesting on the surface however the promises have never materialized. I'll reiterate my previous point. Learn C, if required you have most tools

Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread James Hozier
I have to learn ASM anyway (to learn about buffer overflows and other related topics in the family of memory-related security). Would there be any advantage to learning Assembly first or would that just be an unneccessary headache? From: Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us Subject: Re: Advice

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Re: Advice on learning C as first language

2010-11-24 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Hi, that one is quite funny and not too technical (as one you mentioned) book http://www.dummies.com/store/product/C-For-Dummies-2nd-Edition.productCd-0764 570684,navId-322467.html . But best jump to C and assembler (in my opinion) is that one http://nostarch.com/hacking2.htm . Good description

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